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Ansteorra ILoI dated 2023-11-03 Greetings to the Heralds of the Known World, from Sigrun S. í Biarká, Asterisk Herald for the Kingdom of Ansteorra. Please find the following submitted for your valued consideration and commentary.
 1: Beatrix Funteyn -New Badge
OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2008, via Calontir.
Fieldless A blasted thornbush proper
Previous badges to be kept
Badge Comments:
Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha (Ragged Staff) at 2023-11-03 11:46:24
Blazon foo cleaned up:
(Fieldless) A blasted thornbush proper.
Jeanne Marie Lacroix (Palimpsest) at 2023-11-05 04:35:01
I'd go with
(Fieldless) A thornbush blasted proper
I assume there's there's not difference between this and a tree blasted.
Potential conflict, Lorn Mac Ewen, (Fieldless) The trunk of a tree couped sprouting three slips proper. There is a DC for fieldlessness. This is classified as brown in the O&A. I'm not sure that removing the slips is sufficient to grant a DC. If not, there will need to be a DC between a thornbush and a tree trunk, which is going to be a call for Wreath.
No other potential conflicts found.
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 2: Bridgette of York -New Name (NP) & New Device
Sable a dovetailed bend argent, between a badger head erased and a bee Or marked sable.
Submitter desires a feminine name.
The following changes are allowed: see terms defined in documentation notes Sound (Bridge + jet) most important.
Submitted through the Barony of Bonwicke - Eclipse Herald
Name formula of given name + (locative) byname
<Bridgette> Legal Name Allowance (PN1B2e). This is the submitter's legal given name.
A redacted copy of their State issued Driver's License has been provided to Asterisk.
<of York> Locative byname - Reaney & Wilson, 3rd ed., p 508.0s.n. York, Yorke: John <de York> 1324, of York being the lingua anglica form of <de York>.
*The submitter is aware that this name may be considered presumptive with a real person named Bridget of York (1480 - 1507) who was the seventh daughter of King Edward IV. It is our hope that since this person was a younger daughter (who spent her life in a nunnery without any claim to fame of her own) that this name will not be considered presumptive.
Understanding that this decision is solely under the purview of the College of Arms, the submitter would like to add a second/double given name if necessary: Bridgette Nichole of York
<Nichole> DMNES Middle French version of Nicole - 1296 Nichole paris1296 p. 3 https://dmnes.org/name/Nicole
Name Comments:
Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha (Ragged Staff) at 2023-11-03 11:23:01
No need for the LNA, we have Bridgette in the gray period at 1618 in English Names from 16th and Early 17th C Marriage Records from Somerset, by Sara L. Uckelman - https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/somerset.html
Cannot speak to the presumption issue, as I'd never heard of Bridgette of York.
Sigrun Sveinungsdóttir í Biarká (Asterisk) at 2023-11-03 13:26:23
Because of the historical persons number in line , I dont think there will be a presumptive issue. Just my thoughts on it
Device Comments:
Jeanne Marie Lacroix (Palimpsest) at 2023-11-05 04:40:15
Reblazon with comma and standard word order:
Sable, a bend dovetailed argent between a badger's head erased and a bee Or marked sable
No conflicts found.
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 3: Hazel Bones -New Name (NP) & New Device
Per pale purpure and argent papellony sable, a heart counterchanged
Submitter desires a feminine name.
The following changes are allowed: ANY Language/Culture (English, items from the natural world) most important.
Hazel: "England, Norfolk, Parish Registers (County Record Office), 1510-1997," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VNN6-7PV : 23 February 2021), Thomas Frowe and Hazel Sans, 1597, Marriage; citing Shimpling, Norfolk, England, Record Office, Norwich; FHL microfilm 1,657,289.
Bones: "England Marriages, 1538-1973", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXBY-GM4 : 13 March 2020), Cycely Bones in entry for Paule Jacob, 1571.
