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East ILoI dated 2018-12-30

Greetings unto the heralds of the East Kingdom and the Known World! We thank you for your commentary, and recommend the following items for your attention.

This letter includes submissions from Pennsic. Please note that the scanning has a bit of a grey background this year, and that is to be overlooked through all Pennsic submissions.

I would like to extend my sincere gratitude to all of the volunteer heraldic artists and the industrious coloring squad, without whom Pennsic submissions would not be possible.

It is not our intention to penalize any submitter for quality of artwork or coloring unless the emblazon has issues with recognizability or violates rule/precedent.

1: Accio Tempo di Firenze -New Name

Sound (Wants Tempo most of all) most important.

Accio is a masculine Italian given name found in the name of the late 15th century poet and translator, Accio Zucco da Sommacampagna (https://data.cerl.org/istc/ia00156500), who translated Æsop's Fables in 1497.

If this element cannot be registered, the submitter allows this element to be dropped. He does not prefer to change it to Accaio, found in Juliana's article cited below.

Tempo is a masculine given name found in Juliana de Luna's, "A Listing of all Men's Given Names from the Condado Section of the Florence Catasto of 1427" (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/condado/mensalpha.html).

Firenze is an Italian locative name found in "Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names" by Arval Benicoeur and Talan Gwynek. The use of the preposition di is noted as being "rarely found" in northern Italy per Appendix A. The phrase "di Firenze" is in the title of the 1584 book Le storie della citta di Firenze by Jacopo Nardi (https://books.google.com/books?id=IiY8AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA3).

Double given names are found in Italian per Appendix A.


2: Agatha Wanderer -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2011, via the East.

Purpure, a pair of braies fesswise argent.


3: Alke von Ossenheim -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2013, via the East.

Per pale argent and sable, two dragons combatant counterchanged, in chief a sheaf of arrows fesswise Or.


4: Asher de Kent -New Name & New Device

Argent, a hemp leaf vert, within a bordure denticulate azure.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Spelling (Asher) most important.

Asher appears as a male given name in "Jewish Naming Convention in Angevin England" by Eleazar ha-Levi. The article refers specifically to c.1070 - 1290. (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/jewish.html). It is found as a Jewish name widely throughout Europe.

The name reappears in late period England in Family Search <Asher Wilton> Christening Date 14 Jun 1590; Christening Place FLEET,LINCOLN,ENGLAND; BATCH C02833-2; (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JW4N-HJT .

The locative byname <de Kent> is dated to 1379 in that spelling in Bardsley, s.n. Kent. "Index of Names in the 1292 Subsidy Roll of London: Surnames" by Sara L. Uckelman http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/surlondon1292.html

Hemp leaves are valid heraldic charges, and have been registered recently:

Jaku'an Kakujo
The following device associated with this name was registered in July of 2017 (via Atenveldt): Azure, on a hexagon within a hexagon voided argent a hemp leaf vert.

The following badge associated with this name was registered in April of 2015 (via Atenveldt): Sable, a hemp leaf within an annulet argent.


5: Aurelia Victoria -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Culture (Roman) most important.

Aurelia is a feminine given name found in "A Simple Guide to Imperial Roman Names" by Ursula Georges (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/roman.html) as the feminine form of the nomen Aurelius.

Victoria is the expected feminine form of the cognomen Victorius, which is found in L.R. Dean, A study of the cognomina of soldiers in the Roman legions" (http://books.google.com/books?id=MF0KAAAAIAAJ).

Feminization of nomina and cognomina and the pattern of feminine nomen + feminine cognomen are discussed in Ursula's article.


6: Conchobar mac Amhlaoibh -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 1994, via the East.

Per chevron argent and vert, two dragonflies vert and a mermaid proper tailed Or maintaining a carpenter's hammer bendwise sinister Or.

The proper color for a mermaid is Caucasian, and Caucasian skin is pink or white, according to the Glossary of Terms. http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html#proper


7: Drasma Dragomira -New Name & New Device

Per saltire wavy azure and argent, four nesselblatts counterchanged and a bordure sable.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language (North Slavic (Polabian)) most important.
Culture (North Slavic (Polabian)) most important.

The submitter would like a Polabian (early Slavic) name from what is now Germany if possible.

Drasma This is a feminine Slavic given name dated to 864 in what is now Germany in Schlimpert, Gerhard; Slawische Personennamen In Mittelalterlichen Quellen Zur Deutschen Geschichte (p. 44), sn Drazma. The entry reads F 864 Drasma (serva; Gurk/Karnien/Osterreich).

