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Atenveldt LoP dated 2018-10-10


10 October 2018, A.S. LIII


Unto Their Royal Majesties Ivan and Ian'ka; Baron Seamus MacDade, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

Please have commentary to me on the proposed submissions for the October Letter of Intent by 30 October 2018. Thank you!

1: Hadda Modirfoeda Snorrisdottir -New Name & New Device

Purpure, in pale a roundel and and gout, a bordure argent semy of cats sejant purpure.

Language (None specified (ON likely)) most important.
Culture most important.

The name is Old Norse. Hadda is said to be a female form of Hadr; it is the giantess daughter of Scadi (Dictionary of Norman (sic) Mythology, 1993, www.Nordicnames.de/wiki). This link goes nowhere. The Viking Answer Lady demonstrates Haddr, Haddi originally as a by-name, "man with abundant hair," with a few instances are found in Norway, and the form Hadde is found in Denmark and Sweden. ( http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml#h). Hadde appears in Geirr Bassi. p. 10. It doesn't seem likely that a male given name could be feminized (as is often the case in languages of Latin origin) just by adding a terminal -a. Also bear in mind that unless documented as a name used by a human in period, the names of gods, giants, and other non-human beings cannot be registered in the College of Arms.

Modirfoeda is a nickname combining modir (mother) and foeda (from the Snorra Edda and Volisora (sic), "to feed, read, bring up"). The University of Texas Linguistics Research Center: "nicknames were very common in Old Norse." This is the extent of the documentation provided, aside from the Viking Answer Lady citation for Haddr. The correct form for mother is móðir, mōðir, môðir with the letter ð, not d (https://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/MOR). I can't even guess how one would compound two elements for the nickname.

Snorrisdottir, "the daughter of Snorri Bjornson" (I'm guessing this refers to Snorri Bjornsson, the name registered in November 2014. The correct form of the patronymic is -i > -a, so Snorradóttir, either with or without the diacritical, via Geirr Bassi, The Old Norse Name.

I have no idea what the "gout" is; period charges have a distinctive wavy tail (to the extent that our "modern" teardrop forms are no longer allowed). Can this be blazoned as another charge altogether?

For whatever reason, the submission will have to be redrawn; in addition to being drawn on a shield shape that isn't used by the College of Arms, it was pasted on an obsolete form as well (the old form has been disallowed since January 2017).

I've asked several heralds (via Facebook) if the "gout" on the device is an acceptable type of gout, and the consensus is that it is not.

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Parhelium Herald

c/o Linda Miku

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OSCAR counts 1 Name and 1 Device. There are a total of 2 items submitted on this letter.