Name Comments:
Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha (Ragged Staff) at 2023-11-03 11:32:31
Batch numbers are still needed for the name elements from Family Search, and we cannot use the citation for Hazel as the batch number isn't usable (V batch numbers are not listed as usable in this article - https://heraldry.sca.org/names/familysearch.html )
The batch number for Bones is M15305-1, usable.
For Hazel, we can do surname as given name per SENA Appendix A for English name construction in the later 16th century. We have it as the marriage of Anne Hazel, 21 September 1585, Lindsey, Suffolk, England, Batch # M06322-2 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLMY-L89
No conflicts noted.
Iago ab Adam (Wreath) at 2023-11-03 11:47:03
The Administrative Handbook, Appendix H, https://heraldry.sca.org/admin.html#APPENDIXH , under "General Online Resources That Do Not Require Copies", says V batches are acceptable:
"Records from the FamilySearch Historical Records that are from the following Batches: B, C, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), P, or V at https://www.familysearch.org/"
Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha (Ragged Staff) at 2023-11-03 12:43:40
DOH! Sorry!
Jeanne Marie Lacroix (Palimpsest) at 2023-11-15 19:21:20
The batch number for Hazel is V01545-0, which should be included on the LoI.
Device Comments:
Tibor the Indecisive (Moonbeam Pursuivant) at 2023-11-12 14:57:49
Appears free of conflict.
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 4: Heinrich Geyr -New Name (NP) & New Device
Please consider the following possible conflicts identified by OSCAR (many will not be conflicts): Henry Erwaker(8/2007)
Quarterly azure and Sable, two rats in bend rampant Argent
Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound (No examples given) most important. Language/Culture (No examples given) most important. Meaning (No examples given) most important.
Submitted through the Shire of Graywood
Heinrich > Given Name - frequency 7 - https://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html
Geyr > surname -https://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/surnamesnurna-m.html
Frequency 2- from Nürnberg
Device Comments:
Jeanne Marie Lacroix (Palimpsest) at 2023-11-05 04:45:51
The only tincture that is always capitalized is Or. Other tinctures are capitalized only when they are the first word of the blazon (or first word following fieldless). Current practice is to list the arrangement of primary charges before the charges.
Quarterly azure and sable, in bend two rats rampant argent
Is the field azure or purpure? It looks purpure on my monitor and the color corrected emblazon shows more than enough purple to call it purpure.
No conflicts found whether the quarters are purpure or azure.
Áshildr inn Hárfagri at 2023-12-05 16:27:17
Can we get a clarification from the submitter on whether this should be azure or purpure, and/or permission to adjust the color in the submitted emblazon for clarity during the submission process?
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 5: Jonathan of York -Resub Device
OSCAR finds the name on the Ansteorra LoI of May 03, 2023 as submitted.
Or, three arrows fretted in triangle inverted sable
Originally returned on the Aug 2023 LoAR;
"This device is returned for conflict with the badge of the Shire of Arrows's Flight, Or, three arrows fretted in triangle purpure"
Please see the letter attached Letter of Permission to conflict provided by the Shire of Arrow's Flight.
The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
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Device Comments:
Tibor the Indecisive (Moonbeam Pursuivant) at 2023-11-12 15:48:17
Appears free of conflict, other than that with which permission to conflict is granted.
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 6: Margery Heron -New Badge
OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2021, via Ansteorra.
Argent, three trident heads in bend sable
Submitted through the Barony of Steppes - retain old badges
Badge Comments:
Jeanne Marie Lacroix (Palimpsest) at 2023-11-05 04:48:25
Reblazon as Argent, in bend three trident heads sable.
No conflicts found.
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7: Taghdàn O"Brian -New Name (NP)
Submitter desires a feminine name.
