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Trimaris ILoI dated 2016-08-31

This is the August Internal Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of Trimaris.

Currently uploaded are the Pennsic Submissions, but expect more to be added the first week of September as I'd like to get submissions from the commentary meeting at Fall Coronation uploaded as soon as possible.

It's been a rough month, my grandmother passed in July and we had her Funeral two weeks ago. We also found out that our returns herald had not been attending their email inbox for 7 months, so there are quite a few submitters I still need to catch up with.

I'd like to thank you all for being understanding and I promise things will be back to normal soon. If you, my fellow heralds, or any of your submitters feel like you've been lost in the shuffle please feel free to e-mail me at Lymphad@trimaris.org and we will make sure to get you caught up to date!

Yours in Service,

~Lord Ephrem Orbeli

Letter Comments:

Milesenda de Bourges (Triskele) at 2016-09-21 18:56:42
Trimaris Commentary Group, 9-21. Comprised of: Ephrem Orbelli, Ilene Johnnestoune, Izabel "Iz", Ciaran O'Muirgan, David Archer, Milesenda de Bourges.

Isabel Margarita de Sotomayor y Perez de Gerena (Ensign) at 2016-09-21 19:15:30
o.O Isabel! "Is" sheesh ;)

Milesenda de Bourges (Triskele) at 2016-09-21 19:15:54
Yah yah crazy Spanish lady ;)

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:31:15
Comments under my name on this letter represent the consensus of the NE Calontir commenting group, consisting this month of Lord Caoimhin McKee, Rouge Sanglier Herald Extraordinary, Lady Rohese de Dinan, Shadowdale Pursuivant, and myself. Sorry to hear of the loss of your grandmother. Had a recent death in my family and I understand how disruptive that can be even when you don't count the grief. Hope you're soon recovered from that and the administrative issue you mentioned.

1: Alexandra MacDuff -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.

Alexandra is a female given name found in the Family Search Historical Records: Alexandra Barrey Gender Female Christening Date 03 Aug 1561 Christening Place GREAT HORMEAD, HERTFORD, ENGLAND Batch: P01206-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NB8C-YM9) MacDuff - M'Duff is found dated to 1626 in Black s.n. MacDuff. M' expands to Mac for registration.

Name Comments:

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-03 08:51:00
No conflicts found

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:31:39
Name docs check out. No conflicts found.

Renée du bois d'Ambre (Boar) at 2016-09-28 16:38:23
Under <McDuff>: "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1MG-98J : 8 December 2014), Christan Mcduff, 30 Apr 1650; citing KINFAUNS,PERTH,SCOTLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,040,334.

"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQWQ-VN1 : 2 January 2015), Elison Mcduff, 29 Oct 1581; citing PERTH,PERTH,SCOTLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,040,383.

"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQW7-DQ9 : 2 January 2015), Johne Mcduff, 23 Feb 1580; citing PERTH,PERTH,SCOTLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,040,383.


2: Castlemere, Barony of -New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) A tower vert charged with a triskele argent, sustained by two panthers combatant argent spotted vert.

Badge Comments:

Seraphina Delphino (Golden Dolphin) at 2016-09-03 23:15:58
The Castlemere, Barony of was registered as a barony of in December 2015 and as a shire in November 1982.

Mayken van der Alst (Jack) at 2016-09-20 06:25:49
The standard group petition forms used do not include space for a date. They are attached to a dated submission form. We have added the meeting minutes of the group indicating the date of signing.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:33:48
Panthers are guardant by default according to the Glossary of Terms. These panthers are facing each other. Not absolutely sure how best to blazon that. The spots should also be on the legs as well, as panthers are spotted all over. Panthers have "flames" issuing from both their mouths and their ears. No conflicts found. The emblazons would benefit by bolder black lines.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2016-09-28 12:23:13
Praise be, the Glossary has been superseded. "From Wreath: Panthers" at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2006/11/06-11cl.html declares

Henceforth, all heraldic panthers are not-guardant (i.e., facing to dexter or sinister, as appropriate) by default. If the panther is guardant, it must be explicitly blazoned. The body posture has no default, and must be specified.
So the blazon is correct as is.


3: Elena of Grimsby -New Name & New Device

Azure, a lion's head cabossed between three sunflowers Or.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for English.

