1: Wyldwood Keep -New Branch Name & New Device
Wyldwood Keep, Canton of
Per fess embattled Or and azure, three chevronels braced vert and a savage's head couped within a laurel wreath Or.
Consulting herald Andreas Meißner
Submitted through the Barony of Northkeep
<Wyldwood> is an English place-name.
The MED s.v. wīld(e (adj.) (http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=id&id=MED52749) gives place names using this element: Wyldhulle (1365), Wyldedyche (c. 1380), Wyldegrene (1402), Wyldehelle (1433).
The MED s.v. wọ̄de (n.(2)) (http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=byte&byte=247306017) has: Southewood (1450), Rostwode (1312), rastwode (1320-21), Halfewode (c. 1400), Summewode/
Sumerewode (1307), Quenewode (1478), Holtewodez (c.1400).
By precedent, <Keep> is registerable as both a standalone element and as part of a protheme in English place-names (June 2011 LoAR, A-Atenveldt, Cassandra Attewoode. Household name Summers Keep).
[Asterisk : Petition of support from the populace and officers has been received]
Submitted through the Barony of Northkeep
[Asterisk : blazon on form was : Or, three crests braced vert, embattled per fess azure with Or savage head couped]
[Asterisk : petition of support from officers and populace has been received.]
Branch Name Comments:
Maridonna Benvenuti at 2016-04-27 11:30:30
Docs check out. Click on 'show quotations' to see the place names from the documentation.
Alys Mackyntoich (Ogress) at 2016-04-28 15:53:07
The header in OSCAR should be <Wyldwood Keep, Canton of>
Alys Mackyntoich (Ogress) at 2016-05-09 18:56:29
The docs right now support <Wyldewode> -- we should find out how early the spelling -wood starts being used and get documentation for that.
<Wyldwood> here is structured like a compound place name, and follows the patterns were see in Juliana de Luna's "Compound Place Names in English" (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/EnglishCompoundPlacenames/).
Adelaide de Beaumont at 2016-05-11 12:59:35
However, the precedent in question specifically says, "This does not allow the registration of Keep as a deuterotheme (second element) in placenames; it remains unattested and will not be allowed without further evidence." As in Northkeep, which is likely the reason for the element here. The precedent further says, "As one pattern for compound placenames is the addition of a family name in the possessive form before an existing placename, Middle English Summers Kepe or Early Modern English Summers Keep can be justified as a plausible placename." Since we're already playing stunt construction with the Wyldwood portion, we may need to think of documenting Wyldwood as a surname in order to abide by the provisions of the precedent. (IGI batches getting hits for Wildwood are either OOP or a bad batch.) If we can support Wildwood, the i/y exchange is a no-brainer, but it would need to be Wildwoods Keep.
ffride wlffsdotter at 2016-05-13 04:46:28
I agree with you, Adelaide. I also haven't had much luck finding Wildwood as a surname either.
Tostig Logiosophia (Actuarius) at 2016-05-14 11:06:10
R&W states "Nicknames formed with a compound of wild- were common." and attests <William Wyldeblood> to 1366 (sn Wildblood, p492), but that's the only example I saw that didn't use something animate.
Maridonna Benvenuti at 2016-05-16 07:43:06
From the OED via my library, wildwood, n... A forest of natural growth, or allowed to grow naturally; an uncultivated or unfrequented wood. (In later use chiefly poet.)
a1568 in Bannatyne MS (Hunterian Club) 291/73 Ane heklit hud maid of the wyld wode sege.
a1616 Shakespeare Cymbeline (1623) iv. ii. 392 When With wild wood-leaues & weeds, I ha' strew'd his graue.
Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-05-23 13:50:54
Rohese found some people with surname Wildwood in period, but the Family Search batches were I batches and not useable. We think that the surname is plausible, and Wyldwood's (or Wyldwode's) Keep should be registerable. No conflicts found.
Aria Gemina Mala at 2016-04-29 05:37:46
I believe this loose, very open Laurel wreath which only comes halfway up the charge is not acceptable as per current policy, but I'm rubbish at precedent diving so can't find the ruling. Can someone else, please?
Tostig Logiosophia (Actuarius) at 2016-05-14 10:40:09
Can not locate a precedent, but the following is from the PicDic "In mundane armory, laurel wreaths were almost always drawn in an annular form (full circle), but we also find examples drawn in a penannular form (with a small opening to chief); Society armory typically uses the penannular form." http://mistholme.com/dictionary/wreath/
Sara Penrose (Sable Roundel) at 2016-04-30 20:20:17
I don't think we can just call these chevronels, because of the way they terminate before they reach the line of division. Can they be blazoned as "chevronels couped"?
Adelaide de Beaumont at 2016-05-11 12:11:28
No, because they terminate at the edges for the outer traits. The easiest fix is to extend the inner traits into the nocks in the battlements, as it should have been drawn.
Tostig Logiosophia (Actuarius) at 2016-05-14 11:41:10
Concur with redraw proposal by Adelaide, but it should require a second petition.
Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-05-23 13:54:54
Agree that the laurel wreath is not the right shape. The pieces are not even connected on the bottom, and there is too much room between the top parts. Also agree that the chevronels should reach the partition line at all points. We think this would be less awkward if the emabattled line were drswn with a shorter wavelength and about twice as great an amplitude, even if that necessitates shrinking the head and wreath a bit. No conflicts found.