Ealdormere LoI dated 2023-09-24
Greetings to Emma Laurel, Elisabetta Pelican, and Iago Wreath from Dietrich Red Escutcheon and Acting Green Mantle:
We humbly submit for consideration and registration by the College the following names and armoury. These submissions are from Pennsic Herald's Point.
Argent, three whelk shells azure and a ford proper
Submitter desires a feminine name.
Alexandra : There are 143 LGPN results for feminineἈλεξάνδρα. Dates range from (code hell.) 323BC - 31BC in Antheon to 324 or 378AD in Kadoi. Wikipedia Classical Greek transliteration is Alexandra. http://clas-lgpn2.classics.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/lgpn_search.cgi?... E%91%CE%9D%CE%94%CE%A1%CE%91 Athenaia : is a locative byname for Greece from ASimple Guide to Classical Greek Names by Ursula Georges http://yarntheory.net/ursulageorges/names/classicalgreeknames.html
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
Sable, a stag's attire palewise gules
This is an IAP. In Siebmacher we can demonstrate a pattern of gules charges on sable fields:
Pg 75/Plate 55 V:Kesslitz Per bend gules and sable, a bend argent between two estoiles argent and gules.
Pg 141/Plate 121 Die Themar Per chevron throughout Or and sable, three roses two and one gules.
Pg 178/Plate 158 Die Thomshirn Quarterly barry argent and azure and sable, the sable quarters charged with a Caucasian male argent vested gules.
P181/plate 161 Die Zimmer Per pale sable and gules, two horns counterchanged.
P182/plate 162 v Berbisdorf per pale gules and sable, two Caucasian arms argent vested counterchanged maintaining a crown argent in chief an estoile Or.
P187/plate 167 V Homberg Per pale sable and argent, a lion gules and three batons sable.
P202/plate 182 V Radenhavesen Per pale gules and sable, an eagle counterchanged.
P226/plate 206 Die Grolandt Sable, a rose gules slipped vert.
As can be seen, all types of charges, animate and inanimate, geometric and non-geometric were placed gules on sable fields. These charges were placed solo or with other charges. In addition, low contrast gules on sable can be seen with tertiary charges:
P166/plate 146 Flanse Argent, on an eagle sable, a crescent gules.
P179/plate 159 V Breidenbach Argent, on a wing sable a Z gules.
P185/plate 165 V Ossa Argent, on a bend sinister sable, three roundels gules.
A stag's attire can be found on P145/Plate 125 Hirschberg.
Sound (Elias) most important.
Elias: found in Bardsley, p. 67, sn Atwater: Elias Atewater, co Camb, 1273 CE.
Forester: Rebecka Forester (female), christened 4 Mar 1594 in London, England. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQ17-2ZQ
Batch No: P00154-1
Ragged Staff has also added the following:
We also have Forester in Names from 13th Century Northumberland: Raw Data, by Sara L. Uckelman https://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/rawdatanorth...
The name shows up in the data as Adam le Forester. SENA Appendix A shows that the marker |le| can be omitted.
Magdalena de l'appetit
Per pall gules and argent and Or, a stag's head affronty sable
No holding name.
Magdalena - "Italian Renaissance Women's Names" by Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/ital... lists this name as a feminine name from Florence dated to the 14th and 15th C.
appetit is a French noun for 'appetite' found in Trésor de la Langue Française informatisé, s.v. appétit, dated c1180 in the spelling apetit and 1370-2 in the spelling appetit (http://stella.atilf.fr/Dendien/scripts/tlfiv5/affart.exe?28;s=3793560540;?b=0;).
Per SENA Appendix C, we can mix late period French and Italian Per SENA Appendix A, the French descriptive bynames do not need further documentation.
de l'appetit I believe follows this pattern. The College is requesting assistance documenting the name de l'appetit and the pattern.
Vert, three butterflies argent within an orle Or
Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sibylle is a feminine given name found in the DMNES in New High German as Sibilla in 1497 - https://dmnes.org/cite/Sibilla/1497/Nurn1497 - submitter would like to swap the second i for a y and end the name on an e.
Katterina is a German feminine given name found in St. Gabriel Report 3164, which states in part that this name spelling is a German form of Katherine found in the 14th and 15th centuries - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?3164+0
Holloway is the submitter's legal surname, witnessed on a Canadian driver's license by Lillia Crampette and Wynne ap Rhodri at Pennsic 50, PHP.
As always, kindest thanks to all those who take the time to comment.
In service to Their Majesties Ealdormere I remain,
Dietrich, Green Mantle (Acting)