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East ILoI dated 2016-07-02

Greetings unto the heralds of the East Kingdom and the Known World!

This letter includes most of the submissions received between 5/30/2016 and 03/28/2016.

Commentary on this letter will close on July 31, 2016.

1: Adrienne d'Evreus -Resub Device

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Adrienne d'Evreus in December of 2014, via the East.

Azure, a fleur-de-lys argent and a bordure gules.

Consulting Heralds: Nicolas de Wyntere and Alexandre Saint Pierre

The submitter's previous device, Per fess wavy azure and argent, a seahorse counterchanged, was returned on the Sept. 6, 2014 East Kingdom Letter of Decision, due to conflict with the badge of the Order of the Hippocampus in the Kingdom of Atlantia (02/2000): (Fieldless) A seahorse erect argent tailed azure. This resubmission is a complete redesign.

The submitter provided documentation in support of an Individually Attested Pattern of red bordures on blue fields in French heraldry. Many of the examples also contain fleurs-de-lys as charges

Four examples of are found in the Armorial le Breton, which contains armory from the 13th through 15th centuries:

Azure, three fleurs-de-lys Or, a bordure gules (http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/archim/0008/dafanch06_a103502n00009_2.htm)
Azure, semy-de-lys Or, a bordure gules (http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/archim/0008/dafanch06_a103502n00015_2.htm)
Azure fretty argent, a bordure gules (http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/archim/0008/dafanch06_a103502n00042_2.htm)
Azure, a tower Or, a bordure gules(http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/archim/0008/dafanch06_a103502n00042_2.htm)

A single example from c. 1452 is found (multiple times) in Recueil historique et héraldique (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/Stars/1452_FRANCAIS_5930.htm).

Azure, three fleurs-de-lys Or and a bordure gules (http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/Visualiseur?Destination=Daguerre&O=23012063)

Three examples are found in the Armorial de Gilles Le Bouvier (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/Stars/15th_c._Armorial_de_Gilles_Le_Bouvier_MSS_FRANCAIS_4985.htm), all from the 15th century.

Azure, three fleurs-de-lys argent and a bordure gules (http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/Visualiseur?Destination=Daguerre&O=8005982)
Azure, six plates and a chief Or, all within a bordure gules (http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/Visualiseur?Destination=Daguerre&O=8006011)
Azure, on a fess azure fimbriated gules three mullets of six points and in base a saltire couped all, all within a bordure gules (http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/Visualiseur?Destination=Daguerre&O=7904826)

Finally, one repeated example is found in Armorial et traité d'héraldique dated c. 1475 (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/Stars/1475-1475_FRANCAIS_24381.htm).

Azure, three fleurs-de-lys Or and a bordure gules (http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/Visualiseur?Destination=Daguerre&O=22041762)
See also Azure, three fleurs-de-lys Or and a bordure gules semy of plates appearing on the same page

The submitter also provided two examples of a single high-contract fleur-de-lys as a charge from the Armorial le Breton:

Or, a fleur-de-lys gules (http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/archim/0008/dafanch06_a103502n00014_2.htm)
Gules, a fleur-de-lys Or and a chief argent (http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/archim/0008/dafanch06_a103502n00036_2.htm)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/images/cImages/449/2016-06-03/17-36-26_Adrienne_IAP1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/images/cImages/449/2016-06-03/17-36-28_Adrienne_IAP2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/images/cImages/449/2016-06-03/17-36-29_Adrienne_IAP3.jpg


2: Alexandre Saint Pierre -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 1996, via the East.

(Fieldless) In salitre a key Or and a quill pen argent

Consulting Herald: Nicolas de Wyntere


3: Cailleach Dhé ingen Chiaráin -New Name & New Device

Per pale argent and sable, two cats sejant respectant counterchanged and on a chief azure three triquetras argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound (sounds like 'Kileigh') most important.
Language (15th century) most important.
Culture (15th century) most important.

