Atlantia LoI dated 2023-10-29

Unto Emma de Fetherstan, Laurel, Elisabetta Tommaso di Carduci, Pelican, and Iago ab Adam, Wreath

Greetings!

It is our intent to register the following items on behalf of the people of Atlantia. My thanks to all those who took the time to comment at Kingdom level:Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (Metron Ariston), Ragnar Leifsson, Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha (Ragged Staff), Nest verch Gwilim (Crane), Juetta Copin, Jeanne Marie Lacroix (Palimpsest), Gunnvor silfraharr (Orle), Mālik ibn Jinnī (formerly Basil Dragonstrike) (Lions Heart), Etienne Le Mons (Nereid), Iago ab Adam (Wreath), ffride wlffsdotter (Morelle)


1: Ælfyn of Crowland - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2023, via Atlantia.

Alexander Jay of Ravenscroft

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for middle to late period English.
Meaning (Meaning not Specified) most important.

The submitter wants an English name as a given name (masculine), surname, and locative, as in SENA Appendix A English/Welsh
Middle/Early Modern English given+byname+loc

Alexander is found as an English masculine given name in Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources under "Alexander" https://dmnes.org/name/Alexander in England section from 1155 to 1599.

Jay is found as an English surname in Monumental Brass Enscriptions - Surnames I - Z https://heraldry.sca.org/names/brasses/lastnameIZ.htm as "Jay", 1480.

The byname is a locative with of, as allowed in SENA App. A; Early/Middle Modern English.
Ravenscroft is found in Dictionary of Tudor London Names https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/tudorlondon.pdf under Raynscroft (1576), given as locative formed from Ravenscroft (undated Cheshire)
Note: Form states the name is a new alternate name change but submitter has only a primary name. The submitter also states they want no holding however submitter already has a registered primary name.

Additional Information:

Alexander Skott buried on 14 March 1590 at Lincoln (Batch #: B011914)

Alexander Tayler buried on 1 April 1594 at Cranbrook in Kent (Batch #: B02880-3)

Alexander Crue buried on 4 May 1597 at Lacock in Wiltshire (Batch #: B003878)

Thomas Jay buried on 29 August 1588 at Salisbury in Wiltshire (Batch #: B058768)

John Jay married on 16 May 1590 at Cradley in Herefordshire (Batch #: M145822)

John Jay christened on 13 April 1593 at Bockleton in Worcestershire (Batch : C039922A)

Ravenscroft from the Cheshire Parish Registers:

Thomasine Ravenscroft married on 17 July 1620 at Barnet in Hertfordshire (Batch #: M072131)

Jane Ravenscroft married on 10 February 1638 at Selattyn in Shropshire (Batch #: M018151)

Katherine Ravenscroft married on 4 October 1637 at London (Batch #: M001461)


2: Ælfyn of Crowland - New Device (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2023, via Atlantia.

Per pale argent and sable, two crows respectant and in chief a cloud counterchanged

No Conflict


3: Annabella of the Bay - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Per pale azure and vert, a natural leopard rampant argent sustaining a hanging balance Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Nothing Specified.
Language/Culture (Annabella is most important) most important.

Annabella: Scots feminine given name Annabella is found in Withycombe (p.26, header), where the author indicates that this is the Latinized spelling of Annabel dated to 1367 (when Robert III of Scotland married Annabel Drummond), a name found exclusively in Scotland "until modern times".

of the Bay Toponymic byname. R&W s.n. Bay dates John ate Bey to 1279 and Wiliam Bay to 1373, giving both as derived from "at the bend" (OE beag).

R&W, sn Brook, Brooks - Peter attebroke in 1262 and William aboventhebroke in 1276 and William in le broke in 1296; sn Stream, Streamer, we have Henry atte Streme, 1279.

No Conflict

Device:

No Conflict


4: Bogoslov Vynohradov - New Device (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2023, via Atlantia.

Purpure, two poleaxes in saltire argent surmounted by a chalice Or


5: Bogoslov Vynohradov - New Augmentation of Arms (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2023, via Atlantia.

Purpure, two poleaxes in saltire argent surmounted by a chalice Or and for an augmentation in base a unicornate natural seahorse Or.

The submitter was awarded an augmentation at Pennsic 50 by Cuan IX and Adelhait III.


6: Catheryn inghean Uí Dhubhshláine - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Per fess argent and vert, a decrescent purpure and an increscent vert and on a sun argent a natural dolphin purpure

No major changes.
Spelling (spelling of Catheryn, and some form of Dulany in Gaelic) most important.

Catheryn is a feminine English given name found in FamilySearch: Catheryn Holt, 6 Feb 1594, Chiddingfold, Surrey, England, batch M06799-2

Ó Dubhshláine is a clan affiliation header in Woulfe, with Anglicized Irish forms O Dowlaney and O Dulany dated t. Eliz. I - James I. By precedent, the corresponding standard Gaelic form can be registered.

