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Ealdormere LoI dated 2018-11-25

Unto the Sovereigns and other members of the College of Arms of the Society, come greetings from TH Lord Dietrich von Sachsen, Green Mantle Herald.

It is the intent of the Ealdormere College of Heralds to submit the following for your consideration.

This item was on the 02-2019 LoAR

1: Brennisteinvatn, Shire of - New Branch Name Change & New Device Change

OSCAR NOTE: Filing name should match submitted item for a primary name change. It should be the new name.

Ulfheim, Shire of

Per chevron sable and argent, three wolfs' heads one and two erased argent and a laurel wreath sable.

Old Item: Brennisteinvatn, Shire of, to be released.
Old Item: Sable, on a flame argent a lizard tergiant fesswise vert, all within a laurel wreath argent, to be retained as a badge.
No major changes.
Meaning (Wolf home) most important.

Ulf: "A History of England Under the Anglo-Saxon Kings, Volume 2" by Johann Marten Lappenberg, pages 226, 254, 256, 257, 297, 309, 330.

Heim: Svenskt dialektlexickon: ordbook öfver svenska allmogespråket [Swedish dialectal lexicon: a dictionary for the Swedish lects], 1962 edition, Lund: C.W.K. Gleerups Förlag, published 1862-1867, pages 250, 251.

Petition for name and device change are included with the packet. The old device, "Sable, on a flame argent a lizard tergiant fesswise vert, all within a laurel wreath argent" is to be retained as ancient arms.

There is been considerable discussion on the internal letter about the arrangement of the wolf's heads, and whether this constitutes a unity of orientation issue. Consulting Herald has provided a link to a recently-registered device that had the same arrangement.

This item was on the 02-2019 LoAR

2: Iohn Spooner - New Name & New Device

Per pale sable and argent, an eagle's leg inverted erased and a spoon counterchanged, a chief gules.

No major changes.
Spelling (Iohn, with an I) most important.

Iohn: Variant spelling of John. Documented to 13th and 14th-century Scotland. Bryan J. Maloney "13th & 14th Century Scottish Names", accessed September 24th, 2018.

Spooner: English surname, dated to 1565. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch ( : 11 February 2018, Rose Spooner, 15 Jul 1565); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 599,889.

Batch Number: P01079-1

This item was on the 02-2019 LoAR

3: Katrina Prebensdottir - New Name & New Device

Or a drakkar sable, on a chief gules a cross argent.

Meaning (byname meaning "Preben's daughter") most important.

This name uses a mix of German and Danish, which is acceptable under SENA Appendix 3.

Katrina: German feminine name. "Deutschland Heiraten, 1558-1929," database, FamilySearch ( : 11 February 2018), Bartle Cappuss and Katrina Miller, 01 May 1564; citing Evangelisch, Flacht, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg; FHL microfilm 1,056,687.

Batch Number: M94048-1

Prebensdottir: Scandinavian Patronymic, meaning "daughter of Preben". Preben is dated to 1405 as Preben Podebusk af Egholm, ridder.

This item was on the 02-2019 LoAR

4: Muirghen MacQuharrie - Resub Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Argent, a galleon proper sailed vert, on a chief azure three roses argent.

Originally submitted on the Ealdormere LoI dated 2018-04-24, the original device was returned on the July 2018 LoAR:

"This device is returned for presumption through display of the flag of Libya, Vert. In past precedents, Libya's iconic single-tinctured flag has been given less protection than the other single-tinctured design we protect, the arms of Brittany, Ermine. Libya's protections are dismissed when they appear as part of a potential quartering, where Brittany is protected. And uncharged sails of a single tincture have long been held not to be a display of armory in and of themselves, with Libya specifically cited in the January 2014 registration of Morgan Grey Beard's device, Argent, a sail vert fastened to its mast and hanging from its yardarm sable.

However, banners and pennons are still considered means of heraldic display. And given that the banners hanging above the sails are rectangular and wider than they are tall, they appear to be modernly shaped flags. In other words, the galleon is literally flying the flag of Libya. If any protection for this design is to be afforded at all, it must surely be in the form in which it was actually used, as a modern national flag.

Upon resubmission, the submitter may omit the banners entirely, or else change their tincture to something other than vert or ermine, to clear the issue of presumption."

This design has taken the advice of the letter and omitted the flags. This should clear any such presumption with Libya.

The name was registered in July of 2018 (via Ealdormere).

This item was on the 02-2019 LoAR

5: Rubeus le Blont - New Name & New Device

Sable, a fleur-de-lys, on a chief an argent open book between two musical notes sable.

Language (Middle French) most important.
Culture (13th Century French) most important.

Rubeus: Dated 1387, in S.L. Uckleman, "Rubeus." In S.L. Uckleman, ed. The Dictionary of Medieval Names from Medieval European Sources, Edition 2018, no. 1.

Le Blont: Dated 1292, in S.L. Uckleman, Names in the 1292 census of Paris, 2013, p. 135.

Many and warmest thanks to those who have taken the time to comment and thus advance the art and science of heraldry in the Society.

Dietrich von Sachsen

Green Mantle Herald

OSCAR counts 3 New Names, 1 New Branch Name Change, 3 New Devices and 1 New Device Change. These 8 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $32 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Device. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 9 items submitted on this letter.

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