Elena is a female given name found s.n. Ellen in "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyAG.html) dated to 1187, 1204. Grimsby is found in Watts s.n. Grimsby dated in this spelling from 1328. of is the standard place name marker in English per Appendix A.

Name Comments:

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-03 08:57:20
No conflicts found.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:34:35
Given name doc checks out. Don't have Watts to confirm the surname doc, and Mills' entry gives no dated citation for this spelling. (R&W have nothing.) No conflicts found

Renée du bois d'Ambre (Boar) at 2016-09-28 17:13:32
For <Grimsby> I also find Agnes Grimsby, with a death date of Feb 1577 "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8Y4-SMG : 24 December 2014), Agnes Grimsby, ; citing St. Mary, Barton-Upon-Humber, Lincoln, England, reference bk 1; FHL microfilm 1,450,438.

Device Comments:

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-21 13:33:41
No conflicts found

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:34:50
No conflicts found. It was suggested that the detailing of the head should be somewhat bolder.


4: Gunnólfr járnhauss -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in April of 2010, via Trimaris.

Per chevron inverted azure and sable, a chevron inverted between a viking sword inverted and a winged skull argent.

Device Comments:

Coblaith Muimnech at 2016-09-05 04:22:26
It's a sword. There's nothing about it that seems uniquely suited to viking as opposed to, say, crusading or assassinating or standing guard. Blazon is supposed to be as simple as possible. If a word isn't telling you something you need to know about the emblazon, it's not necessary.

Also, I couldn't find any instances of "viking sword" in the O&A, so this would probably be the defining instance. . .which would mean you'd have to clearly define the term and offer evidence of it as a charge that was or would've been (1) used in and (2) distinct as a period charge.

Mayken van der Alst (Jack) at 2016-09-16 15:09:26
Maybe the submitter used 'viking sword' to indicate the pommel shape and missing hilt of a standard sword? Frankly, this looks like a "gladius" to me: http://mistholme.com/dictionary/sword-gladius/

I'd adjust the blazon to "Per chevron inverted azure and sable, a chevron inverted between a gladius inverted and a winged skull argent"

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2016-09-20 15:11:10
While not citable for proof, it's helpful to consult the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_sword#Morphology, which shows that the emblazon's hilt does not match the Carolingian-style sword popularly called Viking.

Which makes "gladius" even more appropriate.

See more detail in my reply below.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2016-09-20 15:22:40
I believe that Coblaith Muimnech is raising the bar too high in one respect. http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A2B2a states that "There is a pattern of creating new charges from European tools and other everyday artifacts. Thus, an item that can be documented as this sort of period artifact is registerable." It is thus not required that the artifact have been used as a heraldic charge in period.

Nevertheless, the new charge should indeed be definable and distinguishable from other charges already in use. A Viking/Carolingian sword with the hilt type shown at the beginning of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_sword and with period examples in the Morphology section, involving a heavy pommel, a very narrow grip, and a thick cross-guard would perhaps qualify. But that is not what this emblazon shows.

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-21 13:42:15
Although not going to help from a conflict point of view, we have registered logical differences in swords (rapiers, great swords, etc). The most recent one I remember is iden ap Grindall (http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=55407) where the submitter drew the sword as a great sword. Request was made from submitter that it be blazon (if possible) as such because he was knighted for the might of his great sword.

However, in all different registered sword types, it would be that the sword could be easily reproduced with a heraldic artist. The only question I would have is how much different is this sword from a normally drawn one? A great sword has a longer handle, a rapier hilt is much different.

Finally, for the purposes of conflict check... a sword is a sword... a rapier is a sword...

Milesenda de Bourges (Triskele) at 2016-09-21 18:47:26
Trimaris Commentary Session 9-21: Notes to change blazon to sword instead of viking sword. Submitter may draw the specific hilt as he wishes as an artistic element.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:37:40
"Viking" Consider Valadonis the Wanderer, reg. 8/80 via Ansteorra: "Per chevron inverted azure and sable, a chevronel inverted between in pale an eagle displayed, head to sinister, and a compass star pierced argent." There's one DC for the type of the secondary charges., but we don't see anything else. Our current standard practice is to use the diminutives of ordinaries only when there are more than one. We have nothing to add to the discussion of the blazon of the sword.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2016-09-28 09:48:25
Wondering: If the sword were proper and the wings Or, would that be enough to count as changing the tincture of half the charge group?