The feminine form is inghean Uí Dhubhshláine, following Sharon Krossa, "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names" (http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/). The submitter prefers to use accents.

English and Gaelic can be combined per App. C of SENA.

No Conflict

Device:

No Conflict


7: Elionora inghean Mhic Ceallaigh - New Name (KLoI) (NP)

No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for Gaelic.

Elionora: Names and Naming Practices in the Fitzwilliam Accounts of 16th Century Ireland http://heraldry.sca.org/names/lateirish/fitzwilliam.html; Latin Context> Women

Ceallach: corresponding standard Gaelic nominative form of an Anglicized Irish masculine given name, Kellie, found in "Names and Naming Practices in the Fitzwilliam Accounts of 16th Century Ireland" http://heraldry.sca.org/names/lateirish/fitzwilliam.html. The genitive is Ceallaigh, also found in Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, "Index of Names in Irish Annals", with Early Modern Irish Gaelic forms dated 1251-1376 (https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Cellach.shtml). The patronymic follows a word ending in c so does not need to be lenited.

The pattern of given + inghean Mhic + relative's given name in the genitive is discussed in the Nov 2016 Cover Letter and indicates either an instance where the father's name starts with Mac- or a grandparent relationship.

The combination of Anglicized Irish (including Latinizations) and Gaelic is allowed under App C of SENA.
submitter insists upon the sound of Mhic, other changes are okay.


8: Evelyn Gray - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Per chevron fleury counter-fleury vert and Or, two daisies proper and a badgerhound rampant sable

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound (No sound specified) most important.

Evelyn is an English feminine given name dated 1393 in "English Names found in Brass Enscriptions" by Julian Goodwyn, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/brasses/

Gray is an English surname dated 1392 in "English Names found in Brass Enscriptions" by Julian Goodwyn, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/brasses/


9: Kade Tatter Skirt - Resub Badge (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2018, via Atlantia.

Or, an oak leaf vert within a bordure sable.

Robin of Twyford (September 2012 Lochac) Or, an oaK leaf within a bordure Vert. Blanket permission to conflict granted 2014.

Previously returned in JAN 2018

"This device [sic - sometimes there is a proofreading fail] is returned for lack of identifiability of the horse's skull. The examples of non-human skulls in period armory are limited, and have distinguishing features (such as the horns of the bull found in the arms of Capo di Vacca in the Insignia nobilium Patavinorum, BSB Cod.icon. 275:23v) that aid in identifiability. They are also affronty. With two exceptions, both registered prior to 1990, skulls in SCA armory are likewise distinguished by either horns/antlers or, in the sole example of an elephant's skull, tusks. This last example had tusks that were as tall as the skull itself and spanned the width of the device, to make up for the lack of identifying trunk of the elephant.

Without these distinctive identifying features, it becomes difficult to identify the animal whose skull is being displayed, and indeed there is little to differentiate the skull of a horse from one from another ungulate, such as a pig.

Absent documentation of animal skulls being depicted in profile in period armory, and absent documentation of animal skulls lacking distinctive characteristics that aid in immediate identification, either practice will be grounds for return."


10: Kelson Mor - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2023, via Atlantia.

Bacon Mor

No major changes.
Sound (No sound specified) most important.

Mor is found as a surname in in FamilySearch dated to 1582 in the record of the marriage of Richard Mor married in Ipstones, Staffordshire, England Batch No: M09684-3 (familysearch.org/62903/1:1:V52N-QHT)

Bacon is found as a surname in Hitching and Hitching, in England dated to 1601 and 1602.

Bacon is being used as a given name which is allowable in late-period England per App A of SENA.

No Conflict


11: Kelson Mor - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2023, via Atlantia.

Mor Bacon

Submitter desires a gender-neutral name.
No major changes.
Sound (More Bacon) most important.

Mor is found as a surname in in FamilySearch dated to 1582 in the record of the marriage of Richard Mor married in Ipstones, Staffordshire, England Batch No: M09684-3 (familysearch.org/62903/1:1:V52N-QHT)

Bacon is found as a surname in Hitching and Hitching, in England dated to 1601 and 1602.

Mor is being used as a given name which is allowable in late-period England per App A of SENA.


12: Lucrezia Ridolfi - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Per pale checky argent and azure and gules, a fox rampant guardant, on a chief Or three fleurs de lys gules

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Spelling (please don't touch the z in Lucrezia) most important.