Submitted through the Barony of Bordermarch
Taghdàn > given name - https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Tadgan.shtml
Number of Men found in the annals with this name - 2 - Years found in - 972,974, 979, 996
O'Brian > surname - O'Brian: Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents,Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (Kathleen M. O'Brien) http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml
HEADING: Brian - "Brian ne Moghory O Brian 1601 0271-273 F-Eliz-17 6562 (5235.)" [Masculine Given Name] [Patronymic Byname Using Father's Given Name] [Family Name]
From Metron Ariston: Evidence for the use of the apostrophe after O and before a root name can be provided from another article by O'Brien "Anglicized Irish Names in Patent Rolls, 1603-1604"(http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/Woulfe/RawData_Ewen.shtml ). While this set of raw documentary material does not show O'Brian per se it does show the name of Lysagh McBrian Dariston and routinely shows clan affiliation names with the apostrophe: Dermod O'Gelleghan, Connoghor glass O'Davine of Killala, Connor O'Moyle O'Fahie, Garrat McArt O'Connor, Philip O'Maher, etc.).
16th & 17th Century Anglicized Irish Surnames from Woulfe
http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/Woulfe/SortedByAnglicizedRoot.shtml
M'Brian shown in example of usage Brian
The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
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Name Comments:
Gunnvor silfraharr (Orle) at 2023-11-03 11:23:15
The headmatter says "Submitter desires a feminine name." then goes on to document the given name as masculine. There's a disconnect there that needs to be cleared up.
Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha (Ragged Staff) at 2023-11-03 11:43:18
We have a temporal issue here. Even with name elements in the same regional family or in the same language, you cannot have more than 500 years between name elements. Taghdan's last dating is 996. The citation for O Brian is 1601, which is more than 500 years apart.
We could do a more Gaelic form of the name, with Taghdan mac Briain, which is the correct genitive form. We have Brian on its own much more contemporary in Index of Names in Irish Annals: Brian, by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan - https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Brian.shtml
Sigrun Sveinungsdóttir í Biarká (Asterisk) at 2023-11-08 10:17:30
Client is willing to go with the Gaelic Taghdan mac Briain and client approved updating the form to show gender of name preferred to- Dont care .. this should alleviate any of that problem - Thank you all for the onomastic help for this client <3 They are much appreciative!
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8: Xrotabell Simond -New Name (NP)
Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes. The following changes are allowed: None
Submitted through the Barony of Bordermarch
Xrotabell > https://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/parishes/parishes.html
Xrotabell *[sic] 1 1598 DSM
Simond > https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juetta/parish/surnames.html
Simond DSN 1540
Name Comments:
Iago ab Adam (Wreath) at 2023-11-03 10:29:36
Xrotabell is a scribal abbreviation for Christabell, using 'Xr' as the equivalent for 'chi rho' in 'Christ'. We don't typically register scribal abbreviations.
Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha (Ragged Staff) at 2023-11-03 11:44:41
The author of the article has a note in the beginning that tells us that the asterisk next to a name shows it has a scribal abbreviation. This is why reading the headmatter is important.
Iago ab Adam (Wreath) at 2023-11-03 11:51:11
A note like "Names with an asterisk following them are scribal abbreviations."? That's already there.
Jeanne Marie Lacroix (Palimpsest) at 2023-11-05 04:51:09
I think you misread Ragged Staff's comment. They were pointing out that the introduction to the article contained that note, not that the note needed to be added.
Iago ab Adam (Wreath) at 2023-11-05 09:41:10
No, Ragged Staff edited her comment. It originally read: "We need a note in that article then, about the scribal abbreviations used."
Sigrun Sveinungsdóttir í Biarká (Asterisk) at 2023-11-06 11:28:43
Client has made contact , and she will gladly accept the Name Crystabella - 1597MHE ~ adjustment will be made to the form before External letter is sent up.
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Thank You to all of the Heralds who provide insightful and constructive commentary for our consideration ~ Huzzah to all who continue to do amazing consultation in the Art of Heraldry and Onomastics. Hat tip to: Those Heralds who continue to "Show Up" on places like the Unofficial Heraldic Consultation FB Page! Your sharing of Knowledge and Helping those in the fields of Heraldry is Exemplary ! Thank you for your Service ! Keep Rocking the Black Star !! Always in Service HL Sigrun Sveinungsdóttir í Biarká she/her/they Asterisk Herald Ansteorra
OSCAR counts 5 Names, 4 Devices and 2 Badges. There are a total of 11 items submitted on this letter.Site News
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