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Lochac KLoI dated 2019-08-24

Unto the Lochac College of Heralds does Lord Bjǫrn Bjarnylr Bassason ór Bjarneyu, Rocket Herald, being submissions deputy to the noble Lady Amanda Martel, Crux Australis Principal Herald of the majestic and seagirt Kingdom of Lochac, send Greetings!

A few of these items have been submitted in some unfortunately difficult formats. These are usually things that I can relatively comfortably remedy for the purposes of uploading to OSCAR, but it does reduce the attention I can give each submission.

All forms need to be in JPEG format, between 2330-2700 x 3150-4350 resolution, and 300dpi or they won't be accepted by OSCAR. The Lochac electronic forms (found at http://herald.lochac.sca.org/forms/submissions/) comfortably fit into this range at 2550x3300. When you edit these forms, please ensure that whatever image-editing software you use doesn't alter the file format, dpi, or resolution outside of acceptable tolerances.

Because these forms have to come in an image format, please send the textual information in the form along with the submission. All of the documentation and whatnot has to be entered into OSCAR and manually formatted, so I distinctly appreciate any submitters/consulting heralds who save me from the arduous task of re-typing out documentation that they've already typed. Similarly, please include any scans as separate image files. They don't have to be on the form itself. It won't really hurt or help whether they are on the form or not, but there needs to be a separate file to upload to OSCAR.

I've got a few more of these, especially "this isn't necessary, but it would make my job easier" ones, but I'll leave them to a later date rather than over-encumbering this letter with them all.

If you feel like your emails to Rocket are kind of like shouting into the void, I'm sorry about that. I'm going to work on being more responsive to submissions, rather than just silently dumping them on OSCAR and moving on. The more submissions I receive with the above, the easier that will be.

So, without further ado,

It is our intent to register the following items.

1: Catalÿn Gárdonyi -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.

Consulting Herald Isabella Cordon Rouge
Submitter from Politarchopolis

First Name: Catalÿn
http://heraldry.sca.org/names/magfem2.html

For the surname, the submitter would use the place name convention, with the town of Gárdony, with the additional 'i' at the end, making it Gárdonyi. This is referenced here:
http://heraldry.sca.org/names/magyarnames1012.html#construct

Reference to Gardony found in Études historiques hongroises 1985 p.463
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=mfe3AAAAIAAJ&dq=King+Sigismund,+Gardony&q=Gardony&redir_esc=y

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-24/06-36-19_Catalÿn_Gárdonyi_-_Gardony_estate.jpg


2: Edine Godin -New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2012, via Lochac.

Argent, a seeblatt and on a chief vert three snails to sinister argent.

Old Item: Per saltire azure and argent, four quatrefoils counterchanged, to be retained as a badge.

Consulting Herald Annys Blodwell
Submitter from Krae Glas


3: Edine Godin -New Blanket Permission to Conflict

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2012, via Lochac.

Per saltire azure and argent, four quatrefoils counterchanged.

Consulting Herald Anys Blodwell
Submitter from Krae Glas


4: Edmund Giermundarson -New Name & New Device

Or, three chevronels between three escutcheons sable.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Consulting Herald Gunther Boese
Submitter from Bordescros

Edmund is a 9th Century Old English male given name, St. Edmund, King of East Anglia, as found in Fordham University article "Medieval Sourcebook:

Abbo of Fleury: The Martyrdom of St. Edmund, King of East Anglia, 870".
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/870abbo-edmund.asp?fbclid=IwAR0xv3-Dqfyw5SdlRPmDv-PfFWihbEpsi GrvM_L1u81FDp7uev2p1-pGRow

Giermundr is a male Viking given name found 8 time in the Landnámabók, as per "Viking Names found in Landnámabók" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman).
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html

According to "Viking Answer Lady - Old Norse Names" Norse male given names ending in -mundr can be changed to -mundarson to form a Byname thus Giermundarson is a period norse byname.

Sena appendix C allows for Old English and Scandinavian mixed names.

Consulting Herald Gunther Boese
Submitter from Bordescros

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-17/19-11-09_Edmund_Giermundarson_-_Internet_History_Sourcebooks_Project.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-17/19-11-09_Edmund_Giermundarson_-_Viking_Answer_Lady_Webpage_-_Old_Norse_Names_1.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-17/19-11-09_Edmund_Giermundarson_-_Viking_Answer_Lady_Webpage_-_Old_Norse_Names_5.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-17/19-11-10_Edmund_Giermundarson_-_Viking_Names_found_in_Landnamabok_1.jpg
#5 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-17/19-11-10_Edmund_Giermundarson_-_Viking_Names_found_in_Landnamabok_3.jpg


5: Eiya inn enska -Resub Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Azure, in pale three foxes statant guardant argent.

