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Outlands LoI dated 2015-12-20

From the Office of Rampart Herald

THL Khalidah bint Yahya'a (Nicole Riviezzo)

Unto the Sovereigns and members of the College of Arms of the Society, does Khalidah bint Yahya'a, Rampart Herald send her greetings.

What follows is the December 2015 Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of the Outlands.

I would like to thank Green Anchor & The NE Calontir Commenting Group, Liber, Maridonna Benvenuti, and all of the heralds who were kind enough to contribute comments on OSCAR.

It is my intent to register this December the following items from the Outlands' College of Heralds.

This item was on the 03-2016 LoAR

1: Bjorn bastarðr - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (Scandinavian (Viking)) most important.
Language (Scandinavian (Viking)) most important.
Culture (Scandinavian (Viking)) most important.

[Bastard] - A Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames by Bardsley, pg. 83 ( St. Gabriel Reports #2535, #2043, and #1922.

[Bjorn] - St. Gabriel Reports #2516, #2431.

Originally submitted as <Bjorn the Bastard> but the submitter approved for Kingdom to make the change to <Bjorn bastarðr> based on the internal commentary/documentation provided by Ogress:

Scandinavian and English can't be combined when the elements are dated after 1100. Here, all the cites for "the bastard" are post-1100. So we are going to need to re-document this.

<Bjorn> is a simplified form of <Bjǫrn> found in Geirr Bassi's The Old Norse Name at p. 8. Per the December 2010 Cover Letter: "We will allow the registration of Old Norse names in simplified versions of standardized Old Norse; for example, a simplification that uses o for both o and ǫ or one that uses th for both þ and ð. Therefore spellings like Bjorn will be registerable as Old Norse spellings."

Geirr Bassi also has the descriptive byname <bastarðr> which it glosses as "bastard, usually William the Conqueror."

So <Bjorn bastarðr> is a registerable option, but requires the major change of dropping the <the>

R&W s.n. Bastard has <Bastard> dated to 1086, but not accompanied by an article until after 1100.

So <Bjorn Bastard> is an option, but again requires dropping the <the>, which is a major change.

This item was on the 03-2016 LoAR

2: Cecilia Caterina da Firenze - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2015, via the Outlands.

Per chevron throughout purpure and argent, a cat sejant guardant sable, in chief three fleurs-de-lys counterchanged

This item was on the 03-2016 LoAR

3: Dante Celestino de San Vincenzo - Resub Name

Language (Late 15th Century Italian (Pisa)) most important.
Culture (Late 15th Century Italian (Pisa)) most important.

Pattern follows double given name plus locative surname.

[Dante] - Given name. "Italian Names from the Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282-1532" Aryanhwy merch Catmael (

[Celestino] - Given name. "Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 493" ( mentioning Celestino as the name of a Pope in the 13th century, among others

[de San Vincenzo] - Locative byname. Mentioned in Machiavelli's Discourses on Livy regarding a battle that took place there in 1505. (;;

Additional Documentation provided by Maridonna Benvenuti:

De Felice Nomi, s.n. Celeste, masculine derivation: Celestino. "…risale al tardo nome latino Caelestis, maschile e femminile…Le forme Celestina e Celestino possono essere sia un diminutive Italian di Celeste, dia nomi cristiani che continuano il latino di età imperiale Caelestinus, motivati dal culto di santi di questo nome, come San Celestino I papa nel V secolo, San Celestino martire a Roma con Saturnino, San Celestino V papa, quell Pietro del Morrone (così detto dal monte Morrone presso l'Aquila su cui so era ritirato come eremita) che nel 1294 abdicò dal papato…e Santa Celestina vergine e martire (non riconosciuta ufficialmente dalla Chiesa)… A translation: Celeste, masculine derivation: Celestino. "... Dates from the late Latin name Caelestis, male and female ... The forms Celestina and Celestine are diminutives of Italian Celeste, give Christian names that continue the Latin imperial Caelestinus, motivated by the cult of the saints of this name, St. Celestino I Pope in the 5th century, St. Celestino martyr in Rome with Saturnino; Pope St. Celestine V, that Peter Morrone (so called from Mount Morrone at the Eagle on which had retired as a hermit) who in 1294 abdicated the papacy ... and Saint Celestine virgin and martyr (unrecognized officially by the Church) ...

The Catholic Encyclopedia lists five Popes two of which are saints (I & V)

Celestine I, Pope Saint - Excommunicated Nestorius, sent St. Patrick to Ireland, d. 432

Celestine II, Pope - Reigned 1143-1144

Celestine III, Pope - The first Orsini pope (b. 1106) who reigned 1191-1198

Celestine IV, Pope - Reigned October-November 1241

Celestine V, Pope Saint - Benedictine priest and hermit, d. 1296

The Italian spelling Celestino

The documentation for Dante is from Florence, not Pisa, although both cities are Tuscan.

Searching the Tratte shows three Dantes in the late 15th century. Dante Ardingherieri 1497; Dante [di] Benedetto Gori 1480/1518; Dante [di] Bernardo Da Castiglio 1462/1515. d_1=NAME1&operator_1=%3D&contents_1=Dante&logic_1=AND&search_field_2=NAME1&operator_2=%3D&contents_ 2=&logic_2=AND&search_field_3=NAME2&operator_3=%3D&contents_3=&logic_3=AND&search_field_4=NAME3&ope rator_4=%3D&contents_4=&logic_4=AND&search_field_5=NAME4&operator_5=%3D&contents_5=&logic_5=AND&sea rch_field_6=SURNAM2&operator_6=%3D&contents_6=&logic_6=AND&limit=350&SER_0=05&SER_1=06

Names from 15th and 16th Century Pisa By Juliana de Luna shows Dante, p. 25 with 3 examples, dates between 1536 & 1556.

