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Outlands LoP dated 2015-12-15

Unto the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 15th day of December, A.S. L (2015 CE), does Lord Gauvain Eisenbein send greetings on behalf of Baron Randal Carrick, White Stag Principal Herald.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands' Letter of Presentation for December, 2015.

Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by January 19th, 2016, for the decision meeting on January 20th, 2016. As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.

There has been a rather large uptick in the number of forms coming in containing tiny text that Castle's aging eyes cannot read and transcribe. Starting this month, any such forms that are not accompanied by an electronic version suitable for cut and paste will be pended until an electronic version is provided.

Starting next year, I am planning to trail run the idea of a shared Google folder to collect electronic materials to make the submissions process smoother. I would like three or four local heralds to join me in the pilot project. Please email me at gauvain_eisenbein@yahoo.com if you are interested in participating in the pilot.

1: Achius Odinson -New Name Change & Resub Device

OSCAR NOTE: filing name should not be registered for a primary name change. It was, in in April of 2016, via the Outlands.

Per chevron azure and sable, a chevron ermine between two axes blades to center and a cross patonce argent

Old Item: Achius filius Odini, to be released.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (Achius/Achaius, Odinson/Odinsone) most important.
Meaning (Son of (a man named) Odin) most important.

[Achius] -- This given name was previously registered to the submitter on the September 2015 LoAR. (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/09/15-09lar.html) The name is the Latinized form of the Anglo-Scandanavian name Achi, dated to 1086, and the client wishes to keep it.

[Odinson] -- Patronymic byname meaning son of (a man named) Odin. The patronymic byname 'filius Odini' was registered to the submitter on the same LoAR.

Four instances of men named Odin occur in the Domesday Book as lords in 1086. One of them, Odinus Camerari, has a son, also listed as a lord, who is shown as Hungerus filius Odini (the genitive of Odinus).

All scanned images for documentation were retrieved from Open Domesday (http://opendomesday.org/).

Links for citations go directly to the page that contains the snippet of the Domesday Book, which has a link to the same full page image sent with this documentation.

1. Odin, Whitford, Ati's Cross, Cheshire: http://opendomesday.org/place/SJ1478/whitford/

2. Odin, Chobham, Surrey: http://opendomesday.org/place/SU9761/chobham/ (Reference to Odin is on Surrey VI: http://opendomesday.org/book/surrey/06/)

3. Odin of Windsor (Odin de Windsores), Crondall, Hampshire: http://opendomesday.org/place/SU8655/cove/ (Reference to Odin is on

Hampshire IX: http://opendomesday.org/media/images/ham/09.png)

4. Odin the chamberlain (Odinus Camerari), Swindon, Wiltshire: http://opendomesday.org/place/SU1583/swindon/

5. Hungerus f. Odini, Broadwindsor, Dorset: http://opendomesday.org/place/ST4302/broadwindsor/

The submitter previously registered 'filius Odini' but wishes to use Odinson instead. A discussion on English surnames ending in -son can be found in the introduction to Reaney & Wilson's A Dictionary of English Surnames, pp xix-xx. This naming style was more commonly found in the north where there was more Scandanavian influence. Examples include Godricsone (1066), filius Marie (1292) being recorded later as Marysone (1298) and multiple others that include patronymic, metronymic and occupational bynames as surnames (e.g., Smythson or Clerkessone).

The pattern of a mixed name composed of Latinized and English elements can also be seen earlier in R&W's introduction under Variation of Surnames, pp xi-xiii. Some examples are Johannes Gyffard dictus le Boef (1297), Adam filius Remigii (12th C), Agnes filia Petronille (1299) and others which mix Latinized forms with common English forms of names or surnames.

Consulting Herald: Christopher Devereux (Citadel)

The previous submission, Per chevron azure and sable, a chevron ermine between two axes in chevron blades to center and a cross patonce argent, was returned on the September 2015 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/09/15-09lar.html#Outlands_returns19) with the following: { This device is returned for violating SENA A3D2c, Unity of Posture and Orientation, which states "A charge group in which postures for different charges must be blazoned individually will not be allowed without period examples of that combination of postures." The charges here are not in a unified arrangement, as the axes must be blazoned separately from the cross in order to adequately describe their positioning.

