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Outlands LoP dated 2016-12-25

Unto the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 25th day of December, A.S. LI (2016 CE), does Lord Gauvain Eisenbein send greetings on behalf of Master Angus Reid MacFarlane, White Stag Principal Herald.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands' Letter of Presentation for December, 2016.

Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by January 17th, 2016, for the decision meeting on January 18th, 2016. As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.

There were several pended items this month. Submissions heralds are strongly urged to review the guidelines at: "http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/#castle_instructions", as items not meeting these guidelines will be pended. Pended items will be administratively returned after they have appeared on three Letters of Presentation.

1: Adriana Lopas de Rodas -Resub Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Azure, a bend sinister Or between a rampant wolf and two stars argent

The previous submission, Azure, a bend Or between three mullets, two and one, and a wolf rampant argent, was returned on the March 2016 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2016-02-lop/1603-lor.html) with the following: {Returned for a conflict with Scrope (12/1994 via Laurel): Azure, a bend Or. Important non-SCA arms. There is one DC for the addition of the secondaries. Emblazon: http://oscar.sca.org/emblazons/Outlands/2016-02/adriana-c.jpg}

Consulting herald: Geua filia Guy

Branch: Fontaine dans Sable

Correction to Device (2016-Dec-28 11:12:40): Adriana Lopes de Rodas

2: Basseva bat Salaman -Resub Household Name

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

House Hamsa

No changes.

"HAMSA" can be spelled many ways in Arabic, the following are several of them: Chamsa, Hamsa, Hamza, Khamsa, and more.

HAMSA (as Hamza): start at http://www.s-gabriel/org/names THEN go to

Muslim Names from 1455 Istanbul, by Ursula Georges

-or -


NOTE: The Muslim Names from 1455 Istanbul, by Ursula Georges, is found within Saint Gabriel's as indicated, and when the Muslim Names . . . is selected you will be sent to: http://yarntheory.net/ursulageorges/name/muslimNamesIstanbul.html

"House" - http://heraldry.sca.org/names/resources/householddesig.html

Patterns Using the Word "House" - http://medievalscotland.org/names/eurohouseholds/englandhouseholds.shtml

The previous submission, Handi Camp, was returned on the July 2015 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/07/15-07lar.html#Outlands_returns46) with the following: {This household name is returned for being obtrusively modern. Although both the byname Handi and the term Camp are found separately in our period, the combination deliberately sounds like the post-period word handicap:

The combination of bynames Spede Bumpus is obtrusively modern:

The fact that this is a "joke name" is not, in and of itself, a problem. The College has registered a number of names, perfectly period in formation, that embodied humor: Drew Steele, Miles Long, and John of Somme Whyre spring to mind as examples. They may elicit chuckles (or groans) from the listener, but no more. Intrusively modern names grab the listener by the scruff of the neck and haul him, will he or nill he, back into the 20th Century. A name that, by its very presence, destroys any medieval ambience is not a name we should register. (Porsche Audi, August, 1992, pg. 28)

In the same way "speed bump" is a modern reference that dragged most commenters back into the 21st century. Therefore, it cannot be registered. [Samuel Spede Bumpus, March 2012, P-East]

The noun handicap dates to the 1650s, with a meaning related to gambling. The use of handicapped to refer to those with disabilities dates no earlier than the 19th century. Therefore, this household name cannot be registered.

Upon resubmission, we'd like evidence that Byname + Camp is used as a permanent label for a group of people as opposed to a description of a place where someone is camping at the moment, and documentation to show that an unmodified form of the byname is plausible in such a pattern rather than a possessive form.

In addition to the obtrusive modernity, commenters and those present at the Pelican decision meeting noted the possible offensive nature of the term "handicap." If a resubmission continues to make this reference, the possible offensive nature of the term as well as the idea of granting use of such a term to a private individual in an official sense, should be addressed.}

Consulting herald: Selene of the Sky

Branch: Dragonsspine

Correction to Household Name (2016-Dec-28 11:12:57): Basseva bat Salamon

3: Gormr Ragnvaldsson -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2016, via the Outlands.