Dragomir This is found as both a feminine and masculine given name in our period. 1) Dragomir appears as a tenth-century feminine name in what is now Germany in Schlimpert, Gerhard; Slawische Personennamen In Mittelalterlichen Quellen Zur Deutschen Geschichte (p. 44), sn Dragomir(a). The citation reads: Ende 10. Jh. (?) Wratizlau...ducens uxorem nomine Dragomir, ex provincia Selavorum paganorum, que Ztodor dicitur (leading a wife named Dragomir from a province of Slavic pagans called Ztodur) 2) Some form of this name was used as a masculine name in our period.

Niavis, Pavlos; The Reign of the Byzantine Emperor Nicephorus I (802-811), p. 317 states, "in September 812, the Khan (krum of the Bulgars) sent Dragomer, an ambassador with a Slavic name..."

Patronymic form in -a -: Academy of St. Gabriel report 1600 (http://www.s-gabriel.org/1600) discusses names for a woman from 11th century Moravia (near the submitter's location), and suggests, "Our best guess from the limited information we do have is that there are three endings that are added to the name of the father to make it a byname for a woman...Thus, you would need to add a to the name of your father to create a patronymic byname from it." "We suspect that Dragomira...would be a reasonable byname for you."

The submitter prefers a vernacular rather than Latinized form.


8: Drasma Dragomira -New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) A nesselblatt azure within and conjoined to an annulet sable.


9: Eleanor de Astlye -New Name & New Device

Azure, a greyhound passant guardant argent, in base a branch of hazel Or.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Spelling (spelling of given name) most important.

Eleanor is a feminine given name found in Talan Gwynek, "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyAG.html), dated to 1361.

de Astlye is a byname found in Reaney and Wilson, s.n. Astley, dated to 1300.


10: Eleanor de Astlye -New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Vert, three bees Or, in chief a hazel branch fesswise argent.


11: Faolán an Sccreccain -New Badge

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Faol?n an Sccreccain in November of 2015, via the East.

(Fieldless) A sheaf of three quills Or


12: Fionnghuala na Traga -New Name & New Device

Azure, a bat-winged tower and in chief a compass star pierced Or.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Meaning (Wants Gaelic name, fix grammar as necessary) most important.

Fionnghuala is a feminine given name found in Mari's Annals (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Fionnghuala.shtml) as a woman's given name dating in the 13th -16th centuries.

na Traga is a descriptive byname found in Mari's Annals (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/DescriptiveBynames/naTraga.shtml) meaning "of the strand", it is listed as a man's byname in 1315. We think it would not change if applied to a women's name and ask for help on that. Similar names for women are noted in Saint Gabriel #1581.


13: Gunnvor hausakljúfr -New Household Name & New Badge

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Gunnvor hausaklj?fr in January of 2011, via the East.

Velkenstaðr

(Fieldless) In a stone archway Or, a door azure

Language (sound close to (not specified)) most important.
Culture (sound close to (not specified)) most important.

This is inteneded as a Scandinavian household name. We ask for help with contruction.

"Norske Gaardnavne" ("Norwegian Farm Names") by O. Rygh (http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/navnegransking/rygh_ng/rygh_visetekst.prl?s=n&Vise=Vise&KRYSS182913%40 40916=on) has the following: vol.11, p.486, no. 103.

Velken a Vællkini c. 1300 Vilckenn 1603. 1614. They would prefer a name close to the header form, but will accept a construction with <Vællkin>

The designator -staðr ("stead") is the Old Norse form (from the 3/14 LoAR, Acceptances, Trimaris Roerekr á Úlfhamre

We know that it will need to be changed to match the substantive element temporally and ask for assistance.

As shown in the documentation for the Shire of Runviðarstaðr branch name (accepted April 2015 via Middle), both the singular -stađr and plural -staðir are found in period, but the latter is more common in farm names.


14: Gunnvor hausakljúfr -New Badge

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Gunnvor hausaklj?fr in January of 2011, via the East.

(Fieldless) Two axes in saltire gules, the head of each charged with a plate

The original device was returned on the 04/17 LoAR:

Gunnvor hausakljúfr. Badge for Raina Hausakljufr. (Fieldless) Two axes in saltire gules each blade charged with a plate.

This must be returned for conflict with Uðr bloðøx: Argent, in saltire two axes embrued gules. There is one DC for the field and nothing for the gouttes. Commentary was mixed, but leaned heavily towards the tertiary charges being too small to count for difference.

