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Avacal LoI dated 2017-05-16
Greetings from the Avacal College of Heralds.
This month we have three submissions for your commentary.
Commentary for this letter will be closed on Saturday, 17 June 2017.
The Avacal College of Heralds will meet on Monday, 19 June 2017 at 7:30 pm.
1: Alric the Indecisive -New Name & New Device
Vert, two arrows in saltire points to chief, and on a chief embattled Or, an awl point to dexter proper.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound (Alric) most important.
Culture (Anglo-Saxon) most important.
Meaning (Indecisive) most important.
Submitter is from Myrgan Wood
Consulting Herald is Aldric the Indecisive
Alric - found on Saint Gabriel, as taken from Bede's "A History of the English Church and People". http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/aelfwyn/bede.html
the Indecisive - descriptive byname, as found for King Alfred the Great and King Æthelred the Unready. In English as per the tradition of Lingua Anglica.
2: Myrgan Wood, Barony of -Resub Appeal of Kingdom Return of Badge
OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 1983, via the Middle.
(Fieldless) An elm tree eradicated proper, leaved gules.
The badge was returned on May 16, 2016 Kingdom of Avacal, College of Herald's Decision Letter which stated:
1. Myrgan Wood, Barony of - New Badge, (Fieldless) An elm tree eradicated proper leaved gules.
Conflict with Walraven van Nijmegen "(Fieldless) A créquier gules. Unable to obtain Permission to Conflict (PtC) letter from Walraven.
Note: this was pended from the April 17 2016 letter in order to give the submitter time to obtain a PtC.
Supporting documentation that there is a CD between a creuier and an elm tree:
January 1996 LOAR from the Kingdom of the West stated: Brian of the West. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Or, a créuier gules.
The créuier is sufficiently different from any other kind of tree to be considered a different charge, and its stylization is more than consistent enough for it to be unlikely to be mistaken for any other kind of tree. (Not to mention the fact that we regularly give a CD between radically different types of trees; for example, fir trees and oak trees.) All things considered, I have no problem granting at least a CD for a créuier versus any other tree.
Submitted as Walraven Van Nijmege.
This was stated again on the May 2003 LOAR from the Kingdom of Atlantia: Karl von Lindenheim. Device. Argent, a linden tree eradicated proper within a bordure purpure.
Conflict with O'Connor Don (important non-SCA arms), Argent, a tree eradicated vert. There is one CD for adding the bordure. The SCA has consistently not given difference for the tincture change between a tree vert and a tree proper (vert with a brown trunk). There is no type difference between a linden tree and a default round-shaped tree, as a linden tree has roughly the same shape as an oak tree, which is the model for the default heraldic tree.
One commenter asked if the charge in this device should have been blazoned as a crequier. The charge drawn in this submission is a linden tree, not a crequier. The SCA considers trees and crequiers to be distinct charges, and worth difference from each other:
The créquier is sufficiently different from any other kind of tree to be considered a different charge, and its stylization is more than consistent enough for it to be unlikely to be mistaken for any other kind of tree. (Not to mention the fact that we regularly give a CD between radically different types of trees; for example, fir trees and oak trees.) All things considered, I have no problem granting at least a CD for a créquier versus any other tree. (LoAR January 1996).
In this submission, the linden tree is drawn so that the leaves are only at the ends of each twig (one leaf per twig end, multiple twigs per tree branch). This is not an uncommon way of drawing an early period heraldic tree. The charge's proportions clearly show that it is a tree, not a crequier. The branches and leaves are at the top of the charge, the thick trunk is all that shows in the center of the charge, and the substantial root structure is at the bottom of the charge.
A crequier is also drawn with linden leaves, but the resemblance to a tree generally ends there. The classic crequier is as depicted on plate XXIX of Woodward's A Treatise on Heraldry British and Foreign, in the heraldic atlas at http://www.heraldica.org/topics/glossary/pics/380.jpg, and as found in the 14th C Armorials Bellenville and Gelre. It has a distinct, candelabra-like form: it has a thin center stem and a small number of horizontal or slightly rising branches, distributed evenly throughout the charge. Each branch proceeds, without any further branching into twigs, to end in one single, very large, linden leaf.
Note that there do exist some more tree-like depictions of a crequier, as shown on p. 344 of Woodward's A Treatise on Heraldry British and Foreign, but even those depictions have the branches issuing throughout the majority of the height of the charge. It is not clear whether the charge on p. 344 of Woodward, which has multiple twigs per branch, would be blazoned by the SCA as a crequier, or as a tree, due to the SCA's need to preserve the distinction between different charge types.
Below is a picture from the Mistholme pages of a crequier. http://mistholme.com/?s=crequier
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Avacal College of Heralds
OSCAR counts 1 Name, 1 Device and 1 Badge. There are a total of 3 items submitted on this letter.