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Atenveldt LoP dated 2017-08-31


31 August 2017, A.S. LII


Unto Their Royal Majesties Áilgheanán and Amber; Baroness Genevieve de Lironcourt, Aten Principal Herald; Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

This is the September 2017 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation. Please have commentary to me by 20 September 2017.

1: Cathán Ultaig -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2009, via Atenveldt.

Gules, a bend sinister bevilled between a wolf's head couped contourny and an axe reversed maintain by a hand couped argent.

[Submitted as Cu Cathan Ultaig, the name was registered as Cathán Ultaig in October 2009.]

The use of two dissimilar secondary charges on either side of a bend/bend sinister bevilled is permitted.

2: Jeffroie Laurence Du Bosc -New Name & New Device

Quarterly gules and purpure, a cross counter-compony sable and argent, in chief two lions couchant addorsed regardant Or.

Client requests authenticity for 11th C. Norman.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

I cannot find this spelling of the given name. However, Geoffrei has been registered multiple times by the CoA in what seems to be a French and/or a Norman name. I am trying to contact the client to see if he would accept a documented spelling of the name if Jeffroie isn't feasible.

Friar Laurence occurs in Romeo and Juliet, by William Shakespeare 1591. Aryanhwy also cites the name in "Index of Names in the 1292 Subsidy Roll of London" - Aryanhwy merch Catmael (; it is also the client's legal given name.

The surname DuBosc is recorded around 1500 in Bordeaux, citing Friedemann and Scott's "Names Found in Commercial Documents from Bordeaux, 1470-1520" where the name of Vincent Dubosc appears ( The surname in the spelling Dubosc also appears in a Norman context in Elliot's "Sixteenth Century Norman Names" at This spelling is used by other members of his family, Lie du Bosc and Ann du Bosc; those names do not have the article capitalized.

The lions ought to be OR, not argent. Trying to replace the emblazon with the correct one was 30+ minutes of worthless.

3: Maria de Venetia -New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name on the Atenveldt LoI of November 30, 2016 as submitted.

Argent, a butterfly azure, a bordure azure semy of heart argent.

Old Item: Per bend argent and gules, a swan sable and a sword inverted Or., to be retained as a badge.

Neither the client's current device, Per bend argent and gules, a swan sable and a sword inverted Or. or the previous name registered to her as Natasiia Novgorodova(registered November 2016) are found in the A&O.

4: Mark the Just -New Alternate Name & New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2015, via Atenveldt.

Just Mark

Sable, a hand balance and a chief embattled argent.

No changes.

The name elements appear in his registered name. Just, in that what is done is morally right, righteous, is dated to 1382; just, upright and upright in one's moral dealings, is dated to 1382, both in the COED.

The badge uses elements from his registered device, Sable, a hanging balance and on a chief embattled argent a rod per pale gules and sable.

5: Rebeka Orosz -New Name & New Device

Quarterly vert and azure, a cross nebuly argent surmounted by a camal rampant Or.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Hyngarian.
Language (Hungarian) most important.
Culture most important.

Rebeka is a female given name This spelling was documented by Kolosvari Arpadne Julia in Hungary (in Latin) in 1272 (Fehértói, Árpád-kori személynévtár, s.n. Rebeka), seen in the LoAR for Rebeka Sidó, March 2014.

Theresia Orocz was the wife of Stephanus Pritz and the mother of Catharina Pritz, who was baptized 11 Nov 1556 in Dunafoöldvár, Tolna, Hungary (Hungary, Catholic Church Records, 1636-1895," database, FamilySearch, : 21 July 2017), ame%3AOrosz~%20%2Bbirth_place%3AHungary~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1200-1650~.

6: Rhys Makhdoom -New Name & New Device

Sable, a horned death's head, on a chief argent, three horned death's heads gules.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound most important.

Rhys is the client's legal name.

Makhdoom was found in Wikipedia ( It is an Arabic term for a teacher of the Sunnah (teachings, sayings and attributions) of the Prophet Mohammad. A makhdoom was a respected person who dedicated his life to Islam, the Quran and the Sunnah. The Makhdoom families were respected in Pakistan mainly due to the role of their ancestors in spreading Islam in the subcontinent.

I am a little uncomfortable with the meaning of the byname (an individual who is dedicated to a religious life) and the charges on the device.

7: Saoirse Kyara Fae Ultaig -New Name & New Device

Or, a fess sable, overall two candles argent, enflamed gules.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.
Sound ("seer-shuh") most important.

Although it is claimed that the client's legal name is Saoirse Kyara Fae Mullan, no documentation was provided for the name.

For Ultaig, the byname Ultac ("Ulster[-ian]/Ulster[-ish]/Ulidian") begins as a descriptive byname but became an inherited surname, according to "Index of Names in Irish Annals: Descriptive Bynames: Ultac/Ultach," Mari Elspeth nic Bryan ( ). The Middle Irish Gaelic form of the name, which corresponds to the date of the given name, is Ultac/Ultaig and dates from 860 to 1078 (it also appears as a Modern Early Irish Gaelic name element). Given the examples in the citation, the correct form appears to be Ultaig. It is registered to the client's father.

[The submission forms REALLY need to be filled out in pen, and made complete as possible. Date submitted and consulting herald information are very valuable. Documentation is a given.]

8: Sean Gleny -New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: filing name should not be registered for a primary name change. It was, in in December of 2017, via Atenveldt.

Old Item: Seán an Gleanna, to be retained as an alternate name.

Sean is a masculine given name from the Gaelic "Seán", a version of "John". One instance, dated 1601, "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents: Men's Names," Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada,

Eupham Gleny, daughter of Archibald Gleny was christened March 1649 in Alyth, Perth, Scotland (Batch C11328-2, rname%3AGleny~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1649-1649~%20%2Bgender%3AF&collection_id=1771030).

9: Sitareh -New Name & New Device

Argent, a mermaid purpure maintaining a sun Or and a decrescent azure, a double tressure sable.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.
Meaning most important.

No documentation was provided for the name, other than it is meant to mean "star" (no language given).

In addition, there is no indication given that a byname has been chosen. Because of this, this violates PN.2.B. Name Phrase Requirements: A registerable personal name must be made up of at least two name phrases: a given name and at least one byname (which may appear to be a second given name). While it is easy to document individuals who are identified only with a single given name, we do not allow the registration of single element personal names. Individuals may use those names, but may not register them.

[The submission forms REALLY need to be filled out in pen, and made complete as possible. Current e-mail address, date submitted and consulting herald are very valuable.]

10: Solveig Sundafyllir -New Name & New Device

Per fess gules and argent semy of shears, a fess wavy sable and in chief a fish Or.

The name is Old Norse.

Sólveig is a feminine name found in "Viking Names found in Landnámabók," Aryanhwy merch Catmael,

Sundafyllir, "sound-filler, able to fill a bay with fish by magic," is found in "Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók," Aryanhwy merch Catmael,

Thank you all for your help and insights!

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716

OSCAR counts 6 Names, 1 Name Change, 1 Alternate Name, 7 Devices, 1 Device Change and 1 Badge. There are a total of 17 items submitted on this letter.

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