Lucrezia is an Italian feminine given name found dated before 1600 in Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith): s.v. Names of Venetian Women Recorded Before 1600 in Names from Sixteenth Century Venice https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html

Ridolfi is an Italian surname dated between 1282 and 1532 found in Sara L. Uckelman "Italian Family Names from the Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282-1532" at https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/tratte/familynames.html

No Conflict

Device:

No Conflicts


13: Lucrezia Ridolfi - New Badge (KLoI)

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) On a fleur de lys gules, a fox rampant guardant argent

Submitter reworked their badge to have a fox instead of a fox holding a flower.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=3774/2023-10-29/11-07-22_12-54-18_Lucrezia_Ridolfi.png


14: Pippin Marchand - New Device (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2019, via Atlantia.

Quarterly Or and vert, a cross fleury counterchanged

No Conflicts


15: Rene de Binche - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Per pale gules and sable, in pale a panache conjoined to a mummer's mask argent.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for Flanders (Walloonian).
Language/Culture (Flanders (Walloonian)) most important.

René is a male given name found in "Names Found in Commercial Documents from Bordeaux, 1470-1520" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/bordeaux.html)

de standard French locative see Appendix A.

de Binche is a locative byname be found dated 1337 in "Jewish Given Names Found in Les Noms Des Israélites en France" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael, s.n. Benoit (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/jewish/levy/benoit.html).

Binche is a town now in modern Belgium.

Additional Information

Rene Bourguistier christened in 1626 at Namur in Belgium (Batch #: C870282)

Rene Lebon christened on 28 September 1621 also at Namur (Batch #: C870282)

René Paine married on 16 July 1623 at Amsterdam in the Netherlands (Batch #: M901254)

Locative:

"Binche is also found in 16th century Dutch sources, such as Die cronycke van Hollant, Zeelant ende Vrieslant by Ellert de Veer, published in 1591 ( https://oscar.sca.org/s.php?u=16021 [ books.google.com ] [books.google.com ] )

And in 16th century French sources such as Histoire des troubles et guerre civile du pays de Flandres by Jean Stratius published in 1584 ( https://oscar.sca.org/s.php?u=16022 [ books.google.com ] [books.google.com ] )"


16: Santiago de Villalobos - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Gules, a saltire Or between three wolves rampant and a tower argent.

No major changes.
Spelling (wants Santiago) most important.

Santiago dated 1574 as given name 2 instances: Santiago de Esquivel (1574 v.3454); Santiago del Riego (1574 v.3570) Elsbeth Anne Roth 16th Century Spanish Names

If Santiago is rejected, the submitter will accept Diego

de standard Spanish locative per Appendix A

Villalobos CORDE Real Academia Espanola 10 examples (1200s through 1500s), e.g. 1495 Sentencia [Documentos del Monasteria de Santa Clara de Villalobos 10. Documentos notoriales ed.Nieves Sanchez, M.Teresa Herrera Universidad de Salamanca (Salamanca) 2000

Additional Information:

Santiago Zofraguilla married on 7 November 1582 at Tordesillas, Valladolid, Spain (Batch #: M873696)

Santiago de Verzero married on 21 November 1568 at Tordesillas, Valladolid, Spain (Batch #: M873696)

Santiago de Prado married on 14 September 1614 at Tamariz de Campos, Valladolid, Spain (Batch #: M873602)

Pedro Villalobos married on 9 November 1588 at Granada in Andolucia (Batch #: M792406)

Ana Villalobos married on 23 February 1591 at Granada in Andolucia (Batch #: M792406)

Maria de Varrios y Villalobos married on 14 July 1585 at Valladolid in Spain (Batch #: M871213)

No Conflicts

No Conflicts


17: Seamus Mor - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2023, via Atlantia.

Seamus Puplett Mor

Submitter wishes to register a variation of his registered name. Séamus: found in Index of Names in Irish Annals by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O'Brien) 14 records dated 1398-1608. https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Seamus.shtml

Puplett: is a surname found in Family Search Historical Records: James Puplett Male Christening: Nov 1569 Mitcham, Surrey, England Batch: C07152-1

Mor is an English family name, which can properly be used after an inherited surname.
From FamilySearch: Nycollas Mor; Male; Marriage; 27 Nov 1610; Ashby de la Zouch, Leicester, England; Batch: M06450-1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK67-SLH)
Agnis Mor; Female; Marriage; 19 Nov 1564; Ringwood, Hampshire, England; Batch: M15056-1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N264-587)
English language group allows double bynames.

No Conflicts


18: Seamus Mor - New Device (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2023, via Atlantia.

Argent, a dog rampant sable collared argent maintaining a wooden walking stick proper.


19: Thor Thor - New Name (KLoI) (NP)

Sound (Thor Thor is the current merchant name client uses.) most important.

