Laurel LoPaD dated 2023-10-11

To all the College of Arms and all others who may read this missive, from Emma Laurel, Elisabetta Pelican, and Iago Wreath, greetings.

This letter contains the issues raised in the August 2023 LoAR for CoA discussion. The text in this letter is copied verbatim from that LoAR; it is provided here for convenience. As with an October 2023 LoI, these matters are currently scheduled for the Pelican and Wreath meetings in January 2024. Original commentary, responses, and rebuttals to commentary must be entered into OSCAR no later than Sunday, December 31, 2023.


1: CaitrĂ­ona le Fox - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2010, via Caid.

(Fieldless) A mullet of eight points argent, each point conjoined to a flame azure

This badge is pended to discuss whether or not we should continue to treat enflaming as an artistic detail, or count it for difference.

The flames in this badge are a reasonable way to depict a mullet enflamed, so we must consider this blazon when assessing potential conflicts. For the last 20 years, we have consistently considered enflaming to be a purely artistic detail not worth difference. If the flames in this submission are not counted for difference then there are multiple conflicts.

This was item 1 on the Caid letter of May 31, 2023.

(https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=122924)


2: Hemneter Pennefer - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name on the Caid LoI of April 30, 2023 as submitted.

(Fieldless) A spider inverted Or maintaining a torteau charged with an ankh Or

This badge is pended to allow a decision to be made on the Palimpsest June 3 Rules Letter regarding changes to SENA A3A2. As currently written, SENA A3A2 disallows the use of charged roundels in a fieldless badge; the proposed changes may allow this armory to be registered.

There is a step from core practice for the use of a spider inverted.

This was item 5 on the Caid letter of May 31, 2023.

(https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=122922)


3: Hungarian Order of the Dragon - New Unprotect Non-SCA Item

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) A dragon contourny in annulo Or tail wrapped around its own neck

We currently protect two badges for this order, (Fieldless) A dragon contourny in annulo Or tail wrapped around its own neck and (Fieldless) On a dragon contourny in annulo Or tail wrapped around its own neck a cross gules.

Accompanying the Middle Kingdom's submission of a badge for the Region of the Midlands, pended on the August 2023 LoAR, the kingdom requested that the first badge, (Fieldless) A dragon contourny in annulo Or tail wrapped around its own neck, be unprotected. The Kingdom argued that "there are two versions of the badge, and the only time the cross doesn't appear along the back of the dragon is when the dragon is conjoined to a cross. It also appears that physical representations of the badge were regarded as tinctureless, so the examples where the cross is the same color as the dragon should not be viewed as evidence the cross wasn't a significant part of the badge."

Please discuss the Kingdom's proposal to unprotect the version of this Order's badge that lacks a cross.


4: Middle, Kingdom of the - Resub Appeal of Laurel Return of Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in of at some point, .

Gules, a dragon in annulo vorant of its own tail Or

This badge is pended to await the outcome of the discussion regarding unprotecting one of the badges of the Hungarian Order of the Dragon, (Fieldless) A dragon contourny in annulo Or tail wrapped around its own neck, elsewhere on this letter.

This submitter has permission to conflict with the device of the Shire of Hinterland, Gules, a dragon dormant in annulo between three laurel wreaths Or, and with Hinterland's badge, Gules, a dragon dormant in annulo and a bordure rayonny Or.

The submitter requested that this badge be associated with the "Region of the Midlands." However, this name is neither registered nor generic, so we decline to make this association in our records.

This was item 4 on the Middle letter of May 30, 2023.

(https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=123215)


Pray know that I remain,

In service,

Emma de Fetherstan
Laurel Queen of Arms


OSCAR counts 3 Badges and 1 Unprotect Non-SCA Item. There are a total of 4 items submitted on this letter.