OSCAR Kingdoms: Page for Atenveldt

[ ATENVELDT Home | Atenveldt Heraldry | Atenveldt Submissions ]

Atenveldt Heraldry
Atenveldt Submissions



Create Account

MAIL ME my password.


Include LoI Text:
Include Comments:

Atenveldt LoP dated 2018-06-29


29 June 2018, A.S. LIII

Unto Their Royal Majesties Ivan and Ian'ka; Baron Seamus MacDade, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

Please consider these submissions for inclusion in the July 2018 Atenveldt Letter of Intent.

1: Dawn Greenwall -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2014, via Atenveldt.

Per fess gyronny of 26 Or and gules, and vert masoned Or.

The client's previous device submission was returned by Laurel Janurary 2016, Per fess azure and vert masoned Or, a demi-sun issuant from the line of division Or., was returned for multiple conflicts: "It conflicts with the device of Shauna Branwen: Per saltire vert and sable, a demi-sun Or. There is only one DC for changing the field. It also conflicts with the badge of Kara the Twin of Kelton, Sable, the upper half of a mullet of four greater and twelve lesser points Or, the badge of Laurelen Darksbane, Per chevron azure and vert, a demi-compass star issuant from the line of division and the badge of Mathias Sicco von Hagen, Per fess sable and vert, issuant from the line of division a demi-compass-star Or. In these cases, there is a DC for changing the field but no DC for the difference between demi-sun and demi-compass star."

I have no idea whether this ought to be a gyronny of 13, as the whole gyronny of 26 is not seen; how this is best blazoned; or if a gyronny of 26 is permitted. The device of Fëamîr Bek (registered May 1996), Per fess sable and gyronny from the fess point argent and vert, a cross alisée fitchy Or. (similar to that seen here), has only four parts that would otherwise have a default number of eight. If that is the correct way of blazoning such a design, perhaps this is more accurate as Per fess gyronny of 26 from the fess point Or and gules, and a vert masoned Or.

2: Ermesinde de Champaigne -New Name & New Device

Argent, a chevron vert between two gillyflowers and a hummingbird rising purpure.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for 1400s France.
Language (French) most important.
Culture (1400s France) most important.

Ermesinde is a female given name, from OHG ermin, Osaxon irmin, "great, strong," + Osaxon swïth "strong" ("Ermesinde," S.L. Uckelman, ed. The Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources, Edition 2018, no. 1, http://dmnes.org/2018/1/name/Ermesinde); Ermesinde, Countess of Luxembourg, reigned between 1197 and 1247. She was the only child of Count Henry IV and his second wife, Agnes of Guelders.

Champagne, from Dictionnaire Étymologique des Noms de Lieux de la France by Albert Dauzat & Rostaing, p. 136, dates the use from 832. Bardsley p. 169 s.n. Champain has de Champain 1345 and de Chaumpaigne 1306, and R&W p. 90 s.n. Champain has de Champaigne 1195.

There is a SFPP for using a hummingbird, which is found only in the New World. This is unlike any gillyflower that I've seen (a search for gillyflowers online show carnations and other flowers having petals with "frayed" edges). Can anyone verify the charge as a variation of a gillyflower, or what the alternate name might be?

3: John Feathervane -New Name & New Device

Sable, two arrows enbowed and in saltire inverted, a bordure agent.

Sound most important.

The name is English. John is a fairly common male given name with a number of churches dedicated to the Baptist during the 12th-15th C. (Withycombe, erd edition, pp. 178-9).

Margerie Feather has a christening date of 13 Jul 1605 in Winterton, Lincoln, England (Batch C03381-1, https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWC2-ZVQ ). Vane is found for Rich Vane, a male with the christening date of 02 Nov 1590 at St. Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England (Batch C00629-1 , https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N55G-H48). The surname exists as two separate surnames, which is permitted in late English names.

Vane is also the flat part of a feather, consisting of two rows of barbs on either side of the shaft (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/vane), so that the byname is explicitly describing parts of a feather.

The client would like the name as a single word if possible (Feathervane); he is most interested in the sound of the name.

4: Rickard Hawthorne -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2005, via Atenveldt.

Argent, a gout de larmes cotised argent, six polypus legs, a bordure azure.

There are some issues with the submission. The client knows that the gout cannot be cotised, and he's willing to drop it.

If the badge has a bordure azure, it should extend to the edges of the field (and perhaps be drawn a little wider); as it stands now, it resembles a very thin orle.

The biggest issue is with the polypus legs. In an earlier incarnation of the badge, the legs were very large, each separated from the other (all of them still to the base of/below the gout), and each with (what I consider an asset to identification) a row of suckers. It the suckers were restored, and the arms separate, would this improve the design? Would it help, if the arms were attached to the base of the gout (and how would that be blazoned? (my guess is "issuant from a gout six polypus legs in base")?

5: Sundragon, Barony of -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 1984, via Atenveldt.

Gules, a dragon segreant contourny maintaining a hexagonal gemstone, a bordure indented argent.

A previous badge was registered to the Barony January 2006, Gules, a dragon contourny and a bordure indented argent. Geofrei and Jaqueline, Baron and Baroness of Sundragon, wish to modify this existing badge and register this new one.

This is said it is to be used for a new Order (Prisma Draconis), bur I received no paperwork for an Order name, so, just a badge at this time.

Continuing gratitude for your consideration of theses submissions!

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Parhelium Herald

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716



OSCAR counts 2 Names, 3 Devices and 2 Badges. There are a total of 7 items submitted on this letter.