Consulting Herald Roy Worrall
Submitter is from St Florian

Original submission item 9 of Lochac KLoI dated 2019-05-04
https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=5785#9
Returned for conflict with Cuán MacDaige: Checky azure and Or, in pale three mastiffs courant argent each gorged of a coronet gules.

Resubmitted with PtC from Cuán MacDaige.


6: Eleanor de Foresta -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2016, via Lochac.

Azure, a bend sinister wavy argent between a an etoile and an increscent Or, a bordure argent.

Consulting Herald Eliana Darragone
Submitter from River Haven


7: Erlendr Jafnkollr -New Name & New Device

Per fess sable and azure, conjoined in pale a demi-rondel gules fimbrated argent and a demi-sun eclipsed sable each issuant from the line of division.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language (Norse-Varangian, 9th-11th century) most important.
Culture (Norse-Varangian, 9th-11th century) most important.

Consulting Herald Ingvarr Alefounder
Submitter from Mordenvale

First name: Erlendr was a name referenced on "The Viking Answer Lady" website's page on Old Norse Men's Names (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml). Her source was page 9 of "Geirr Bassi Haraldsson. The Old Norse Name. Studia Marklandica I. Olney, MD: Markland Medieval Militai. 1977."

Second name (Byname): Found in the Landnamabok, with on instance. (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html)

Consulting Herald Ingvarr Alefounder
Submitter from Mordenvale


8: Frances Affrica Ray -New Name

No major changes.

Consulting Herald Gwynneth Blackwing
Submitter from Aneala

Frances: FamilySearch Frances Martin; female; christening; 06 Feb 1592; Timworth, Suffolk, England; batch P01303-1
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQB6-CPX

Affrica: Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland. s.n. "Africa" : "Affrica Makpatrik is again in record in 1525 as daughter of Duncan Macpatric in Cowal", quoted at https://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/gaelicgiven/women/afraig.shtml

Ray: "Names of women mentioned in the Perth Guildry Book 1464-1598" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael gives 4 instances of Ray as a Scots surname. http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/scots/perth.html

Appendices of SENA list English and Scots in the same language group and late period English allows for double given names.


9: Gumuuinus de Eggafridicapella -New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Argent, a bear's head cabossed vert within a bordure denticulada gules.

Submitter from Dragon's Bay


10: Hrafnhildr Jóhansdottir -New Name & New Device

Argent, a raven displayed sable, on a chief azure a comet Or.

Sound (Hrafnhildr) most important.
Spelling (Jóhansdottir) most important.

Consulting Herald Rosalind Cinquefoil
Submitter from Stowe on the Wowld

Hrafnhildr: Hrafnhildr is found as a feminine first name in an article by Gunnvôr silfrahárr which has collated a list of Old Norse Women's Names. (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONWomensNames.shtml)

Jóhansdottir: Jóhann is found as a masculine first name in an article entitled Old Norse Men's Names by Gunnvôr silfrahárr (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml).
Using the guide from Gunnvôr silfrahárr's article entitled Old Norse Names in the section Surname: Patronymics and Matronymics (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONNames.shtml#general_info) the genitive form of Jóhann is Jóhans- which forms the patronymic Jóhansdottir.

Consulting Herald Rosalind Cinquefoil
Submitter from Stowe on the Wowld

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-39-36_Hrafnhildr_Johansdottir_1.JPG
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-39-37_Hrafnhildr_Johansdottir_2.JPG
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-39-37_Hrafnhildr_Johansdottir_3.JPG
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-39-37_Hrafnhildr_Johansdottir_4.JPG


11: Kaczna of Bohemia -New Name & New Device

Argent between three mullets a dog courant and a bordure argent.

No major changes.

Consulting Herald Faelan mac Flainn
Submitter from Innilgard

"Kaczna" is attested in Moravia, 1358:
http://dmnes.org/cite/Kaczna/1358/chlumecky

"of Bohemia" submitted under the Lingua Anglica allowance.

Sources for attestation of "Bohemia" as a placename:
citations for the 16th century (listed under the modern German Böhmen):
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/modernperiod.html
In English the form Bohemia is found in Shakespeare's Winter's Tale and its 1595 source Pandosto:
https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Annex/DraftTxt/Pandosto/pandosto.html
modern sources for a King of Bohemia
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-IV-Holy-Roman-emperor

Consulting Herald Faelan Frette Rouge
Submitter from Innilgard


12: Mathild de Lilburne -New Name & New Device

Sable, three lozenges argent.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.

Consulting Herald Iames Douglas
Submitter from Bordescros

Lilburne is found in [Black] Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland. On pg 429, 1943 edition.