When resubmitting, we recommend that the submitter draw the axe heads wider, to give more room for the plates. This will help with recognizability.

We feel that this design addresses those issues.


15: Hildibrandr loðinkinni -New Name & New Device

Per bend vert and sable, a beaver rampant vorant of a fish Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Language (Old Norse, prefers western part) most important.
Culture (Old Norse, prefers western part) most important.

Hildibrandr is a masculine given name found on pg 11 of Geirr Bassi (but not Landnamabok).

loðinkinni is a descriptive byname meaning "shaggy cheeked" found on pg 25 of Geirr Bassi

Given + byname pattern listed for Old Norse in SENA Appendix A.


16: Ívarr Valsson -New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Meaning (son of ValR) most important.

Ívarr is a masculine name found 5 or fewer times in "Viking Names found in Landnamabok by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html

Valsson is a patronymic byname based on <ValR> a masculine given name found in Nordiskt runnamnslexikon, p.104, s.n. ValR meaning "falcon".

Spelling based on rule for names ending in -r, per "A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html


17: Kelsey Macpharlane -New Name & New Device

Azure, a calamarie and on a chief argent a thistle proper

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound (not specified) most important.

Kelsey is an English surname being used as a given name per LoAR of Sept 2012. Reaney and Wilson s.n. Kelsey dates Robert Kelsey to 1394. FamilySearch Historical Records gives a christening for Thomas <Kelsey>, in HAXEY,LINCOLN,ENGLAND, 20 Dec 1600, batch C02908-3 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWHL-Z4Y

Macpharlane is a byname found in Black s.n. Macfarlan "Malcolm Mcpharlane was one of the witnesses to a charter by Ywar Cambell of Strachur to Duncan, earl of Leuenax c. 1385." We expanded the scribal abbreviation Mc to Mac.


18: Mahistî bint Kâmrû Khâmûsh -New Name & New Device

Per bend Or and gules, a feather bendwise gules and a winged ounce rampant Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language (Persian) most important.
Culture (Persian) most important.

Mahisti is a given name found in Persian Feminine Names from the Safavid Period, by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) & Ursula Georges (Ursula Whitcher) https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/persian.html

bint Kâmrû is an ism formed from a Masculine given name found in Medieval Names from Inscriptions at Siraf, Iran, by Ursula Georges http://yarntheory.net/ursulageorges/names/siraf/names.html

Khâmûsh is a descriptive byname meaning "The Silent" found in Persian Masculine Names in the Nafah.ât al-uns, Bynames https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/nafahat/bynames.html


19: Maisie Shairpe -New Name & New Badge

Or, two ducks rousant respectant purpure and in chief a sprig of rosemary vert

Language (Scottish) most important.
Culture (Scottish) most important.

Maisie is an English byname being used a given name per LoAR of Sept 2012. Is is dated to 1646 in 'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 20 May 1646', in _Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646_ (London, 1802), pp. 551-552. British History Online (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol4/pp551-552). It is also found as a surname in Scots in 'Extracts from the Records: 1567, July-December', in Extracts From the Records of the Burgh of Edinburgh, 1557-1571, ed. J D Marwick (Edinburgh, 1875), pp. 233-245. British History Online (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/edinburgh-burgh-records/1557-71/pp233-245), dated to 1567.

The submitter prefers the spelling <Maesie> if it can be documented. If a form of Maisie cannot be registered, the submitter will accept Maighread, found in Sharon Krossa, "Scottish Gaelic Given Names for Women: Names of Scottish Gaels from Scottish Gaelic Sources", citing Morgan, s.n. Mairead (http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/gaelicgiven/women/margaret.shtml).

Shairpe is a Scots byname found in the Records of the Parliaments of Scotland to 1707, dated to 1633 (http://www.rps.ac.uk/mss/1633/6/89).


20: Marcus mac Pharláin -New Household Name & New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2004, via the East.

Clan MacPharlain of Loch Lomond

Gules, a saltire between four compass stars argent, a bordure gyronny vert and Or

Spelling (prefers Pharlain) most important.

Sharon L. Krossa, " A Brief, Incomplete, and Rather Stopgap Article about European Household and Other Group Names Before 1600: Scotland - Clans (in Scots)" http://medievalscotland.org/names/eurohouseholds/scotlandclansinscots.shtml states that one pattern for Scots versions of Gaelic clan names is phonetic or semi-phonetic rendering into Scots of a Gaelic form of the clan name of/in placename. This article also shows the use of a clan head's name in Mak- in a Scots clan name.

