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An Tir LoI from Tir Righ dated 2023-09-23

Unto Dame Emma Fetherstan, Laurel Queen of Arms; Viscountess Elisabetta Tommaso di Carduci, Pelican Queen of Arms; Daunt Iago ab Adam, Wreath King of Arms; and all esteemed members of the College of Arms does Vémundr Syvursson, Red Flame Herald, send greetings!

This Principality of Tir Righ External combines our Tir Righ Internals of July 20th and August 20th for a variety of schedule-related reasons.

Thanks as always to the many commenters on our Internals, especially for their assistance with the name items, up to and including entirely redocumenting whole name submissions.

It is my privilege and pleasure to offer up the following items for consideration.


1: Andreyus bin Lazari - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Azure, a chevron argent overall a natural tiger rampant proper maintaining a sewing needle and in chief two hearts argent.

The following changes are allowed: Most everything, I want to keep Lazari as part of it though
Client requests authenticity for 16th C Turkish.
Sound (Something easy to pronounce) most important.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Thornwold.

"Sixteenth Century Turkish Names" Ursula Whitcher: https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/ottoman/

Specifically the full list of names: https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/ottoman/turkishnames.html

Gives us:

Andreyus (zimmi, i.e. Christian or Jewish)

Nikola bin Lazari (not Muslim)

Per Sixteenth-Century Turkish Names, Turkish names in-period use Arabic construction, bin being "son of".

Thanks to various commenters for the help on this one, hopefully the above summary does your contributions justice.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Thornwold.

Plain English blazon on the submission form is, "A rampant tiger holding a sewing needle on a blue ackground with a white chevron and two white hearts"

Anéžka Blue Tyger pointed out that this submission might have a charge group issue with an overall charge maintaining a much smaller charge, per Appendix I5. I will be honest with the College and say that I have not had the spare time to investigate the precedents myself, so we are letting this one go through to Wreath's judgement and will advise the submitter as needed if a resub becomes necessary.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-08-19/21-18-49_Andreyus_Name_documentation.jpg


2: Anthony Hawke - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2000, via An Tir.

Gnaeus Antonius Accipiter Pavo

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
The following changes are allowed: Allow switching of cognomen and agnoment; keeping Accipter more important than Pavo
Client requests authenticity for mid to late Imperial Roman.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Seagirt.

This name got no commentary on our Internal so we appeal to any Roman name experts in the wider College for their eyes and expertise.

Note that this was submitted on the old v3 2012 name forms, which is still acceptable until December 2023 per Laurel's directives.

Gnaeus - found in A Simple Guide to Imperial Roman Names, Ursula Georges

Antonius - found in A Simple Guide to Imperial Roman Names, Ursula Georges

https://heraldry.sca.org/names/roman.html

Accipiter 'bird of prey, falcon, hawk' is intended as a cognomen based on the common noun found in Little and Short, A Latin Dictionary. The pattern of using birds as cognomina is found in G.D. Chase, The Origin of Roman Praenomina: III. The Cognomina, Harvard Studies in Classical Philology, Vol 8 1897, p 113 https://archive.org/details/jstor-310491 Examples are Merula 'blackbird', Corvus 'raven', and Buteo 'hawk'.

Note: Should Accipiter not be found acceptable, submitter will accept Buteo in the cognomen (third) name slot.

Pavo is a cognomen meaning peacock, found in the "Epigraphic Database Heidelberg" from the northern region of Italy https://edh.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/edh/inschrift/HD005261 - The transcription is L CEIVS PAVO :: We also have the cognomen in an article from Steele, August 12, 2021. doi:10.2307/4387594 - see attached image.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4387594?seq=4#metadata_info_tab_content

An example of a period name with an agnomen (4th name element) is Pubilius Cornelius Scipio Africanus (popularly known as Scipio Africanus)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-08-19/20-56-23_Anthony_Hawke-Name-6122-attached-1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-08-19/20-56-23_Anthony_Hawke-Name-6122-attached-2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-08-19/20-56-23_Anthony_Hawke-Name-6122-EXTRA.jpg


3: Ciarán Ó Murchadha - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Per bend sable and gules, a lynx passant and a sheaf of arrows argent.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Cold Keep.

Ciarán - Old & Middle Gaelic nominative form, c700 thru to c1200 CE.

