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Atenveldt LoP dated 2019-06-30

ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS

1 July 2019, A.S. LIV

LETTER OF PRESENTATION

Unto Their Royal Majesties Franbald and Dionysia; Baron Seamus MacDade, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings of the New Year from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

Please have commentary to me on the proposed submissions for the July Letter of Intent by 20 July 2019.

1: Bethia de Lynddissay -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Culture (Scottish 1500s) most important.

Bethia is a feminine given name dated to 1599, in "A List of Feminine Personal Names Found in Scottish Records" by Talan Gwynek (heraldry.sca.org/names/scottishfem.html).

Lynddissay is a territorial name, said to be of Norman origin, from De Limesay, north of Rouen. While this precise spelling isn't listed, Black notes that there are nearly 200 variations of the spelling (The Surnames of Scotland, p. 430 s.n. Lindsay), and Lord Lindsay gives 84 spellings.


2: Elena Zharkova -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2018, via Atenveldt.

Per pale azure and vert, in fess a natural sea-tortoise and a plumeria flower argent.

The previous submission, Per chevron inverted azure and vert, a natural sea-tortoise and a plumeria flower argent., was returned by Laurel November 2018 "for violation of SENA A3D1, which requires that "Charges in an armorial design must be clearly organized into charge groups. Depictions of charges that blur the distinction between charge groups will not be allowed. Depictions of charges that that are ambiguous as to what sort of charge group they belong to will not be allowed." In this submission, the field division forces the tortoise and flower to be co-primaries, but the wide size disparity of the two charges makes it impossible to see them that way. The plumeria is approximately one-third the visual weight of the sea-tortoise and is pushed heavily to base due to its placement beneath the point of the chevron inverted."

The submission form uses the blazon Per bend azure and vert..., but the emblazon is clearly Per pale...

The plumeria is a native to the New World (a SFPP); the flower has five petals, each that slightly overlaps the one next to it. The defining example of the plant was provided for Ceara MacTagan's device, https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=1990 where an image and her documentation can be seen.

The tortoise en silhouette should be registerable. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2001/08/01-08cl.html, "From Wreath Queen of Arms: WHERE HAVE ALL THE DETAILS GONE?", which tells us "not all period heraldic art has internal details, and such silhouette depictions are acceptable in the SCA as long as identifiability is preserved."


3: Mineko of Twin Moons -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2011, via Atenveldt.

(Fieldless) A domestic cat sejant affronty sinister paw raised argent within and conjoined to a mascle checky sable and argent.

The previous submission, (Fieldless) A domestic cat sejant affronty sinister paw raised argent within and conjoined to a mascle gules., was returned by Laurel May 2015 "for presumption upon the protected symbol of the Red Crystal, a symbol protected by treaty for the use of the International Committee of the Red Cross: A gules mascle on any argent background or in any way that could be displayed on an argent background. The presence of the cat in the middle of the muscle does not prevent the presumption as, by international treaty, for indicative use on foreign territory, a national society which does not use one of the recognized symbols as its emblem has to incorporate its unique symbol into the Red Crystal."

The tincture of the mascle has been changed.


4: Mineko of Twin Moons -Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2011, via Atenveldt.

(Fieldless) A serpent with a head at both ends nowed in a Cavendish knot bendwise sinister argent.

The previous submission, (Fieldless) A serpent with a head at both ends nowed in a Cavendish knot argent., was returned by Laurel May 2015 "for presumption with the badge of the House of Savoy: (Tinctureless) A Savoy knot (Important non-SCA badge). There is a DC for tinctureless versus tinctured but, by long standing precedent, there is no DC between different types of knots nor between a snake nowed in a recognizable knot and the knot itself." It appears that the Savoy knot is identical to the Cavendish knot.

Giving the charge a different blazonable orientation should clear the issue.


Many thanks in advance for your time and consideration of these submissions.

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Parhelium Herald

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716

brickbat@nexiliscom.com

atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com


OSCAR counts 1 Name, 1 Device and 2 Badges. There are a total of 4 items submitted on this letter.