MacPharlain is a constructed variant spelling of a Scots or English name derived from Gaelic mac Parthaláin or mac Pharlain. Black, Surnames of Scotland, s.n. Macfarlan lists multiple spellings of this name in our period, including Malcolm Mcpharlane c. 1385, MacPharheline 1610, Mac Ferlen in 1603, and Makferlan in 1529. Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada, 16th & 17th Century Anglicized Irish Surnames from Woulfe http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/Woulfe/ lists many other renderings of Gaelic names into English in our period, including M'Pharlane from Gaelic Mac Partaláin, O'Diamain from Gaelic O'Diamáin, M'Folaine from Gaelic Mac Fhualain, and O Coain from Gaelic O'Comhdhain. Thus, we believe MacPharlain is a plausible Scots or Anglicized form of this name.

Loch Lomond is a locative from The Dictionary of the Older Scots Tongue s.v. towar http://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/towar dates this place name in the form Lochlomond to 1494. The submitter would prefer the modern spelling Loch Lomond and asks for assistance in documenting this form. The clan seat of the historical Clan MacFarlane is Arroschar, so this location should not pose a presumption problem.


21: Margarita de Siena -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2009, via Æthelmearc.

(Fieldless) A Maltese cross gules, overall a daisy argent seeded gules


22: Pagan Graeme -New Household Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 1999, via the East.

House of the Heart and Oake

No major changes.
Meaning (the heart and the oak) most important.

We are constructing the household name as an English sign name, as documented in "English Sign Names" by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (Kathleen M. O'Brien). (medievalscotland.org/kmo/inn/) 'Heart' and 'Oak' are both heraldic charges.

heart is found in the OED (http://www.oed.com.proxy.lib.umich.edu/view/Entry/85068?rskey=9IIMIH&result=1#eid) s.n. 'Heart'. This spelling is documented to about 1616. The reference in the online OED is "1616 Shakespeare Coriolanus (1623) i. i. 134 I send it through the Riuers of your blood Euen to the Court, the Heart."

oake is found in the OED (http://www.oed.com.proxy.lib.umich.edu/view/Entry/129461?redirectedFrom=Oak#eid) s.n. 'Oak' This spelling is dated to 1596 and 1616. The full references are: "1577 B. Googe tr. C. Heresbach Foure Bks. Husbandry ii. f. 101 The fyrst place of right belongeth to the Oke [1596 Oake]." "1616 Shakespeare Merry Wives of Windsor (1623) iv. iv. 41 Marry this is our deuise, That Falstaffe at that Oake shall meete with vs."

To be associated with the badge registered to the submitter in April of 2018 (via the East): (Fieldless) On an oak leaf per pale purpure and vert a seeblatt argent.


23: Rhode Kephalaina -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2013, via the East.

(Fieldless) A calamarie per pale vert and purpure.


24: Samugaya Kitsutarou Makoto -New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Language (1450-1550 Japanese, military class) most important.
Culture (1450-1550 Japanese, military class) most important.

The is intended to be a Male Sengoku Period (1450-1550) Buke (Military Class) name in the structure & family name; common name;

Samugaya is a constructed family name; both elements are attested to the 16th c. Samu- (cold) 1572 NCMJ Rev. Ed. p. 158 -ga-ya (valley) 1568 NCMJ Rev. Ed. p. 147 (this is marked as "ya," but attested in this form in the 1568 Kuma-gaya).

Kitsutarou Constructed birth order common name Kitsu- (Tachibana uji affiliation) NCMJ Rev. Ed. p. 37, this is undated beyond before 1600. -tarou (#1 son) NCMJ Rev. Ed. p. 211, dated to before 1600

Makoto is an attested nanori : NCMJ Rev. Ed. p. 340; its dating is uncertain but before 1600.

We were unable to reach online Japanese resources during the consultation.

Currently, (cold valley) is read as Kantani in Japan http://myoujijiten.web.fc2.com/kensaku2.html However, kanji pairs in closely located place names can be read rather differently in modern Japan. For example, (new rice paddy) is read as "shinden" in Western Tokyo and as "niita" in Southwestern Tokyo. While the reading selected from several possible readings by the client can not currently be attested, it still appears to be plausible.


25: Sarah le Payller -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2013, via the East.

Argent, on a pale azure, a pail argent


26: sekh Neswennefer -New Alternate Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2018, via the East.

Nychoas Revell

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Spelling (Prefers any variation of Nicholas spelled with (unspecified)) most important.