Murchadha - Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c1200-c1700) genitive form of Murchadh or Murchad

Both names found in "Index of Names in Irish Annals" by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, non-photocopy per AH App H.

https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Ciaran.shtml

https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Murchad.shtml

<given name> Ó <genitive form of ancenstor's name> is the standard way to form a name using an Irish clan affiliation byname per Quick and Easy Gaelic Names, Sharon L Krossa http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Cold Keep.

No conflicts found during Internal commentary.


4: Etienne Racine - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Per pale sable and gules, three potato blossoms and a chief embattled argent.

Language/Culture (French 14th C) most important.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Lions Gate.

Etienne is a French masculine given name from 1327:

https://dmnes.org/cite/Etienne/1327/MemDocMan-2

(DMNES, S.L. Uckelman, ed)

Racine is a French surname from 1340:

https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/frenchbynames.pdf

pg 168 of "DRAFT:Bynames in Medieval France", S.L. Uckelman

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Lions Gate.

Submitter prefers the blazon "potato blossoms" vs cinquefoil or equivalent, due to the cant on Racine (root).


5: Geirhildr Vilhjálmsdóttir - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Quarterly gules and sable, a goat clymant contourny argent.

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Hartwood.

Both first and last names are in GB's Old Norse Names (2nd Ed).

Geirhildr, female name, p17

Vilhjálmr, masculine name, p23.

Patronymic construction follow the rules on p25.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Hartwood.

A minor typo in the blazon was found and fixed during Internal commentary. No conflicts found in Internal commentary.


6: Geirhildr Vilhjálmsdóttir - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Helga Vilhjálmsdóttir

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Hartwood.

Both names from GB's Old Norse Names (2nd ed)

Helga, female name, p18.

Vilhjálmr, male name, p23

Patronymic construction rules from p25 followed.

Vilhjálm was the originally submitted male name to become the patronymic but GB shows Vilhjálmr with the terminal R. Palimpsest & Orle both agreed the patronymic is, however, correctly constructed as Vilhjálmsdóttir.


7: Geirhildr Vilhjálmsdóttir - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Thomas Fellow

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Hartwood.

This exact name can be found several times in the Family Search DB in the late 16th C.

"England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991",database, Family Search - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDZW-6YF - Thomas Fellow, 1581. Batch B07304-7

"England Marriages, 1538-1973", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NV7S-WXT : 12 March 2020), Thomas Fellow, 1580. Batch M00998-7

"England Marriages, 1538-1973", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V526-D8W : 12 March 2020), Thomas Fellow, 1561. Batch M00160-1


8: Malyss Makneile - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2021, via An Tir.

Niclas Mellis Szkot

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language/Culture (Scot in Poland) most important.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Lions Gate.

All name resources found in "Scots in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, 16th - 18th Centuries: The Formation and Disappearance of an Ethnic Group" (Bajer, Peter Paul, 2023)(SPLC)

Niclas found in 1648 in Gdansk, SPLC Appendix II

Mellis found in 1641 in Gdansk, SPLC Appendix II

Szkot found in 1644 in Wilno, SPLC Appendix VII

Per SENA App A, double bynames are a recognized pattern in Polish.

This was originally submitted with a lowercase "szkot" but in Internal commentary Alicia le Wilfulle pointed out the provided source material only supports the uppercase Szkot for the second byname.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-07-19/23-18-13_Malyss_name1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-07-19/23-18-14_Malyss_name2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-07-19/23-18-14_Malyss_name3.png
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-07-19/23-18-14_Malyss_name4.jpg


9: Nadezhda Toranova - New Device Change (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2001, via An Tir.

Azure, three masks Or

Old Item: Sable, a cross moline argent, in canton a bezant., to be retained as a badge.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Seagirt.

This device and the badge submitted along with it are the first submission and therefore defining instance of such a leather mask.

From the GIM Historical Museum, Russia:

http://nav.shm.ru/en/exhibits/1443/

Partial excerpt from that page:

Novgorod

The second half of the XIII century

A cattle's leather; a cutting out technique

13,5 x 15 cm

From: found by the archeological expedition to Novgorod led by A.B. Artsikhovsky; donated to the museum in 1967.

The mask depicts a laughing human face, which is emphasized by the narrowed slits for the eyes and the highly raised corners of the mouth with the exposed lower line of the teeth.

In Internal commentary there was discussion of what this previously unsubmitted charge would conflict with, general consensus being the more common masks of comedy/tragedy.

