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Atlantia LoP dated 2019-11-14

Unto Eldred Triton and the Atlantian College of Heralds, Greetings!

Herein for your perusal and commentary are all items received by November 10, aside from the submissions received from War of the Wings, which will be on the next Letter. Commentary on this Letter will close December 13.

1: Ælfric Ecgeling -New Name & New Device

Or, a cross vert, overall a caucasian satyr sable affonty, maintaining a pen azure.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.
Language most important.
Culture most important.
Meaning most important.

Ælfric: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Aelfric-Anglo-Saxon-scholar

The name Ecgeling is a geographic type name, meaning "person from Eggleston."

Ecgel--: https://egglestonparishcouncil.com/home/history/

--ling: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ling

Consulting Herald: Geneviefve Green Shark


2: Aiden Kilkenny -New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Per pale azure and sable, a dragon rampant tail to base between two arrows, dexter arrow point to base sinister arrow point too chief argent.

Consulting Herald: Wynne Blue Shark


3: Andrzej Alekiewicz -New Name & New Device

Per bend embattled vert and argent, a gauntleted left-hand and a seahorse unicornate counter-changed.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

Andrzej - Masculine given name form of "Andrew" Polish Given Names in Nazwiska Polaków https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/walraven/polish/#masc and Andrzej found during 1514-29, 1520, 1528 "A Preliminary Survey of Names from the Historical Dictionary of Personal Names in Bialystok" by Lillia de Vaux (Rebecca S. Johnson).

Alekiewicz - Masculine given name form of "Alexander" Polish Given Names in Nazwiska Polaków https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/walraven/polish/Patronymic "wicz" added meaning "son of Aleksander"

Consulting Herald: Wynne Blue Shark


4: Benjamin Middle -New Name & New Device

Argent, on a pile between two swords in pile sable, a sun in his splendor Or.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound most important.

Benjamin Masculine given name, found via DMNES, http://dmnes.org/name/Benjamin. Found with this spelling in English to 1587.

A male given name found in "Late 16th C English Given Names" by Talan Gwynek (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/eng16/eng16.html)

Middle An English surname Richaed le Midel 1288, Oxfordshire; Simonatte Middele 1327, Somerset; A Dictionary of English Surnames 3rd edition pg 308 between "Mews" and "Middleton"

Consulting Herald: Wynne Blue Shark

Packet contains a Letter of Permission to conflict:

"I, (redacted), known in the SCA as Dona Tirzah MacCrudden give (redacted) known in the SCA as Benjamin Middle permission for his armory"to look similar to, but not identical to, my armory," I understand that this permission cannot be withdrawn once (redacted)'s armory is registered."

Letter is signed with Tirzah's mundane name, and dated October 11, 2019


5: Brian Fitz Gerald -Resub Badge

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Brian fitz Gerald in October of 2013, via Atlantia.

Argent, a spiral gridiron sable, a bordure gules

Consulting Herald: Geneviefve Green Shark

Submission History:

This is a resubmission after the December 2018 Laurel return of "(Fieldless) A spiral iron sable":

"This badge is returned for conflict with the badge of Christopher Calhoune, (Fieldless) A spoon sable, and with the device of Musa-Æstriþ Þorvalðzdottir, Per bend sinister argent and azure, a frying pan palewise sable. In both cases, there is one DC for fieldlessness. The spiral iron is both visually and functionally similar to a frying pan, both being flat, round, long-handled tools set upon open flame to cook food set in/atop them. A spoon, likewise, is a culinary tool with a circular functional piece attached to a handle. As spiral irons are not a known heraldic charge, they do not enjoy the benefits of assumed difference from other attested heraldic charges in period.

This would have been the defining instance of a spiral iron, or spiral gridiron. It is a period tool from Scandinavia used to grill meats, similar to the more commonly known gridiron. Given their notably different shapes, there is likely a DC between a spiral iron and a gridiron."