Consulting Herald: Violet Hughes

Cailleach Dhé is a compound female given name found in Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada's "Index of Names in Irish Annals" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/CailleachDhe.shtml) dated to 1211.

ingen Chiaráin is a pre-1200 Gaelic patronymic, based on the genitive form of the male given name Ciaráin, which is also found in Mari's "Index" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Ciaran.shtml) with a latest Annals date of 1061. Because Gaelic grammar requires C to lenite after ingen, the spelling of the father's name has been changed to Chiaráin.


4: Ceinwen ferch Llewelyn ab Owain -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2000, via Æthelmearc.

Azure, in pale three fleurs-de-lys argent

Consulting herald: Marie de Blois


5: Ciar of Skye -New Name & New Device

Or, a fox salient proper and a gore sable

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Spelling (as submitted) most important.

Consulting Herald: Alys Mackyntoich

Ciar is a female saint's name found in OCM p. 51 s.n. Ciar. Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada's "Index of Names in Irish Annals" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Ciar.shtml) dates this name to the late 7th century.

of Skye is the Lingua Anglica form of a place known in period. Johnston, Place Names of Scotland p. 268 s.n. Skye gives the spelling <Scia> dated to c. 700. Johnston is a no-photocopy source, but it is also available on line at: https://books.google.com/books?id=QfEKZEKzWbwC


6: Elaria Grenway -New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Gules, a mortar and pestle and on a chief embattled argent three clusters of three holly leaves in pall inverted vert fructed gules

Consulting Herald: Cassandra Hobbes

The submitter's name appears on the June 2016 East Kingdom ILoI.


7: Elizabet Marshall -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2002, via the East.

(Fieldless) On an acorn Or a capital letter E azure

Consulting Herald: Marie de Blois

The letter 'E' is in an Uncial hand from the Vespasian Psalter, an 8th century manuscript (http://medievalwriting.50megs.com/scripts/examples/uncial2.htm). Image below.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/images/cImages/449/2016-07-01/07-07-56_Elizabet_Doc1.jpg


8: Hermina de Pagan -New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the East LoI of August 31, 2015 as submitted.

Gules, a skeletal hand sustaining three roses in sheaf argent

Consulting Herald: Violet Hughes

Correction to Device (2016-Jul-02 13:07:23): This is a resubmission of a return on the November 2015 LoAR, which stated:

This device is returned for using so-called "garden rosebuds". Per repeated precedent:

This device is returned for the use of a garden rosebud, which has not been registerable since November 1994:

Commentary was nearly as strong in favor of banning garden rosebuds from armory. Consequently, we will accept whatever garden rosebuds may be in LoIs issued before December 1994, but no further registrations of this charge will be made. (CL 11/94)

A garden rosebud is a garden rose with the petals closed, which describes the charge in chief. [ Diane Daunt, March 2009, R-West ]

All roses should be depicted affronty, with their petals fully laid out on the page, instead of cupped like a tulip.

Correction to Device (2016-Jul-02 13:07:04): This is a resubmission of a return on the November 2015 LoAR, which stated:

This device is returned for using so-called "garden rosebuds". Per repeated precedent:

This device is returned for the use of a garden rosebud, which has not been registerable since November 1994:

Commentary was nearly as strong in favor of banning garden rosebuds from armory. Consequently, we will accept whatever garden rosebuds may be in LoIs issued before December 1994, but no further registrations of this charge will be made. (CL 11/94)

A garden rosebud is a garden rose with the petals closed, which describes the charge in chief. [ Diane Daunt, March 2009, R-West ]

All roses should be depicted affronty, with their petals fully laid out on the page, instead of cupped like a tulip.