If blazoned as a "leather mask" to more reliably differentiate this from the standard comedy/tragedy masks, per SENA A2B4b Other Artifacts this might carry a Step from Core Practice if these leather masks were not considered "general, everyday artifacts". https://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A2B4b

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-08-19/21-15-07_Nadezhda_Documentation.jpg


10: Nadezhda Toranova - New Badge (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2001, via An Tir.

(Fieldless) A mask Or charged on the sinister cheek with a goutte de sang.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Seagirt.

This badge and the device submitted along with it are the first submission and therefore defining instance of such a leather mask.

From the GIM Historical Museum, Russia:

http://nav.shm.ru/en/exhibits/1443/

Partial excerpt from that page:

Novgorod

The second half of the XIII century

A cattle's leather; a cutting out technique

13,5 x 15 cm

From: found by the archeological expedition to Novgorod led by A.B. Artsikhovsky; donated to the museum in 1967.

The mask depicts a laughing human face, which is emphasized by the narrowed slits for the eyes and the highly raised corners of the mouth with the exposed lower line of the teeth

In Internal commentary there was discussion of what this previously unsubmitted charge would conflict with, general consensus being the more common masks of comedy/tragedy.

If blazoned as a "leather mask" to more reliably differentiate this from the standard comedy/tragedy masks, per SENA A2B4b Other Artifacts this might carry a Step from Core Practice if these leather masks were not considered "general, everyday artifacts". https://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A2B4b

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-08-19/21-16-36_Nadezhda_Documentation.jpg


11: Richard Abbot - New Name (KLoI) (NP)

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Krakafjord.

Richard is a masculine given name found in England in the DMNES dated in this spelling to several years between 1245 and 1599 (https://dmnes.org/name/Richard).

Abbot is an English byname found in R&W s.n. Abbatt: Walter Abbot, 12th century; Peter le Abbot 1237.


12: Ro Magdalena Freyin - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Per fess sable and azure, three crescents in pall Or.

Language/Culture (German) most important.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Lions Gate

All name elements are documented from articles by Aryanhwy merch Catmael.

Ro and Magdalena are feminine given names found in "German Names from 1495", https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/german1495.html. This data is from the Baden-Württemberg area. Per SENA App A, double-given names are a pattern requiring no further documentation for German.

Freyin is based on Frey, which is found in "German Names from 1495: Surnames", https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/surnames1495a-g.html. "Women's Surnames in 15th- and 16th-Century Germany", https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/womenssurnames.html, shows that feminine bynames were frequently formed by adding -in to the byname in High German dialects. Examples from the Baden-Württemberg area included Pfeifferin (from Pfeiffer), Kyferin (from Kyfer), and Schefferin (from Scheffer).

Our thanks to Palimpsest in our Internal, who re-documented this submission, and we can do no better than copy-paste her much improved version.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Lions Gate.

There was discussion in the Internal about the positioning and blazon of the three crescents. The alternate blazon of "Per fess sable and azure, a decrescent, a crescent pendant, and a crescent bendwise Or" was provided.

Malyss Lions Blood provided a link to Scheibler's Armorial (https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/details/bsb00007174) and pointed out the submitted emblazon thus follows a period design and arrangement. See Image #1 attached or this direct link to p262 of the scan: https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/view/bsb00007174?page=262

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2636/2023-09-23/17-31-21_Ro_M_crescents.png


13: Ysabell de Cunningham - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2019, via An Tir.

Katherine de Cunningham

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Tir Righ submission

Submitter is from Cold Keep.

Katherine - Scots. Perth, Scotland . 1464. PGB. A. Brown, R. Le Get, N. Shiel, J. Uckelman, S.L. Uckelman. "Katherine". In S.L. Uckelman, ed. The Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources, Edition 2023, no. 1. http://dmnes.org/2023/1/name/Katherine

"de Cunningham" is previously registered to the submitter as 13th C Scots.

This was posted to our Internal as a New Alternate Name Change but that was a filing error on my part. It is simply a New Alternate Name. I think I finally have the correct selections made in OSCAR for this External.

Correction to Alternate Name (2023-Oct-12 22:10:07): Apparently I did not, in fact, find the correct OSCAR tick boxes. This is NOT a New Alternate Name Change, it is in fact supposed to be simply a New Alternate Name.

Apologies for the mis-filing.


In Heraldic Service,

Vémundr Syvursson

Red Flame Herald

Pily barry argent and azure.


OSCAR counts 6 New Names, 5 New Alternate Names, 5 New Devices, 1 New Device Change and 1 New Badge. These 18 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $72 for them. There are a total of 18 items submitted on this letter.

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