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An Tir KLOI from Central/Summits dated 2018-11-01

Greetings unto the An Tir College of Heralds from Elizabeth Lions Blood!

The following items were returned by Laurel in July 2018:

Sun Jiang. Device. Or, the oracle bone character Sūn and on a chief sable a ladle inverted argent, a bordure denticulada sable.

This device is returned for violating SENA A2C1 which requires that "Elements must be drawn in their period forms and in a period armorial style." Per the November 2017 return of the device of Michele dei Medici, "The ladle is...not drawn in a period form. The ladles we see in period images had the handle parallel to the lip, not at right angles to it. No evidence was provided and none could be found for the depiction of a ladle in the submitted configuration."

There is a step from period practice for the use of non-European characters.

The following items were returned by Laurel in August 2018:

Fergus William Biggs. Badge. (Fieldless) Two arrows in saltire surmounted by a sword inverted argent.

This device is returned for conflict with the device of Dafyd ap Tomas, Quarterly gules and vert, a sheaf of arrows argent. There's one DC for fielded vs fieldless armory. The arrangements of charges are identical: a sheaf of arrows is equivalent to two arrows in saltire and overall an arrow. The submitted design has therefore changed the type of only one of a group of three charges, which is not enough for the second DC.

Fergus William Biggs. Badge. (Fieldless) Two arrows in saltire surmounted by a sword inverted sable.

This device is returned for conflict with the device of Gavin Mac Giolla Ruaidh, Per pall inverted azure, argent, and vert, in sinister chief a sheaf of arrows sable. There's one DC for fielded vs fieldless armory, but nothing for placement on the field against a fieldless badge. The arrangements of charges are identical: a sheaf of arrows is equivalent to two arrows in saltire and overall an arrow. The submitted design has therefore changed the type of only one of a group of three charges, which is not enough for the second DC.

Fjorleif in Haga and Músa-Þóra. Joint badge. Purpure fretty, a bordure indented Or.

This device is returned for redraw and lack of identifiability. The indentations on the bordure are too small, and disappear into much of the central charge, rendering it effectively unrecognizable.

Hallgrímr Þorvaldzson. Device. Per saltire arrondi argent and azure, a brown bear rampant regardant proper maintaining to chief a basket Or.

This device is returned for poor contrast. The Or basket sits almost entirely on an argent portion of the field.

Salvador Rodrigo de Granada. Badge. (Fieldless) On a sun Or a wolf's head erased sable.

This badge is returned for conflict with the device of Akbar Khayamm, Pean, on a sun Or a wolf's head erased sable. There is one DC for fieldlessness.

This badge is also returned for redraw. The erased dags of the wolf's head are not deep enough to be effective for identification. The dags should be between 1/6 and 1/3 of the charge's overall height.

The following items were returned by An Tir in September 2018:

Asher der Jäger. New Device. Per bend sinister argent and sable, a cross alisee and a balance counterchanged.

This device is returned because the cross alisee (including the "ploye" version depicted here) is disallowed for society use, having never yet been documented to our time period. A similar charge was returned to Stanislaw Jan Ossolinski in March 1993 with this text:

"This badge had been returned on the LoAR of May 92 for lack of documentation on the type of cross. (It had been blazoned in the previous submission as a cross formy globate, which term we couldn't find in any of our references.) The submitter has appealed that return, providing evidence of this cross as an artistic motif on a suit of armor c.1630. The term "convexed", referring to the bulge of the outer edges of the cross's limbs, is documented in Elvin's Dictionary of Heraldry.

Unfortunately, my main concerns about this cross remain unaddressed. It's not readily blazonable: as drawn, it resembles a roundel with four semi-elliptical notches, not a variant of a cross formy. It's been documented only to within our 50-year "grey area", and only as an artistic motif, not an heraldic charge. The only terms that adequately describe it are found in a 19th Century work, compiled by an author whose lack of scholarship is legend. I simply have no grounds for believing this cross to be compatible with period heraldic style.

This cross has been submitted before, and returned for the above reasons; v. Jamys Ellyn Rothesay of Bannatyne Hall, LoAR of Sept 92, p.49. I'm tempted, I admit, to simply give the cross its own SCA name. (In the immortal words of Baldwin of Erebor, "Spring is in the air, and the fit is upon me; let me name but one cross before I die!") But this would do no service to the heralds and scribes who will follow us; we need some assurance that any blazon we devised would be reconstructable. In this case, at the very least we'd need to find this cross mentioned by name in some accessible reference. Failing that, or better evidence that it's a period motif, I must continue to return it."

Bella Valencia. New Device. Per saltire vert and azure, a swan naiant contourny argent.

This device is returned for two conflicts. The first is with the Barony of An Dubhaigeainn (May 2016, East): "Per fess wavy azure and barry wavy argent and azure, a duck naiant contourny argent billed Or." There is one difference given for the fields, but none for swan vs. duck. The second conflict is with the arms of Signý Ingadóttir (January 2000, Meridies): "Per chevron ermine and purpure, in base a swan naiant contourny argent." Again, there is one difference for the fields, but as Signý's swan is forced to base in order to maintain contrast, there is no difference for the swans' positioning on the field.

Taran mac Tarl'a. New Badge. (Fieldless) A lozenge ploye argent.

This badge is returned for conflict with the arms of Moira Maureen ua Seamus of the Green Hills (July 1980, East): "Per chevron azure and vert, a fusil argent." There is one difference counted for fielded vs. fieldless, but none for fusils vs. lozenges or plain edges vs. ployé edges. (See Elspeth Jamieson at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2008/09/08-09lar.html)

Valka Siggasdottir. New Name & New Device. Lozengy vert and Or, a pile sable.