Correction to Device (2016-Jul-02 13:07:33): This is a resubmission of a return on the November 2015 LoAR, which stated:

This device is returned for using so-called "garden rosebuds". Per repeated precedent:

This device is returned for the use of a garden rosebud, which has not been registerable since November 1994:

Commentary was nearly as strong in favor of banning garden rosebuds from armory. Consequently, we will accept whatever garden rosebuds may be in LoIs issued before December 1994, but no further registrations of this charge will be made. (CL 11/94)

A garden rosebud is a garden rose with the petals closed, which describes the charge in chief. [ Diane Daunt, March 2009, R-West ]

All roses should be depicted affronty, with their petals fully laid out on the page, instead of cupped like a tulip.


9: Jenna Childersley -Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2011, via the East.

Per pale vert and purpure, a cherub within eight arrows in annulo points to center argent

Consulting Herald: Violet Hughes

The original submission of this badge was returned in the February 2016 LOD citing:​

This badge is returned for having charges in an unblazonable arrangement. "Pierced" requires that the piercing charge start on the field, transfixing the pierced charge, and re­emerge onto the field. Here, the arrow is entirely on the primary charge, as a tertiary charge would be, but is in two parts. Perhaps a vertical transfixing arrow would work, though contrast would need to be considered.

The submitter did not provide a black and white outline copy, as required.

Correction to Badge (2016-Jul-02 15:07:57): B&W version has been received and posted in the comments.


10: Ketilfastr Thorkilson -New Name & New Device

Per bend sinister argent and vert, a griffin sergeant counterchanged

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (unspecified) most important.

Consulting Herald: Katerinka Lvovicha

Ketilfastr is a masculine given name combining Ketil- and -fastr.

Ketil is found in Geirr Bassi p. 12 s.n. Ketilbjorn

fastr is found in Cleasby and Vigusson p. 145, s.v. fastr, ketill

Thorkilsson is a patronymic byname of Thorkil found in Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 2316 (http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/2316.txt)


11: Lillia de Vaux -New Household Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2006, via the East.

Bleu Crampette Inn

No major changes.
Language (Middle or Early Modern English, 14th-16th C) most important.
Culture (Middle or Early Modern English, 14th-16th C) most important.

Bleu is a Middle English form of "blue", with this spelling found in the MED, s.v. bleu: ?a1500 Henslow Recipes (Henslow) 4/4: To make bleu water. Take clene floreye [etc.]. The spelling blewe (also found in the MED between the 14th and 15th centuries and in the inn-sign name article below) is also acceptable to the submitter as well.

Crampette is the chape of the scabbard of the sword, occasionally used as a heraldic charge (OED, s.v. crampet): 1489 Wardr. Acc. In Fairholt (1885) II. 136, ij crampettes for the king's sword. 1515 Will of R. West (Somerset Ho.), My best goblet with a cover with Crampettes upon the knopp. Crampets are a heraldic charge also found in the online PicDic (http://mistholme.com/s=crampet), born for example, by Lord de la Warr, c. 1520

Inne ("inn") and the pattern of [substantive element (usually a place name)] + Inne also found in the MED, s.v. In: (1437-8) Reg.Chanc.Oxf.in OHS 93 26: Iohannes Austell..conuictus est..super pertubacione pacis per depositionem Willelm Alwkye de Peckewater Inne, Symonis mancipii de Bekis Inne.

The inn-sign name pattern [object]+[color] is found in "Comparison of Inn/Shop/House names found Lond 1473-1600 with those found in the ten shires surrounding Lond in 1636" by Margaret Makafee (http://contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~grm/signs-1485-1636.html). Examples include Blew(e) garlande, Red harrow and Golden ancore, all dated 1485-1600.


12: Magdalena von Kirschberg -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2005, via the East.

Per pale azure and gules, on a chevron Or three springs of two cherries gules slipped and leaved vert

Consulting Herald: Anastasia da Monte

The submitter's original device Per pale azure and gules, two chevronels Or, was returned for conflict with Henri Guiscard (March 2005, Lochac): Quarterly gules and sable, two chevronels Or, with just one DC for changes to the field.

This re-submission changes the number of chevrons and adds tertiary charges to clear the conflict.