The previous submission, Ambrosius von Beck, was returned on the August 2008 LoAR ( with the following: {The byname von Beck was documented from p. 56 of the Journal of the Warburg and Courtland Institutes vol. 40 (1977), which lists a Sybert von Beck, a 14th C Carmelite theologian. However, as far as we can tell, the names in this article were normalized/standardized, so this citation does not provide evidence for von Beck in the 14th century. Beck is a Low German or Dutch word meaning 'brook' (it is a cognate with High German bach). We have found evidence that it was also used as a proper place name, e.g., in the following names: Maria Van Beck and Elizabeth van Beke, married 1582, baptised 1591 (in The marriage, baptismal, and burial registers, 1571 to 1874, and monumental inscriptions, of the Dutch reformed church, Austin Friars, London: with a short account of the strangers and their churches, William John Charles Moens, ed., (Lymington: [King] 1884)), James van Becke 1571 (in Returns of aliens dwelling in the city and suburbs of London from the reign of Henry VIII. to that of James I., R.E.G. Kirk, ed., (Aberdeen [The University Press] 1900-1908.)), and the surname van Beke 1556 (in Aryanhwy merch Catmael & Kymma Godric, "Names from Antwerp, 1443-1561"). Koebler's Old High German etymological database gives beck as a High German word meaning 'basin, bowl'. Fause Losenge notes: There appear to be three MHG words <becke>: 'basin, bowl' (referring to things like bowls for holding food, basins for washing things in, etc.); 'baker'; and 'bakery; baked goods; baking materials; process of baking; etc.'. It's possible that the first was also used in a topographical sense, but I've seen no evidence for it. Lacking evidence that Beck is a plausible High German place name, von Beck violates RfS III.1.a Linguistic Consistency by combining Low and High German in the same name phrase. We would change the surname to the wholly Low German van Beck, but the submitter does not allow major changes, such as changing the language of an element.}

This item was on the 03-2016 LoAR

4: Elizabeth Argentieri - New Name & New Device

Per fess invected vert and azure, an otter Or vorant of a fish argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.

[Elizabeth] - submitter's legal name

[Argentieri] - Our Italian Surnames by Joseph G Fucilla. Page 173 under Metal Trades, Name for Silversmith. (;;

Additional Documentation by Christopher Devereux (Liber) You can find argentiere as an occupation in Le Vite de Pittori, Scultori et Architetti dal Pontificato di Gregorio XIII by Giovanni Baglione, 1642. While in the gray period, he's writing about the late 16th century (1572) (

In amongst a list of sculptors, painters, architects and so on, you can find: 1. Giuliano Spagna argentiere 2. Giovanni Battista Barinci Sanese Argentiere 3. Two unnamed Flemish silversmiths listed also as Argentieri ("e due Fiamminghi parimente Argentieri")

This item was on the 03-2016 LoAR

5: Isabella Maria Francesco - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2013, via the Outlands.

Sable, a decrescent within six mullets of eight points in annulo argent, a base wavy barry wavy argent and purpure

This item was on the 03-2016 LoAR

6: Kristoff Karlsson - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2015, via the Outlands.

Vert, in pale a smith's tongs fesswise and a camail Or

The submitter discovered the camail charge through a discussion here:

This item was on the 03-2016 LoAR

7: Marcus Artorius Drustanus - New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2014, via the Outlands.

Purpure, a nude woman holding a ribbon argent statant affronty on a demi-roundel issuant from base, a demi-sun issuant from chief Or

Old Item: Gules, a scorpion inverted Or between three roses argent, to be retained as a badge.

Originally submitted with the blazon: Purpure, in pale a demi-sun issuant from chief Or and the goddess Fortuna argent standing on a demi-bezant issuant from base. However, Kingdom was dubious about what make a charge 'the goddess Fortuna' and changed the blazon accordingly. The submitter did provide these links for 'the goddess Fortuna', ( and (

This item was on the 03-2016 LoAR

8: Nerienda of Elmet - New Name & New Device

Azure, a saltire throughout between in pale a crescent and a mullet of eight points, a bordure argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Language (Anglo Saxon) most important.
Culture (Anglo Saxon) most important.

[Nerienda] - Anglo Saxon dating from 699. "Anglo-Saxon Women's Names from Royal Charters" Marieke van de Dal (

[Elmet] - Elmet was an independent Brittonic kingdom covering a region of what later became the West Riding of Yorkshire in the Early Middle Ages, betweem about the 5th century and the early 7th century. (

Additional Documentation provided by Green Anchor & the NE Calontir Commenting Group:

Mills' entry for "Barwick" supports "Elmet" as "an ancient district name, obscure in origin and meaning, first recorded in the 7th cent. as Elmed."

This item was on the 03-2016 LoAR

9: Séamus MacRae - New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2008, via the Outlands.

Per bend sinister gules and argent, a falcon belled and jessed argent and a cross crosslet sable

Old Item: Per bend sinister argent and gules, a cross crosslet and a falcon belled and jessed, all counterchanged, to be released.

Thus ends the December 2015 Letter of Intent.

In Service,

THL Khalidah bint Yahya'a

Rampart Herald

OSCAR counts 3 New Names, 5 New Devices and 2 New Device Changes. These 10 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $30 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Name. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 11 items submitted on this letter.

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