De Lilburne is found in Brinkburn Priory, The Chartulary of Brinkburn Priory, published 1893, pgs 13 and 135.

Mathild is found on Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources, accessed 10/06/2019.

Consulting Herald Iames Douglas
Submitter from Bordescros

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-19-47_chartularyofbrin00brinrich_0037.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-19-47_chartularyofbrin00brinrich_0160.jpg


13: Politarchopolis, Barony of -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 1996, via the West.

Argent, on a pale cotised gules, a griffin segreant argent.

Consulting Herald Isabella Cordon Rouge
Submitter is Politarchopolis


14: Rosa Askell -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for 14th century Scotland.
Sound most important.

Consulting Herald Isabella Cordon Rouge
Submitter from Politarchopolis

Rosa is a feminine given name found in "Italian names from Imola, 1312" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (httpL//www.ellipsis.ex/~liana/names/italian/imolafemalph.html)./ Double given name sare permitted in Italian according to Appendix A of SENA (http://heraldry.sca.org/laure/sena.html#AppendixA).

There is a notation of Askell in a St Gabriels report researching another name so this could be used as a possible source. It is mentioned in the fourth paragraph.
Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 2113
httpL//www.s-gabriel.org/2113

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-46-48_Rosa.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-46-48_s-gabriel_2113_ASKELL.jpg


15: Sabina della Rosa de Verona -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.

Consulting Herald Isabella Cordon Rouge
Submitter from Okewaite

Sabina - from NCS A Simple Guide to Imperial Roman Names by Urusula Georges: Women's names formed by changing the ending from '-us' to '-a', Cognomen: 'Sabinus' changed to 'Sabina' [httpL//heraldry.sca.org/names/roman.html].

<DELLAROSA> is an Italian family name found in the Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282-1532, (http:cds.library.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/SURNAM1.html). Because of the formatting of the database, this surname is actually <della Rosa>

Verona: is found in "Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names" by Arval Benicoeur https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/venice14/veice14sur.html Verona is listed as locative Verona is 60 miles W of Venice.

de + place name pattern is found in Appendix A


16: Shinjo Takame -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.

Consulting Herald Rosalind Cinquefoil
Submitter from Rowany

Takame: Takame is a woman's name dated to 1147 found in "Name Construction in Medieval Japan" (Revised edition, 2004) by Solveig Throndadottir (mundanely known as Barbara Nostrand) on page 385.

Shinjo: Shinjo is a surname found in "O-umajirushi - A 17th-Century Compendium of Samurai Heraldry" which has been translated and annotated by Xavid "Kihō" Pretzer (2015) on page 151 item 18 dated to 1562. It is available online at o-umajirushi.xavid.us.

As per SENA PN.2.C.2a, name elements can be up to 500 years apart if they are from a single regional naming group. As both of these are Japanese, these elements comply.

Submitter will not allow any changes to the surname Shinjo, but will allow minor changes to the first name Takame.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-13-29_Shinjo_Takame_1.png
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-13-30_Shinjo_Takame_2.png
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-13-30_Shinjo_Takame_3.png
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-13-30_Shinjo_Takume_(1).jpg
#5 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2294/2019-08-23/07-13-30_Shinjo_Takume_(2).jpg


17: Sigmund Gabrielis von Frankenstein -New Name

No major changes.

Consulting Herald Gwyneth Blackwing
Submitter from Dragon's Bay

Sigmund: found in https://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html

Gabrielis: found in https://heraldry.sca.org/names/kosice.htm

Frankenstein: registered in the SCA on the Jan2017 LoAR http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2017/01/17-01lar.html, documentation used at that time in OSCAR was "Brechenmacher gives this as a header form and dates Cantz Frankenstein to 1426"

Name pattern: https://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html, "In the few examples of double surnames, the second was always a locative, e.g. Jorg Moler von Eystet."


18: Uberto Renauldi -New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Gules, three church-bells argent.

Consulting Herald Rosalind Cinquefoil
Submitter from Rowany

Correction to Device (2019-Aug-24 08:08:49): Name is Uberto Renaldi


19: Ysabeau Sanguin -New Name & New Device

Sable in base a bat and on a chevron argent three gouttes de sang.

No changes.

Consulting Herald Faelan Frette Rouge
Submitter from Innilgard

"Ysabeau" & "Sanguin" are both from 15th century Paris:
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/paris1423.html
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/paris1408.html

Consulting Herald Faelan Frette Rouge
Submitter from Innilgard


Yours in Service to the Kingdom of Lochac

Bjǫrn Rocket


OSCAR counts 12 Names, 10 Devices, 1 Device Change, 1 Badge and 1 Blanket Permission to Conflict. There are a total of 25 items submitted on this letter.

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