13: Millicent Rowan -New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the East LoI of March 31, 2016 as submitted.

Argent, five gouttes de sang and a trimount vert

Consulting Herald: Andreas von Meißen


14: Sanceline de Bassan -New Name & New Device

Per saltire azure and argent, a saltire indented between two silk moths Or and two mulberry trees azure

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound (unspecified) most important.
Language (unspecified) most important.
Culture (unspecified) most important.

Consulting Herald: Andreas Lucernensis

Sanceline is a female given name found in "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" by Colm Dubh (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paris.html#S).

de Bassan appears in a Latin charter from the King of Hungary dated to 1352, reproduced in the Codex diplomaticus Hungariae ecclesiasticus ac civilis, Volume 22 at p. 199 (https://books.google.com/books?id=N2BSAAAAcAAJ).

The submitter provided an article concerning the history of silk worms and moths.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/images/cImages/449/2016-07-01/09-17-04_Sanceline_Doc1.jpg

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/images/cImages/449/2016-07-01/09-19-40_Moth_Doc1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/images/cImages/449/2016-07-01/09-19-42_Moth_Doc2.jpg


15: Þórin Úlfrson -New Name & New Device

Azure, a dragon and a stallion combatant argent

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Meaning (Thorin Wolf's Son) most important.

Consulting Herald: Þórý Veðardóttir

Þórin - Fellows-Jensen, Scandinavian Personal Names in Lincolnshire and Yorkshire cites a Grunekell f. Thorin. This shows Thorin as a Latinized Norse name 1066-69. [Thorin Ó Séaghdha vörðr, 2/2008 LoAR, A-Caid].

Úlfr is a male given name found in Geirr Bassi's The Old Norse Name at p. 15.

The patronym is not correctly formed a submitted. The 'r' in Úlfr should drop and there should be two 's' not one: Úlfsson. Fortunately, the submitter allows all changes so we can correct this error.


16: Þórin Úlfrson -New Alternate Name & New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Lucas Merrick

Argent, on a pile sable, a Maltese cross argent, a bordure sable and overall a label gules

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Meaning (unspecified) most important.

Consulting Herald: Esperanza Razzolini and Þórý Veðardóttir

Lucas was documented by the submitter using the Legal Name Allowance, but no proof of the submitter's legal name was provided. Go forth, commenters, and document!

Merrick is a 16th century English surname:

Grigory Merrick; Male; Burial; 07 Sep 1588; St. Martin, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England; B05876-8 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDQ7-TZ6)
Davy Merrick; Male; Marriage; 15 Jan 1561; Saint Peter Westcheap, London, London, England; Batch: M02275-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKGR-MQG)

We are told that the submitter's grandfather, Aaron of the Black Mountains, has given permission to conflict with his device, Argent, on a pile sable a Maltese cross argent, a bordure counterchanged, registered in March of 1994 via An Tir. A letter of permission to conflict is supposed to be forthcoming.


17: Úlfeiðr Artadóttir -New Name & New Device

Sable, two ravens close respectant and in base a wolf couchant argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for unspecified.
Language (unspecified) most important.
Culture (unspecified) most important.

Consulting Herald: Conall an Doire

Úlfeiðr is a female given name found in Geir Bassi, p.15.

Artadóttir is a patronymic byname found in Nordiskt runnamnslexikon (Dictionary of Names from Old Norse Runic Inscriptions) by Lena Peterson s.n. Arta


18: Vika Grigina z Prahy -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 1997, via the East.

(Fieldless) An estoile per pale azure and Or

Consulting Herald: Marie de Blois


19: Vika Grigina z Prahy -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 1997, via the East.

(Fieldless) On an estoile azure a bee Or

Consulting Herald: Marie de Blois


In Service,

Yehuda ben Moshe

Blue Tyger Herald


OSCAR counts 6 Names, 1 Alternate Name, 1 Household Name, 12 Devices and 6 Badges. There are a total of 26 items submitted on this letter.