6: Cáemfind ingen Chobthaig -New Transfer of Badge

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as C?emfind ingen Chobthaig in February of 1994, via Atlantia.

(Fieldless) A beehive Or.

"I, (redacted), known in the SCA as Caemfind ingen Chobthaig, do transfer to (redacted), known in the SCA as Heloise de Bruyeres, the following badge "(Fieldless) A beehive Or.". I understand that this transfer cannot be withdrawn once made."

Letter is signed with submitter's legal name and dated 06/21/2019


7: Ceara Weaver -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Spelling (spelling of first name only) most important.

Ceara: Irish Names by Ó Corrain and Maguire, s.n. Cera, documents this as a saint's name and gives the Early Modern Irish form as Ceara.

Weaver, from Old English wefan "to weave, a weaver"

Submitter will also accept "Webber" as a byname.

The Textile Industry in Essex in the late 12th and 13th Century by Michael Gervers

as cited in

12th & 13th Century English Textile Surnames by Aryanhwy merch Catmael https://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/textile.html retrieved 9/3/19

Consulting Herald: Hagar the Black


8: Charles Fleming -Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2001, via Atlantia.

fieldless, a spit sable bendwise overall a roast chicken sable enflamed. Note that the flames are intended to be proper, with no particular tincture.

This submission is to be associated with Maison du Poulet Noir

Submission History:

This is a resubmission after the April 2019 Laurel return of (Fieldless) A roasting spit bendwise sable transfixing a roasting chicken bendwise sable enflamed proper:

"This badge is returned for blurring the distinction between charge groups. The roasting chicken, though presented in the submitted blazon as a transfixed overall charge, dominates the design as one would expect of a primary charge and nearly totally obscures the nominally primary roasting spit.

Had it been registered, this would have been the defining instance of a roasting spit. A roasting spit is a large metal skewer which hangs meat over a fire. One end of the skewer has a crank-like handle for turning the meat for even cooking. It's a period heraldic charge, found in the canting arms of De Rostis, depicted once in the Insignia urbium Italiae (BSB270, f361r) and again in the Stemmario Trivulziano. In the former, the skewer holds three nondescript lumps of meat, while the latter depicts only one. Meat is therefore an integral identifying feature of the charge, covering between 1/5 and 1/3 of the overall length of the spit.

A spit with a specific piece of meat (as opposed to the vague lumps of meat) may be accepted on a case-by-case basis, though the carcass will need to be both readily identifiable by type and small enough to take up no more than 1/3 of the overall length of the spit.

Upon resubmission, please thicken the roasting spit and shrink the carcass to the ratios described above."


9: Conall mac Aohda mhic Reamoinn -Resub Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Argent, three phoenixes and a bordure embattled sable

Consulting Herald: Etienne Sea Stag

Submission History:

This is a resubmission after the June 2019 Kingdom return of Argent, on a pellet a phoenix argent, a bordure embattled sable:

"Unfortunately, this must be returned for conflict with the device of Jón Eiríksson, "Argent, a roundel and a bordure embattled sable," registered through An Tir in February, 2002 ("Argent, a roundel and a bordure embattled sable.") We apologize for not catching this conflict the first time through."


10: Demetrios Argyros -New Name

No major changes.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

Demetrios: "Names of 14th-15th C. Thassalonian Lesser Aristocrats," by Andrea Hicks. https://s-gabriel.org/names/maridonna/thessalonian.html

-"Demetrios" is found with this spelling, the earliest dated to 1327

"Personal Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the Later Byzantine Era - Masculine Given Names," by Bardas Xiphias https://heraldry.sca.org/names/byzantine/masc_given_names.html

- "Demetrios" is found with this spelling, dated to 1244

Argyros: "Personal Names of the Aristocracy in the ROman Empire During the Later Byzantine Era - Family Names," by Bardas Xiphias http://heraldry.sca.org/names/byzantine/family_names.html#family_names

-"Argyros" is found with this spelling, n.d.