Thor: Latin Scots 12th century DMNES S.V. Thor c1100 Thor (abl) ESC XX; c1105 Thor (nom) ibid. XXIV; 1107x1117 Thor (nom) ibid. XXXIII; 1117x1124 Thor (nom) ibid. XXXIV

Thor: above, unmarked patronymic

SENA Appendix A English/Welsh (Scots)

No Conflict


20: Vakr Kameroskous - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Per saltire argent and gules, a fox salient sable marked argent

Vakr is a masculine given name in Geirr Bassi.

Kameroskous is a family name that's Lithuanian in origin (but not the submitter's legal name). If that name could be shown to be period and compatible with Vakr, the submitter would like that family name.

ffride says "Lietuvių pavardžių žodynas [Dictionary of Lithuanian Surnames] http://pavardes.lki.lt/ has Kamarauskas, which it associates with Polish Komorowski (which shouldn't be a surprise, because -auskas is what -owski became when it was Lithuanianised.

I can find examples of Komorowski in the territory Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, just not spelled like it would be in Lithuanian today, because the people writing things down in Ruthenian and Polish (particularly for -owski/-auskas bynames) had a tendency to "transpose" the names they recognised into their preferred language. Eg. in Powiat Winnicki (Vinnytsia county), today in central Ukraine: Stanisław Komorowski, 1569

From: Aleksander Jabłonowski. 1894. Polska XVI wieku pod względem geograficzno-statystycznym. Tom IX. Ziemie ruskie : Ukraina (Kijów-Bracław) (Gebethner, Warszaw) p. 102 https://oscar.sca.org/s.php?u=4015 [ www.google.com.au ]

Covering the Ruthenian side, there is:
Gediminas Lesmaitis, Beata Piasecka (trans.), and Karol Łopatecki (ed.) 2018. Popisy wojskowe pospolitego ruszenia Wielkiego Księstwa Litewskiego (1524-1566) [Mydodgy translation from the Polish: Description of the military mobilisation levy of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania] (1524-1566)" (Białystok: Institute for Research of European Cultural Heritage) has: Мартынъ Коморовъски [Martyn" Komorov"ski], p. 272 Ꙗнъ Комаровъски [Ian" Komarov"ski], p. 356 https://repcyfr.pl/dlibra/publication/12632/edition/12454?language=en

But I don't think I'm going to get any closer than Komorowski, KomorovXML_ENCODED_AMPERSANDquot;ski, or Komarov"ski.
If not, the submitter will accept Knutsson. Knutr is a masculine given name in Geirr Bassi; it is also his father's registered name.

Additional Information:

E.H. Lind Dopnamn col. 1064, <Valkr Arngrímsson> was an Icelandic settler. <Vakr elfski Raumason> was one of the warriors on the Orminn Langi at the Battle of Svolder, in either 999 or 1000. He also gives placenames with this masculine name in Iceland up to the 15th c.

Vak Komorowski

SSNO vol. 6, p. 9, sn. Wak

Vak, thywn de Zloczow 1449

note: I think "thywn" might be modern Polish "ciwun", or Lithuanian "tijūnas," a type of civil official.

SSNO vol. 3, p. 61 sn. Komorowski has:

Nicolaus Comorocensis XV (1487)

No Conflict


21: Vika Novgorodskaya - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Vert, a nude Caucasian woman proper with the head and wings of a raven sable arms outstretched and in base a saltire couped parted and fretted within and conjoined to an annulet Or.

Sound (changes are ok, but client wishes to conserve sound) most important.

Vika: feminine given name dated to the 13th-14th centuries [Lev 35], per Wickenden, p393 (3rd ed)

Novgorodskaya: Topanym from Novgorod, est. 862 (or earlier) per Wickenden 3rd ed adjectival toponymic, form p. xxvii. Wickenden, "Locative Bynames in Medieval Russia (https://heraldry.sca.org/names/names/toprus.html) also discusses the use of the suffix -skaia in adjectival (type IV) feminine locatives.

Slavic languages use i/y switches. For example Skobel'tsyn and Skobyl'tsin both appear in Wickenden, s.n. Skobel'tsa.


22: Vixsin Steel - New Name (KLoI) (NP)

Vixen is a French given name, which can be combined with an English byname under Appendix C
Vixen Lorentz; Male; Marriage; 13 May 1605; Griess, Bas-Rhin, France; Batch: M82956-1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FXTW-FZ4)
Vixen Hans; Male; Marriage; 10 Aug 1642; Griess, Bas-Rhin, France; Batch: M82956-1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FXTW-N9C)

Steel is dated to 1379 in Bardsley s.n. Steel, which puts it within 300 years of both instances of the given name.

The submitter would prefer "Vixsin" if it could be documented.


In Service

James of Carinthia, Gold Dolphin Herald


OSCAR counts 11 New Names, 4 New Alternate Names, 12 New Devices, 1 New Badge and 1 New Augmentation of Arms. These 29 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $116 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Badge. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 30 items submitted on this letter.