Nychoas is a masculine given name based on Nichoas, found in FamilySearch under <Nichoas> Colbrooke, Christening date: 10 Sep 1581, AMBERLEY, SUSSEX, ENGLAND, batch C07002-1 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3FX-8H7

Revell is a byname dated 1541, 1576, 1582 in "Dictionary of Tudor London Names" by Sara L. Uckelman, s.n. Revell www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/tudorlondon.pdf

Interchanging i and y is well-documented for English names.


27: sekh Neswennefer -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2018, via the East.

(Fieldless) On a sun Or, an ankh sable


28: Shamir ibn Antuni -New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Language (Middle Eastern) most important.
Culture (Middle Eastern) most important.

Originally requested: Shamshir bin Antuni. Client would prefer Shamshir as a given name if it can be documented.

Shamir is a given name found in Juliana de Luna "Andalusian Names: Arabs in Spain" (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/andalusia/).

Antuni is the Arabic form of the name of a man who translated a book from Greek to Arabic; this version of the book was copied in 1456. This information is found on p. 315 of Francisco del Río Sánchez, Arabic manuscripts in the Maronite Library of Aleppo (Syria) ( https://books.google.com/books?id=i91fDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA315&lpg=PA315&dq=antuni#v=onepage&q=antuni&f=fal se )


29: Simon Talbot -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2016, via the East.

Azure, on a talbot rampant Or a mullet azure.


30: Simon Talbot -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2016, via the East.

Or, on a mullet azure a unicorn lodged argent


31: Svana Mársdóttir -New Name & New Device

Argent on a pale vert between two bears sable combattant addorsed a plate.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Meaning (daughter of Már) most important.

Svana is an Old Norse feminine given name found in GB, p.15. It is found in the Landnamabok.

Mársdóttir is the expected patronymic formed from the masculine given name Már, found in GB, p.13. It is found in the Landnamabok.

The formation of the patronym is found on pp. 17-8 of GB.


32: Tomislaus iz Kieva -New Name & New Device

Gules, in pale a longship conjoined to a man statant affronty, arms upraised, Or

No major changes.
Meaning (Byname means from Kiev) most important.

Tomislaus is a male given name dated 1198, in Paul Goldschmidt's Dictionary of Period Russian Names - Section T-U (https://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/t-u.html).

iz Kieva is a byname documented in Wickenden, pg xxvii (print edition) as an example of a properly constructed Type I Toponym byname meaning "of Kiev".

Submitter prefers the preposition form of the byname, but will accept the noun form if necessary for registration.


33: Úlfarr austmannaskelfir -New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.

Úlfarr is a masculine name on p. 15 of Geirr Bassi's The Old Norse Name with 5 instances cited from the Landnamabok.

austmannaskelfir is a descriptive byname that appears on p. 19 of GB with one occurrence in the Landnamabok with the meaning 'terror of the east-men'

The construction is based on the rules for nickname bynames on pp. 18 - 19 of The Old Norse Name and Appendix A of SENA.


34: Ulfrun Connors Dotter -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2018, via the East.

Per pale wavy sable and argent, a pale wavy azure between a griffon and a wolf combatant counterchanged

Previous device, Per pale wavy sable and argent, a griffon and a wolf combatant counterchanged, returned for conflict in kingdom in Nov 2017.

Notes:​ This device is returned for conflict with the device of Fiadnat ní Chonchobair [Atlantia, Jan 1992 LoAR]: Per pale wavy sable and argent, a doe and a wolf salient respectant counterchanged. There is a DC for change of type of half of the primary charge group, but nothing else. There is no DC for change of posture between salient and rampant.


35: Willow Benoit -New Name & New Device

Argent, a weeping willow tree per pale gules and vert growing from a mound sable.

Submitter has no desire as to gender.
No major changes.
Spelling (Willow) most important.

Willow is a late period English byname used as given name, found in FamilySearch. Robert <Willow> married 1545, Saint Crux, York, York, England, batch M01101-1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJD9-PN5).

Benoit is a French byname dated 1363, 1404, 1438, 15th C Picardy in "Bynames in Medieval France" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael, s.n. Benoit (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/frenchbynames.pdf).

The combination of English and French is acceptable under Appendix C of SENA.


Yours in Service,

Muirenn Blue Tyger


OSCAR counts 17 Names, 1 Alternate Name, 3 Household Names, 13 Devices and 14 Badges. There are a total of 48 items submitted on this letter.