Please advise the submitter to draw fewer and larger ermine spots so they are easier to identify.}

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (Citadel)


2: Adam ben Avram -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2010, via the Outlands.

Per plae vert and azure a column Or

Consulting herald: Hoyai Kristof (Caerthe)


3: Adam Stedefast -New Augmentation of Arms

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2000, via the Outlands.

Per chevron azure and sable, a phoenix Or rising from flames proper issuant from the line of division and a rose argent, and for augmentation, on a canton vert, a key inverted and a hobbyhorse in saltire within a bordure embattled Or.

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (al-Barran)


4: Aegeon the Actor -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2013, via the Outlands.

Or, a rose sable barded and seeded proper within an embattled inner edge vert

Consulting herald: Amice de Clara (Aarquelle)


5: Anne la Trouvere -New Name & New Device

Vert a teazel slipped and leaved and on a chief Or, three lozenges azure

Submitter has no desire as to gender.
Sound (Please keep Anne!) most important.
Meaning (troubadour) most important.

"Anne" is an English/French feminine given name beginning first in england around the 13th Century. (Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names by EG Withycombe, 2nd Edition, pg. 24)

"la Trouvere" is old French meaning "the troubadour," dates from the 12th Century, and was found in OED.

Consulting herald: Amice de Clara (Aarquelle)

Consulting herald: Amice la Clara (Aarquelle)


6: Bengeirr Smiðr -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2015, via the Outlands.

Per bend sinister nebuly sable and vairy vert and argent a reven contourney argent

The previous submission, Per bend sinister nebuly sable and vairy vert and argent, a sinister wing issuant from dexter argent, was returned on the September 2015 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/09/15-09lar.html#Outlands_returns19) with the following: {This device is returned for conflict with the protected arms of Dante Aligheri: Azure, a sinister wing argent. There is only a single DC, for changing the field. The wing in this submission cannot be in the center of the field as it would thus be partly on the argent portion of the field. That means the move has to be considered forced and so cannot provide the second DC required.

Consulting herald: Llywus ap Alan (Bryngolau)


7: Caerthe, Barony of -New Order Name & New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 1973, via Laurel.

Sable Destrier of Caerthe

(Fieldless) Two lances in saltire vert surmounted by a horse's head contourny erased sable

Meaning (equestrian) most important.

This is a new baronial award for excellence in equestrian activities, modeled after the Sable Lion of Caerthe.

Sable - The August 2005 cover letter says that 'orders named for heraldic charges or for items that, while not found in period as heraldic charges, may be used as heraldic charges... may contain the ordinary color names of any heraldic tincture.'

Destrier - a war horse, c. 1300, from Old French destrier

Consulting herald: Noelle de Poys (Caerthe)

Consulting herald: Noelle de Poys (Caerthe)


8: Citadel of the Southern Pass, Barony of the -New Order Name & New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 1984, via Atenveldt.

The Order of the Praeceptor Australis

Azure, two piles inverted Or, in chief a lamp argent

Language (Latin 15th century) most important.
Culture (Latin 15th century) most important.

[Australis]--"southern", which is documented and in use since the first award of the Citadel of the Southern as of 1984. Found as a translated work by William Whitaker's Words out of the University of Notre Dame(http://archives.nd.edu/words.html).

[Praeceptor]--"Teacher", Found as a translated work by William Whitaker's Words out of the University of Notre Dame(http://archives.nd.edu/words.html). 1169 VII 29, Benevento: letter(pope Alexander III to Archbishop Henry of Rheims), mention: NN, praeceptor Hospitalis( probably Guy of Mahon)(The Central Convent of Hospitallers and Templars: History, Organization, and Personnel(1099/1120-1310)).