Per bend dovetailed gules and Or, a bearded axe bendwise and a wolf's head couped counterchanged

The previous submission, Or, a dragon couchant contourny in annulo breathing flames within a crescent gules, a bordure embattled sable, was returned on the June 2016 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2016/06/16-06lar.html#282) with the following: {This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." As depicted the dragon is not identifiable, which is in large part due to its posture and the fact that the wings are so close to the body that they disappear.}

Consulting herald: Idunn Hallsdottr

Branch: Nahrun Kabirun

4: Mikos Kovacs -New Name & New Device

none given

Sound (Magyar) most important.
Language (Magyar) most important.
Culture (Magyar) most important.
Meaning (Magyar) most important.

Miklos: common Hungarian form of Nicholas, originating with the Christian St Nicholas



Kovacs: occupational byname from Hungary meaning Smith


Consulting herald: none given

Branch: Caerthe

5: Yamamoto Cristóbal -New Name & New Device

Per pale sable and Or, three triangles one and two conjoined and a bordure counterchanged

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (Late 16th C Spanish (given) and Japanese (family)) most important.
Language (Late 16th C Spanish (given) and Japanese (family)) most important.
Culture (Late 16th C Spanish (given) and Japanese (family)) most important.

Cristóbal, Given name from 16th Century Spanish Names by Elsbeth Anne Roth, http://heraldry.sca.org

Yamamoto, Family name found in An Online Japanese Miscellany; Japanese Names by Anthony J. Bryant, http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/names.html, 9October2016

Name is found on the chart "Some surnames of families active prior to 1600" near the beginning of the web page.

The combination of a Spanish given name and Japanese family name is documented in the following document (highlights by submitter), published in Reggio in 1585. We acknowledge that this is a limited case however there are four separate individuals named in the document, all with the same name pattern. Submitter is choosing a late 16th century Japanese persona so this pattern is feasible.

"Record of the Tensho Mission to Europe" is a 9 page brochure documenting the visit of four boys to the Pope (actually Popes as Gregory XIII dies during their visit). The complete brochure is owned by the Tokyo National Museum and is available, in its entirety, at http://www.emuseum.jp/detail/100816/000/000?mode=detail&d_lang=en&s_lang=en&class=&title=&c_e=®io n=&era=¢ury=&cptype=&owner=&pos=857&num=4

Below is an excerpt from the synopsis:

"This is a brochure on the mission of boys, who were sent to the Pope by Christian feudal lords in Kyushu, namely, Otomo Yoshishige (Sorin) of Bungo and Arima Harunobu and Omura Sumitada of Hizen on the advice of Valignano, a Jesuit missionary. The purpose of Valignano was to introduce new Christians in the East to the Pope and have the delegates see and experience at first hand the reality and majesty of the Christian world and thereby promote missionary activities in Japan by Japanese people."

The mission of four Japanese boys, namely, Ito Mancio, Chijiwa Miguel, Nakaura Julio and Hara Martino, left Nagasaki and arrived at Rome in February 1585 where they had an audience with Pope Gregorius XIII."

Submitter will allow swapping of given and family names for purposes of registration.

Consulting herald: Llywus ap Alan

Branch: Bryngolau

Thus ends the December Letter of Presentation. The following submissions are pended until the listed problem is addressed:

Ealusaid of Ardrenk (household name) - provide documentation notes and submit text copy of same

Hródgierr Sorthjerte (name and device) - provide text copy of documentation notes

Rhowyn Miranda Magee (name and device) - provide text copy of documentation notes and line drawing copy of device form

Sæunn Hrafndottir (name and device) - provide text copy of documentation notes and line drawing copy of device form

Syla Marston (name and device) - text copy of documentation notes not provided; recolor device with Crayola markers

The following submission is administratively returned:

Bohemond le Sinistre (device) - Pennsic Point failed to provide a copy of device artwork (the emblazon on the submitted forms was blank). Multiple attempts at getting a copy of the device artwork from Pennsic and the local submissions herald have failed.

In Service,

Gauvain Eisenbein

Outlands Castle Herald

OSCAR counts 2 Names, 1 Household Name and 4 Devices. There are a total of 7 items submitted on this letter.