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East LoI dated 2023-03-22

Greetings unto Emma Laurel, Elisabetta Pelican, and Iago Wreath from Anéžka Blue Tyger, Alys Pantheon, and Sláine Diademe.

It is the intention of the citizens of the East to register the below-listed items.

This item was on the 06-2023 LoAR

1: Dillena o'r Gwyrddol - New Name (KLoI) (NP)

Dillena o'r Gwyrddol

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language/Culture (Welsh) most important.

Dillena is a Welsh feminine given name found in "Snapshot of a Cantref: The Names and Naming Practices in a Mawddwy Court Roll of 1415-16" by Tanwgystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://heatherrosejones.com/names/welsh/mawddwy1415.html).

o'r Gwyrddol is a Welsh byname intended to mean "of/from the green." Tanwgystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, Names and Naming Practices in the Merioneth Lay Subsidy Roll 1292-3 (Y Camamseriad, Issue 1, 1992, p. 78) gives examples of four toponymic bynames in this form: or dol, Orellyn (o'r Llyn), Vrnant (o'r Nant) and or pant. The locative terms in these cases are generic toponyms (meadow, lake stream, valley).

Submitted at Kingdom as o'r Gwyrdd, this name was not grammatically correct as a Welsh toponym. Gwyrdd is a period Welsh word meaning the color green, per the Dictionary of Welsh Language (https://welsh-dictionary.ac.uk/gpc/gpc.html, image attached), rather than a place like a village green. However, Tangwystl's "Period Welsh Models for SCA Households and the Nomenclature Thereof" (http://heatherrosejones.com/welshhouseholdname/feature...) states that: "There are a number of adjectives that are commonly found in the first position in compounds (an order that is "normal" for compounds although it defies normal word order). These, with the geographic terms found following them, include" a number of color-words, including the more common glas which modernly means blue but can be used to refer to both green and blue. We can therefore in theory construct gwyrddol as a toponym meaning "green meadow," and follow the toponymic pattern above to create the byname o'r Gwyrddol.

The submitter has given approval for this change to their name, and we wish to thank Nest Crane and Alys Ogress for their work on this item.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/images/cImages/2948/2023-03-22/16-17-22_gwyrdd.png


This item was on the 06-2023 LoAR

2: East, Kingdom of the - New Order Name (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 1973, .

Order of Tygers Eye

Sound (like 'tiger eye') most important.

This order follows the attested pattern of saint's name + object of veneration (usually a heraldic charge). By precedent, "we can allow order names following the pattern saint + other or saint + object of veneration to omit the word Saint before the possessive form of the given name." [Carillion, Barony of. Order name Order of Irons Bell, 11/2014 LoAR, A-East]

Order is a standard designator for order names found in Appendix E.

Tyger is a late 16th century/early 17th century English surname that can be used as a given name. It is found in FamilySearch Historical Records as follows:

Judith Tyger; Female; Christening; 23 Apr 1598; St Dunstan in the East, London, England; Batch: P00143-1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NP1H-FH9)
Sisely Tyger; Female; Marriage; 11 Mar 1644; St Bartholomew the Less, London, England; Batch: M15108-1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVLY-8J9)

The spelling Tiger is also found in grey-period England:

Susanna Tiger; Female; Christening; 29 Mar 1609; Fowey, Cornwall, England; Batch: C02326-2 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJYS-XM4)
Manuel Tiger; Male; Christening; 29 Mar 1609; Fowey, Cornwall, England; Batch: C02326-2 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSDG-K4Y)

As the i/y swap in Early Modern English is well-attested, these citations also support the requested Tyger.

An eye is a period heraldic charge, per the Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry s.n. Eye (https://mistholme.com/dictionary/eye/).


This item was on the 06-2023 LoAR

3: Joel Messerer - New Device (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2017, via the East.

Argent, a dragon's head bendwise couped vert breathing flames proper, on a chief vert three kitchen knives argent


This item was on the 06-2023 LoAR

4: Karl Falchner - New Device (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2004, via the East.

Per saltire sable and vert, a falcon displayed argent

Kingdom commenters questioned whether this depiction is clearly a falcon and not an eagle, given the feathering on the back of the head and the lack of jesses/bells. Given the cant with Falchner, we believe it is sufficiently clear that no redraw is required.


This item was on the 06-2023 LoAR

5: Nina di Ivrea - Resub Device (KLoI)

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2020, via the East.

Argent, a cicada vert and on a chief azure three pears slipped and leaved Or

A previous submission of this device (see below) was returned on the January 2020 LoAR due to the position of the cicada's wings. We believe that this depiction of a cicada matches the documentation previously provided, in that the wings have been shifted so that the body can be seen from the top of the head to the tip of the thorax.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/images/cImages/2948/2023-03-20/11-00-14_13-04-00_Nina_di_Ivrea_RETURNED.jpg


This item was on the 06-2023 LoAR

6: Paddy Panekake - New Name (KLoI) (NP) & New Device (KLoI)

Or, on a bend sable between a trefoil vert and a frying pan sable three bezants

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound (byname like 'pancake') most important.

Paddy is a grey-period English surname that can be used as a given name. It is found in the FamilySearch Historical Records as follows:

James Paddy; Male; Marriage; 15 Jun 1628; Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England; Batch: M01025-2 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N21N-335)
Samuell Paddy; Male; Death; 13 Jun 1620; Lynsted, Canterbury, Kent, England; Batch: B05318-2 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZG3-448)
Ann Paddy; Female; Christening; 11 Dec 1631; Tallington, Lincolnshire, England; Batch: C03233-2 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGPX-196)

Panekake is an English surname found in the Middle English Dictionary s.v. panne-cake dated to 1283.

During Kingdom commentary, Lilie Ragged Staff also found the spelling Pancake in FamilySearch:

Joanne Pancake, Burial, 19 Aug 1576, St. Botolph Aldgate, London, England, Batch: B00047-6 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC9D-287)
The submitter had not responded to contact from the Blue Tyger office regarding making this change to the spelling by the time this letter was published, so we are preserving the originally-submitted spelling and noting the additional data here.


This item was on the 06-2023 LoAR

7: Siobhán inghean uí Ghadhra - New Alternate Name (KLoI) (NP)

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Siobh?n inghean u? Ghadhra in October of 2016, via the East.

Siobhán the Harper

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.

Siobhán is a feminine given name found 22 times in "The Index of Names in Irish Annals" by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/S...) dated 1310 - 1600.

the Harper is intended as a lingua Societatis form of Gaelic byname Cruitire found in "The Index of Names in Irish Annals (https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Descriptiv...) dated 700 - 900. While this byname is found in the Annals solely without an accompanying article, it is glossed in the Index as the Harper, which we feel is sufficient for benefit of the doubt.


Done at Carolingia upon the feast of saint Paul of Narbonne,

Anéžka Blue Tyger


OSCAR counts 2 New Names, 1 New Alternate Name, 1 New Order Name and 3 New Devices. These 7 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $28 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Device. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 8 items submitted on this letter.

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