"Prosopography of the Byzantine World" https://pbw2016.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/person/Romanos/3/

- Family name of Byzantine Emperor Romanos III, died 1043

Argyros: Used by Byzantine noble family until the 15th century.

Kazhdan, Alexander (1991). "Argyros". In Kazhdan, Alexander (ed.). The Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium. New York and Oxford: Oxford University Press. p. 165

Consulting Herald: Johanna le Paumer


11: Edwin Munro -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2005, via Atlantia.

Gules, a saltire and on a chief argent three roses gules.

Consulting Herald: Geneviefve Green Shark


12: Finne Breth -New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Atlantia LoI of October 31, 2019 as submitted.

Per chevron argent and vert, 2 ravens displayed regardant sable and a spear head argent. On a chief vert, 3 escallops inverted argent.

Consulting Herald: James of Carinthia


13: Freydís Róðmarsdóttir -New Name & New Device

Per Chevron Or and Gules, two compass roses gules and a wolf statant guardant argent.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Spelling most important.

Freydis: is listed on p. 70 in Nordiskt runnamnslexikon by Lena Peterson (http://www.sprakochfolkminnen.se/om-oss/arkiv-och-samlingar/nordiskt-runnamnslexikon.html).

Freydis is also listed in Old Norse Women's Names by Gunnvôr silfrahárr s.n. Freydis, Frødis (http://vikinganswerlady.com/ONWomensNames.shtml): "The OW.Norse form of this name is Freydís. Found in a runic inscription in the nominative form frauxtis.

The name Freydís is found in Eiriks saga rauða (http://www.snerpa.is/net/isl/eirik.htm), c. late 1100's, and in Grænlendinga saga (http://www.snerpa.is/net/isl/graens.htm) (1382-1395) for the daughter of Eiríkrrauðr. Freydís is a feminine name (marked "OW Norse") found under Frødis in Gunnora Silfraharr's translation of Nordiskt by Lena Peterson (linked from http://www.2-gabriel.org/names/nrl.shtml). Academy of S. Gabriel report 2487 (http://www.s-gabriel.org/2487) identifies Freydis as the daughter of Erik the Red, based on Lind s.n. Freydís and on Kruken, Kristoffer, ed.: Norsk personnamnleksikon, 2nd ed. (Oslo: det Norske Samlaget, 1995), s.n. Frøydis

Róðmarr: is found in "Nordiskt runnamnslexikon Dictionary of Names from Scandinavian Runic Inscriptions" by Lena Peterson.

According to "The Old Norse Name" the patronymic is form by removing the -rr and adding -rs at the end of the Father's give name.

Submitter is claiming family to Þórhild Róðmarsdóttir as in sharing the same father.

Consulting Herald: Þórhild Róðmarsdóttir


14: Hallgrimr Brandson -New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Per pale wavy azure and vert, a tower Or and a bear rampant argent.

Consulting Herald: Wynne Blue Shark


15: Heloise de Bruyeres -New Acceptance of Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2016, via Atlantia.

(Fieldless) A beehive Or.

"I, (redacted), known in the SCA as Heloise de Bruyeres, do accept from (redacted), known in the SCA as Caemfind ingen Chobthaig the following:

A badge: Fieldless, a beehive Or."

Letter is dated 8/27/19 and signed with the submitter's legal name


16: Hextilda Violet MacLean -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for 15th-16th Scottish.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

Hextilda - heraldry.sca.org - feminine names in Scottish Records

Violet - "

MacLean - The Clan Maclean takes its name from its first chief, Gillean na Tuaighe. The name "Maclean" literally means "son of Gillean" or "son of the servant of [Saint] John."