5: Hannah bat Isaac de Toledo -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2000, via Trimaris.

(Fieldless) a compass rose per pale argent and purpure.

This submission is to be associated with Hannah bat Isaac de Toledo

Badge Comments:

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-06 09:49:26
No conflicts found

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:38:08
"A" should be capitalized. No conflicts found.


6: Karl von Stuttgart -New Name & New Device

Or, a horse rampant and on a chief sable a lion passant Or.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.

<Karl>: masculine German name dated to 1495 in "German Names from 1495" by Sara L. Uckelman (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/german1495.html) <von> German preposition meaning 'from' . <Stuttgart> is documented in Jacob Gretser, Elias Hasenmüller, and Cleophas Distelmeyer, Histori des Jesuitischen Ordens (http://books.google.com/books?id=rEY8AAAAcAAJ), published 1595. The locative is found on p. 367: <zu Stuttgart> ('at/to Stuttgart').

Name Comments:

Coblaith Muimnech at 2016-09-05 04:25:41
You don't need to back "von [place name]" for German; it's listed in SENA Appendix A as needing no further documentation (http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixAGerman).

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:38:41
Docs check out. No conflicts found.

Device Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:39:00
No conflicts found.

Renée du bois d'Ambre (Boar) at 2016-09-28 17:45:17
Nice period lion. The horse could be langed as well.


7: Killian Bryce -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 1997, via Trimaris.

Vert, an estoile between flaunches argent.

Badge Comments:

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-21 13:50:21
No conflicts found.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:39:32
No conflicts found. Nice and clean and easy to emblazon.


8: Magdalena Kleindienst -New Name & New Device

Or, a crescent, in chief two roundels sable

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for German Language Group.

Magdalena - Found at Family Search "Deutschland Tote und Beerdigungen, 1582-1958," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4M7-8JJ : 28 November 2014), Magdalena Dach, ; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 1,056,717. "Deutschland Tote und Beerdigungen, 1582-1958," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWB9-SM7 : 28 November 2014), Magdalena Olbers, ; citing 266-4, reference 266-4; FHL microfilm 1,184,996. "Deutschland Tote und Beerdigungen, 1582-1958," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7Q3-94D : 28 November 2014), Magdalena Mergethaler, 06 Feb 1587; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 1,056,972. Kleindienst - found in Bahlow/Gentry p 270 under header [Kleindienst] dated to 1325

Name Comments:

ffride wlffsdotter at 2016-08-31 17:30:53
Bringing the name elements closer together (I think some of the dates in the familysearch.org references fell off along the way -- not to worry!)

<Magdalena Kuper> female, married 1625, Deutz (Cöln), Rheinland, Preußen, Germany. Batch no. M96975-1
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4D2-C8M
<Anna Kleindienst> female, married 1622, Deutz (Cöln), Rheinland, Preußen, Germany. Batch no. M96975-1
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4D2-8M5

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-03 09:11:14
No conflicts found

Milesenda de Bourges (Triskele) at 2016-09-21 18:55:29
Trimaris commentary group: 9-21 - recommends using above altered blazon.

Renée du bois d'Ambre (Boar) at 2016-09-28 17:48:27
I believe this was meant as a device comment.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:40:11
Docs check out. No conflicts found.

Device Comments:

ffride wlffsdotter at 2016-08-31 03:21:15
Comment moved to the 'Name' submission section -- nothing to see here!

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-08-31 12:38:07
iffride I believe you meant this as a name comment.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2016-08-31 17:30:08
I believe I did too -- thank-you for alerting me!

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-08-31 12:38:39
The roundels and the crescent appear to be co-primaries due to the size. Does anyone else see that?

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-03 08:31:47
If we believe the roundels to be co-primaries... then the blazon should reflect that:

Or, two roundels and a crescent sable.

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-03 08:47:29
Or maybe a better blazon:

Or, two pellets and a crescent sable. No conflicts found.

Coblaith Muimnech at 2016-09-05 04:26:51
That's what I see.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:41:18
We agree with Arwyn that the three charges are coprimary, and with her blazons, and believe their relative sizes are correct for their positions on the escutcheon. No conflicts found.