A scholar's house, which was completed in 1538, served the "Praeceptor Germaniae" (Teacher of Germany) as a residence and study in close proximity to the university. Elector John Frederick I, known as John the Magnanimous, had the three-storey building erected to keep the highly educated professor in Wittenberg. The generously proportioned house fulfilled its purpose: Melanchthon, who taught at the local university from 1518, lived and worked there until his death in 1560.[Philipp Melanchthon als Praeceptor Germaniae, Volume 7,pg. VIII]

Consulting herald: Marco D'Este (Citadel)

Consulting herald: Marco D'Este (Citadel)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-10-09_citadel1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-10-11_citadel2.jpg


9: Dagun of Rio de las Animas -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of November 27, 2015 as submitted.

Per fess azure and vert a fret Or 3 mullets argent

The previous submission, Per fess azure and vert, a fret Or, was returned on the November 2015 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2015-10-lop/1511-lor.html) with the following: {Returned for two conflicts. There is only one DC for change of field as there is no difference between a fret, a fret throughout, a fret couped, or a fret fimbriated. Fret, Confederation of the[reg. 5/81 via the East], Per saltire argent and ermine, a fret Or, fimbriated sable; Morgaina Sarai la Foncée [reg. 7/74 via Atenveldt], Per saltire vert and azure, a fret throughout Or.

Consulting herald: Geua filia Guy (Rio de las Animas)


10: Doran van Falkenstein -Resub Name Change From Holding Name

OSCAR NOTE: 'Old Item' should contain the former primary name. The form that is there is not a registered name.

Old Item: Glen of the Outlands, to be released.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound ("Doran" most important, combined with German locative for Falkenstein) most important.

The submitter's previous name submission was returned on the June 1994 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1994/06/lar.html), but the holding name Glen of the Outlands was created in order to register his arms.

[Doran] -- English given name. Found in Familysearch.org records, summarized as follows:

Doran Salte, M, 28 Feb 1567, Bodmin, Cornwall, England. Batch P00275-1. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N51B-Q86

Doran Goune, M, 08 May 1568, Bodmin, Cornwall, England. Batch P00275-1. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N51B-Q8F

[von Falkenstein] -- German locative byname. Found in Academy of St Gabriel Report #2506. It mentions that Falkenstein can be found as a place name as early as 1281 with the following citations from Brechenmacher: s.nn. Falkenstein(er), Salzburg(er), Wolfauer, Wolfinger, Wolfrath, Wolfsberg, Wolfurt(er).

http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2506+0

The February 2015 Cover Letter allows for given names borrowed from English to be counted as German given names when combined with a German byname:

"Therefore, we will not add the English-German lingual mix to Appendix C of SENA. However, we will allow the borrowing of given names from German into English and vice versa, in the context of the 16th and early 17th centuries. An English given name that is borrowed from German is considered to be English under Appendix C, and a German given name that is borrowed from English is considered to be German." http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/02/15-02cl.html

So, this name is formed in the acceptable pattern of [English given name] + [German byname] per the 2/15 cover letter, with all elements existing/possible in the 16th Century.

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (Dragonsspine)


11: Eleanora Jane of Canterbury -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 1995, via Atenveldt.

Per chevron purpure and Or, a semy of estoiles Or and a unicorn rampant contourny sable

The previous submission, Per chevron purpure and Or, seven estoiles in demi-annulo Or, and a unicorn rampant contourny sable, was returned on the May 1996 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1996/05/lar.html) with the following: {"It has been ruled that an arch of charges is not period heraldic style. The ruling was originally for an arch of stars: `Stars surrounding only part of a charge is fantasy art.' [Baldwin of Erebor, 28 September 1984] It has since been extended to any charges `in arch'." (Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme, LoAR October 1992, p. 30)}

Consulting herald: Noelle de Poy (Caerthe)


12: Elizabeth Bakere -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2015, via the Outlands.

(Fieldless) Three annulets interlaced two and one azure

Consulting herald: Llywus ap Alan (Aarquelle)


13: Erchambaut le Breton -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of August 31, 2015 as submitted.

