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Laurel LoPaD dated 2018-12-28

To all the College of Arms and all others who may read this missive, from Juliana Laurel, Alys Pelican, and Cormac Wreath, greetings.

This letter contains the issues raised in the October 2018 LoAR for CoA discussion. The text in this letter is copied verbatim from that LoAR; it is provided here for convenience. As with a December LoI, these matters are currently scheduled for the Pelican and Wreath meetings in March 2019. Original commentary, responses, and rebuttals to commentary must be entered into OSCAR no later than Thursday, February 28, 2019.

This item was on the 03-2019 LoAR

1: Eridana Ambra Dragotta - New Heraldic Title

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 1993, via Caid.

Gold Starre Herald

No major changes.

This name is pended for discussion of whether it presumes on Vietnam's Order of the Gold Star ( Commenters are asked to discuss whether this real world order is significant enough to protect under NPN4D1, which states:

A non-personal name submission is only considered to presume on protected non-personal names. Names of important non-SCA entities are protected from presumption. Entities that we protect include places (countries, regions, and cities), chivalric orders and heraldic titles, and the names of organizations (colleges, businesses, and other such entities).

Places and organizations that are not important enough to have an entry in a standard print encyclopedia, such as the Encyclopedia Britannica, are not important enough to protect. Entities that do have an entry must be further considered to determine if they merit protection. In general, entities recognized (without having to look in a reference) by a significant number of people in the Society as the name of a single unique place or entity are likely to be important enough to protect. Historical places or entities that are still influential today or significantly shaped the course of world history, science, or the arts are generally important enough to protect.

In addition, we ask commenters to consider the usage of the term "gold star families" and a gold star emblem by families of U.S. military personnel killed during service. The association of the gold star with the families of those who had died in war goes back to World War I. The "American Gold Star Mothers" organization is federally chartered and the name and service marks are formally registered in the United States. (See for some of the history and protections.)

This was item 8 on the Caid letter of July 31, 2018. (

This item was on the 03-2019 LoAR

2: Jose Taberna de Torquemada - New Holding Name Change

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of July 31, 2018 as submitted.

Old Item: Jose of al-Barran, to be released.
Language (16th century Spain) most important.
Culture (16th century Spain) most important.

Concerns were raised in commentary and at the Pelican decision meeting about the fact that de Torquemada was the surname of Tomás de Torquemada, the first Grand Inquisitor of Spain during the latter part of the fifteenth century and the figure most closely associated with the movement known as the Spanish Inquisition. The association of the name Torquemada with the Spanish Inquisition and its practice of torture and burning at the stake has thoroughly penetrated popular culture. For example, Tomás de Torquemada appears as a villain in the Assassin's Creed video games and movie.

We have pended this name for discussion of whether the element Torquemada is offensive. PN5B4 states:

Names which include terms specifically associated with social or political movements that are offensive to a particular race, ethnicity, religion or similar group will not be registered. Likewise, names with references to events or ideas that are offensive to a similar group will not be registered. Even if used without prejudice in period, such terms are offensive by their modern context. For example, name phrases that suggest participation in pogroms or repressive movements, such as Judenfeind, a period German name meaning "enemy of the Jews," will not be registered.

In addition, given how many attendees at the Pelican decision meeting immediately referenced either Monty Python's "Spanish Inquisition" sketch or Mel Brooks' History of the World, Part I when this name was discussed, heralds are asked to comment on whether the name element Torquemada is obtrusively modern. PN2E of SENA sets a high standard for obtrusive modernity:

Something is said to be obtrusively modern when it makes a modern joke or reference that destroys medieval ambience and drags the average person mentally back to the present day. Obtrusiveness can be either in the written form or when spoken. A period name that has a modern referent will not generally be considered obtrusively modern. Only extreme examples will be returned.

Longstanding precedent defines an obtrusively modern name as one that will "grab the listener by the scruff of the neck and haul him, will he or nill he, back into the [21st] Century." [Porsche Audi, 08/1992 LoAR, Caid-R]

The submitter's device is registered under the holding name Jose of al-Barran.

This was item 5 on the Outlands letter of July 31, 2018. (

This item was on the 03-2019 LoAR

3: Marured verch David ap Gwilim - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language most important.

This name is a claim to be the daughter of Dafydd ap Gwilym. However, Dafydd ap Gwilym was a famous medieval Welsh poet ( Thus, the claim to be his daughter may be presumptuous under PN4D of SENA. As this issue was not raised in commentary, we are pending this name for discussion of whether Dafydd ap Gwilym should be considered significant enough to protect from presumption.

This was item 9 on the An Tir letter of July 24, 2018. (

Pray know that I remain,

In service,

Juliana de Luna
Laurel Queen of Arms

OSCAR counts 1 Name, 1 Heraldic Title and 1 Holding Name Change. There are a total of 3 items submitted on this letter.

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