9: Malik ibn Sahl al Tabib -New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Malik - a masculine ism in PERIOD ARABIC NAMES AND NAMING PRACTICES by Da'ud ibn Auda (David B. Appleton)? 2003http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm ibn Sahl - a generational nasab from a masculine name also found in PERIOD ARABIC NAMES AND NAMING PRACTICES by Da'ud ibn Auda (David B. Appleton) ? 2003http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm al Tabib - "Tabib" translates to "physician" per _List of Occupations in Arabic_ Construction [ism + one generation nasab + occupational nisba] from PERIOD ARABIC NAMES AND NAMING PRACTICES by Da'ud ibn Auda (David B. Appleton) ? 2003http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm Juliana will provide photocopy of book page

Name Comments:

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2016-09-06 20:02:54
Tabib is not in Da'ud's article; nor is there a list of specifically occupational bynames. I would think that should be al-Talib.

Lacking Juliana's documentation, allow me to post a page from the Encyclopedia of Islam, showing the name Ṭabīb. Note that, curiously, it is not al-Ṭabīb. Dropping the macron and the dot is allowed by SENA.

1: Image 1

Milesenda de Bourges (Triskele) at 2016-09-21 18:58:59
Trimaris Commentary group: Recommends hyphenation as in above documentation and rationale. Submitter allows for minor changes.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:42:05
Can't find "al Tabib" The docs for the rest of the name elements check out. No conflicts found.


10: Morgan O Cuinn -New Device Change

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Argent vêtu vert, a dolphin haurient sable

Old Item: , to be released.

Old device registered March 2014. Changing from Argent vêtu gules, a dolphin haurient sable.

Device Comments:

Calpurnia Fortunata (Seacat) at 2016-09-21 19:04:34
Submitter's name is Morgan O Cuinn -- submitter's name was inaccurate on the form; registered via Laurel as O Quine in August of 2014; corrected December of 2015. This information is in the Armorial.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:43:24
Consider Amber Lang, reg. 3/94 via Atlantia: "Vert, on a lozenge argent, a cat sejant guardant sable." "Vert, on a lozenge throughout a dolphin haurient sable" (which is another blazon for the submitter's emblazon) has only the DC for type of tertiary charge from Amber's device.


11: Oddbjorn Mjolksiglandi -New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Culture (Norse) most important.
Meaning (Bearspear, Well-traveled) most important.

Oddbiǫrn: Combined name of "Odd" meaning roughly translated as point, spear point, arrow point, or weapon point and Bjorn, translated as Bear.

http://www.irminsul.org/arc/012ht.html#b

http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html

© 1998-2003 Sara L. Friedemann; all rights reserved

© renewed 2005-2006, 2009, 2012 Sara L. Uckelman; last updated 20Jan12

Mjǫksiglandi: much-sailing, far-travelling

http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html The Old Norse Name,

by Geirr Bassi Haraldsson (a.k.a. G. Fleck)

Name Comments:

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-03 09:13:17
No conflicts found

Coblaith Muimnech at 2016-09-05 04:49:39
A documentation summary should tell us what each source says about the name that is relevant to registration: the forms it documents, the dates it gives, and where that information came from.

The first source given for "Oddbiǫrn" is a list of "Icelandic and Heathen names" on an Asatru site. No dated forms are given and no sources are cited in the article.

The second source is Aryanhwy merch Catmael's Viking Names found in Landnámabók. "Oddbiǫrn" is listed there as the normalized form of a masculine name found once in an Icelandic manuscript from the second half of the 13th century.

The first source given for "Mjolksiglandi" is Aryanhwy's companion article, Viking Bynames found in Landnámabók. The form given there is "mjǫksiglandi", which is also normalized and from the same source. The introductory text explains that this byname should follow the given name it accompanies and that the lack of capitalization, ". . .was usual in Norse naming." Pelican has ruled that capitalized forms of Old Norse bynames can be registered (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/04/12-04cl.html), but I'm not sure whether that means you can capitalize any byname you find, or just that you can use any you find already capitalized in a source (though I suspect the former).

I don't have Geirr Bassi, so I can't comment as to whether he offers a form of "mjǫksiglandi" with the extra "L" seen in the submission.