The name is returned because Lions Blood did not receive a name form or payment and the name is not currently registered. This device is returned for conflict with that of Máel Dúin mac Rogellaig (September 2012, Drachenwald): "Per fess argent and gules, a pile sable." There is one difference counted between the fields. (Valka's pile as drawn should be blazoned "throughout," but this does not count for difference.)

The following items were returned by An Tir in October 2018:

Dylan de Strivelyn. New Device. Chief gules, escutcheon sable, falcon striking argent.

This device is returned for a number of conflicts, including:

  • Lodovico Uccellini della Valle (January of 2015 (via Caid)): (Fieldless) A cockatoo striking argent.

  • Drueta de la Rosa (February of 2007 (via the East)): (Fieldless) A rooster rising argent.

  • Yngvar the Dismal (May of 1993 (via the East)): (Fieldless) An eagle stooping wings elevated and addorsed argent.

    Frederick of Thornwold. New Badge. (Fieldless) A serpent contourny in annulo vorant of its tail Or.

    This badge is returned for the following conflicts:

  • Vladimir Vitalievich Volkov (April of 1997 (via Ansteorra)): Per pale argent ermined purpure and purpure, an annulet Or.

  • Alexander le Browere (July of 2001 (via Atenveldt)): Per pale sable and vert, a serpent involved in annulo Or.

    The remainder of Frederick's submissions are pended for payment/forms and will be returned if the outstanding items are not received by the time the December letter is published.

    Marcus Octavius Rufus. New Device. no blazon provided

    This device is returned. The primary charge does not match period depictions of a thunderbolt, and no other blazon describes it. Without the hornlike shapes in center pale, something similar may be blazonable.

  • The following items are presented for commentary in November 2018:

    1: Æsa Rauðfeldr -New Name & New Device

    Sable estencile argent, on a point pointed argent a triquetta gules

    Submitter desires a feminine name.
    Meaning (Norse) most important.

    The submitter's branch is Coeur du Val.

    Æsa is found in Viking Names found in Landnámabók by Aryanhwy merch Catmael. http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html

    Rauðfeldr is found in Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók by Aryanhwy merch Catmael. http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html

    The submitter has a letter of permission to conflict with the badge of Wilhelm von Düsseldorf:

    I, [name redacted], known in the SCA as Wilhelm von Düsseldorf do give [name redacted], known in the SCA as Æsa Rauðelfr permission for her device, Sable estencile argent, upon a point pointed argent a triquetta gules, to conflict with my badge, Sable estencile argent, upon a point pointed argent a cattail plant proper. I understand this permission cannot be revoked.

    It is signed and dated 18 Aug 2018.


    2: Ana Florese di Siena -New Name & New Device

    no blazon provided

    Client requests authenticity for 12th-14th century Italian, Tuscany region - Siena, Italy.

    The submitter's branch is Glyn Dwfn.

    The submitter provided no documentation. The An Tir submissions team was able to find documentation as follows. As the submitter requested authenticity, we have only sourced what we could find from the Tuscany region of Italy.

    We could not find <Ana> in this region. <Anna> is found in "Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427" by Arval Benicoeur. https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/catasto/#alpha

    We also could not find <Florese>, but <Forese> is found in "Family Names Appearing in the Catasto of 1427" by Ferrante LaVolpe. https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ferrante/catasto/family_names.html

    <Siena> is a modern place in Italy in the Tuscany region (it is just south of Florence). We couldn't find any documentation that the placename was spelled that way in the period the submitter is asking for.


    3: Friderich von Werla -New Name

    Submitter desires a masculine name.
    Client requests authenticity for 10-11th century for the Duchy of Saxony.
    Language most important.

    The submitter's branch is Wyewood.

    Friderich is a Male Germanic given name dated to the 9th century found s.n. Fredericus in "Names in the Low Countries before 1150" by Dr. Kees C. Nieuwenhuijsen (http://www.keesn.nl/names/en42_list_mx.htm).

    Werla (Werlu in Latin) is a German place found in "Thietmari Merseburgensis episcopi Chronicon, post editionem loh. M. Lappenbergii recognovit Fridericus Kurze" by Thietmar von Mersenburg in 984 (https://archive.org/details/thietmarimersebu00thieuoft/page/66).

    Under Appendix A of SENA, in German, locative bynames based on place names use the form von X.


    4: Isobella Forbes -New Device

    OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2017, via An Tir.

    Argent, a foxes head erased sable, on a bordure azure a semi of borage flowers argent

    The submitter's branch is Wealdsmere.


    5: Margaret Palmer -New Device

    OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2018, via An Tir.

    Per fess wavy azure and vert, two wrens and a stag Or

    The submitter's branch is Madrone.


    6: Vestia Antonia Aurelia -New Badge

    OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2011, via An Tir.

    (Fieldless) A staple inverted gules

    The submitter's branch is Myrtleholt.


    7: Wilhelm von Düsseldorf -New Device

    OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Wilhelm von D?sseldorf in January of 1990, via the West.

    Gyronny of 8 vert and Or, a saltire counterchanged

    The submitter's branch is Coeur du Val.


    I remain,
    In service to Crown and College,
    Viscountess Elizabeth Turner de Carlisle
    Lions Blood Herald


    OSCAR counts 3 Names, 5 Devices and 1 Badge. There are a total of 9 items submitted on this letter.