The first official mention of a Maclean is in a papal dispensation issued by Pope Urban V on May 3rd 1367

source: macleanhistory.org/history/origins-of-the-clan/ retrieved 9/5/19

Consulting Herald: Hagar the Black


17: Jenefer de Winter -New Name & New Device

Ermine, three roses and a bordure wavy azure.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.

Jenefer Family Search finds "Jenefer Stenglin" female, 28 August, 1558, christened at Eltingen, Württemberg, Germany; BATCH # C91673-1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCSW-C48

de Winter St Gabriel's report 1315 finds "de Winter" between 1250 and 1400 in the Low Countries from Beele, Wilfried, "Studie van de leperse Persoonsnamen uit de Stads-en Bajuwsrekeningen 1250-1400" (Handzame, 1975), entry 3038, p. 80 (http://www.s-gabriel.org/1315) AND family Search finds "Magdeleene De Winter," 16 Mar 1595, Evangelisch, Frankenthal, Pfalz, Bavaria, K98429-1, (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NP8S-D4T)

Consulting Herald: Wynne Blue Shark


18: Juan de Zaragoza -New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in October of 2016, via Atlantia.

Old Item: Juan de Rojo, to be released.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Meaning (from Zaragoza) most important.

Juan (prior name allowance): Juan de Rojo m. 1621 Spain

- FamilySearch batch M862471: https://familysearch.org/ark:161893/1:1:FF6V-JBG

de Zaragoza:

- FamilySearch batch C86276-1 Catalina de Zaragoza Chr. 1562 Spain. https://familysearch.org/ark:161903/1:1:FXY2-LHC


19: Katrein Töpffer -New Name Change & New Device

OSCAR NOTE: 'Old Item' should contain the former primary name. The form that is there is not a registered name.

Argent, a fess wavy between two snail shells and an octopus azure.

Old Item: Catrion ni Raghaillach, to be released.

Katrein diminutive of "Katharina" Buhlow 2nd ed., pg 206, between Kasbohrer and Kauba

Töpffer FamilySearch Katharina Töpffer female, christening 24 May 1559, Evangelisch, Brackenheim, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg and Jacobus Töpffers male, 21 Jul 1594, Konigsberg in Neumark, Brandenburg, Prussia.

Consulting Herald: Wynne Blue Shark


20: Maelgwn Morgant -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2015, via Atlantia.

Per Bend azure and gules, A griffin argent And a cheif or a key guiles

Consulting Herald: JEC


21: Ormarr Raumsson -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 1996, via Atlantia.

Sable, four annulets bendwise sinister Or.

Consulting Herald: JEC


22: Siegfried Schmitt -New Name & New Device

Per chevron throughout argent and azure two tricunes sable and a talbot rampant argent spotted sable.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Siegfried: Found in Late Period German Masculine GIven Names Names from 14th Century Plauen by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/germmasc/plauen14.html

Schmitt: Found in multiple entries in FamilySearch:

Friderich Schmitt, married 4 Nov 1650, Evangelisch, Waldlaubersheim, Rheinland, Prussia; Batch Number M96473-1 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1"1"JHSL-M35

Maria Schmitt married 5 Nov 1650; Evangelishc, Waldlaubersheim, Rheinland, Prussia; Batch Number M96473-1 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1"1"JHSL-MB4

Anna Margaretha Schmitt, christened 22 Feb 1650; Erkelenz, Rheinland, Preussen, Germany; Batch Number C39510-1 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1"1"NNR8-GLZ

Consulting Herald: Etienne Sea Stag

Consulting Herald: Þorhild Róðmarsdottir


23: Sven Fenrirson -New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Per pale vert & gules, between two wolf heads in fess respectant, a battle axe argent.

Consulting Herald: Mark Lothian ap Lyonesse


In service to College and Kingdom,

Beatrice Golden Dolphin


OSCAR counts 9 Names, 2 Name Changes, 14 Devices and 3 Badges. There is 1 transfer.There is 1 acceptance. There are a total of 30 items submitted on this letter.

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