Haakon Bjornsson (Gold Axe) at 2016-09-05 08:57:07
It oes not. It only provides mjoksiglandi

Milesenda de Bourges (Triskele) at 2016-09-21 19:14:55
Trimaris Commentary group provides summary as such:

First name - Oddbiǫrn. Combined name of "Odd" meaning roughly translated as point, spear point, arrow point, or weapon point and Bjorn, translated as Bear. Listed as having been found once, "Viking Names Found in the Landnamabok" By Aryanhwy merch Catmael http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html

Last name - Mjǫksiglandi: much-sailing, far-travelling Listed as having been found three times in "Viking Bynames Found in the Landnamabok" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:50:16
Don't see support for changing the "I" in the documentation to "j". We imagine it's OK, but support needs to be provided. We also noted that typo in the surname. No conflicts found.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2016-09-28 10:31:36
If this were English, I wouldn't insist on seeing "As i/y switches are ubiquitous in English ..." in the documentation because similar phrases are, um, ubiquitous in the LoARs

I'm also not disposed to insist on submitter justifying the variation here. In the first place, it is a commonplace in histories of the alphabet to note that I and J are the same letter for most of our period.*

Moreover, in http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/06/13-06lar.html we read "Björn is found as a given name in 1416 Sweden (SMP [Sveriges Medeltida Personnamn] s.n. Biorn)", and http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml#Bjorn tells us the name is "Found ... in OW.Norse as Biorn or Bjorn" while she lists several other variations. Since I have not seen the College making dialect distinctions for Norse names, perhaps we can consider the preceding evidence to suffice?
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* It surprises me that it was an Italian in very late period, 1524, who "was the first to explicitly distinguish I and J as representing separate sounds" according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J#History, given that neither modern Italian nor Latin makes a distinction!


12: Persephone Maniglia -New Name & New Device

Argent, a wolf sejant ululant and in chief a tree couped and blasted between two mullets sable.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.

Persephone is the name of a Greek goddess. In January 2009, Persephone was ruled to follow the 12th and 13th century English pattern of creating "fanciful Greek and Latin origin names." [Persephone Hume of Paislie, 1/2009 LoAR, A-Middle]. This ruling was the basis for the registration of Persephone again in February 2013. [Persephone Odymsy, 2/2013 LoAR, A-Calontir]. Recent data has confirmed the usage of Greek goddess names by English women in period, including the following entries from the IGI/Family Search records: Phoebe Defraine 20 Jul 1574 Toddington, Bedford, England, batch P00391-1 Dione Bowdon 20 Oct 1576 Horsington, Lincoln, England, batch C02943-3 Clymene Pinder 19 Jan 1622 South Creake, Norfolk, England, batch C04142-1 Selene Neale 04 Aug 1583 Bideford, Devon, England, batch C05032-1 Maia Newberye 08 Dec 1616 Aldermaston, Berkshire, England, batch C15515-1 Thalia Smith 25 Mar 1609 Pillerton Priors, Warwick, England, batch C04376-2 Maniglia is the submitters legal surname, as seen on her Florida Drivers License, seen by Yehuda Blue Tyger and Beatrice Domenici della Campana.

Name Comments:

ffride wlffsdotter at 2016-08-31 03:39:52
There is an awesome article, called
NAMES FROM THE FAMILY SEARCH HISTORICAL RECORDS: NAMES FROM CLASSICAL HISTORY AND MYTHOLOGY by Alissa Pyrich (http://heraldry.sca.org/kwhss/2014/Alys_Mackyntoich/Names_from_Classical_History_and_Mythology.pdf),

which might be helpful.

Do we need to show that people in England spelled the name as Persephone, though?
If so, OED sv. †exˈciteful quotes:
"To..Stern Pluto and Persephone, apply Exciteful prayers." ca. 1615, written by George Chapman (?1560-1634).

Arwyn of Leicester at 2016-09-03 09:15:08
No conflicts found.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:51:20
Looks OK with ffride's support for the given name spelling. No conflicts found.

Device Comments:

Milesenda de Bourges (Triskele) at 2016-09-21 19:18:34
Is the device slot machine?

Renée du bois d'Ambre (Boar) at 2016-09-28 18:54:16
Not slot machine, for reasons given in http://heraldry.sca.org/armory/lessons/lesson02.html

The charge group here is 1 between 2 in chief, so not slot machine..

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2016-09-26 13:51:41
No conflicts found



OSCAR counts 7 Names, 5 Devices, 1 Device Change and 3 Badges. There are a total of 16 items submitted on this letter.