Argent, a semy of bees gules

The previous submission, Argent, a rose proper within an orle of mullets of six points sable, was returned on the August 2015 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2015-07-lop/1508-lor.html) with the following: {Returned for a conflict with Judith the Rose (10/98 via Atenveldt): Argent, a rose gules slipped and leaved proper. There is one DC for the addition of the orle of mullets. There is no difference with the slipping of roses per Phaedra de Courcelles [06/15 LoAR via Lohac (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/06/15-06lar.html#325]

Consulting herald: Maimuna al-Bukhariyya (Drygestan)


14: Florie ingen Edde de Brae Mharr -New Name

Consulting herald: Selene of the Sky (Dragonsspine)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-44-21_florie1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-44-23_florie2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-44-25_florie3.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-44-26_florie4.jpg
#5 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-44-28_florie5.jpg


15: Gillian Elizabeth Dawnser -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2014, via the Outlands.

Vert a semy of roses Or, a goat courant argent

Consulting herald: Shoshanah Bas Ruven (Caer Galen)


16: Godric Friis -New Name

Consulting herald: Selene of the Sky (Dragonsspine)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-50-39_godric1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-50-41_godric2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-50-42_godric3.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/22-50-44_godric4.jpg


17: Helena de Eyncurt -New Name

Language (13th C Anglo-Norman) most important.
Culture (13th C Anglo-Norman) most important.

[Helena] -- Feminine given name. Found in A Dictionary of English Surnames by Reaney & Wilson, s.n. Ellen. Helena de Sutton, dated 1210.

[de Eyncurt] -- Byname. Ibid, s.n. d'Eyncourt gives Oliver de Eyncurt, dated 1243.

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (Caerthe)


18: Liliona Ruth Hampton -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2015, via the Outlands.

Argent, on a bend argent fibriated vert, three fleur de lis purpure, and two lilies Gules, slipped and leaved proper

Consulting herald: Selene of the Sky (Dragonsspine)


19: Marco Paolo d'Este -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2015, via the Outlands.

Gules flaunches vary sable and argent

Consulting herald: Marco Paolo d'Este (Citadel)


20: Outlands, Kingdom of the -New Order Name & New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 1986, via the Outlands.

Order of the Argent Fleece

Vert, a fleece argent within a bordure embattled Or

This order name follows the common pattern of <color>+<charge>, and is very similar to the most famous historical Order in existence, the Order of the Golden Fleece. Submitters would prefer the order name as submitted, but would also accept "Order of the Golden Fleece of the Outlands" to minimize any appearance of presumption against the Order of the Golden Fleece.


21: Rafael Fernando Montes de Castillo -New Name & New Device

Argent, three escarbuncles one and two sable and on a point pointed fleury gules a tower Or

Language (16th Century Spain) most important.
Culture (16th Century Spain) most important.

The name pattern is double given name + double surname.

[Rafael] -- Masculine given name. Found in FamilySearch.org records:

Rafael Rodriguez, 24 Jul 1602, El Salvador, Valladolid, Valladolid, Spain. Batch M87122-7. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FF26-962

Rafael Rodriguez, 22 May 1605, Santa Maria Y Santiago, Bercero, Valladolid, Spain. Batch M87145-4. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5ZV-VMT

Rafael Artiguez, 29 Apr 1599, Diocesis de Granada, Granada, Spain. Batch M79101-3. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFKK-PYM

[Ferdinand] -- Masculine given name. Found 104 times in the account books of Isabel of Castilla per "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith) (2000). http://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/index.html

[Montes] -- Byname. Found in FamilySearch.org records:

Francisco Montes, 25 Nov 1596, Santa María, Medina De Rioseco, Valladolid, Spain. Batch M87309-4. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFH6-7SF

Maria Ana Montes, 28 Nov 1579, Valladolid, Valladolid, Spain. Batch M87118-1. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFC9-QM6

Andres Montes, 31 Mar 1599, San Pelayo, Olivares De Duero, Valladolid, Spain. Batch M87313-2. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFC3-GBT

[de Castillo] -- Locative byname. Ibid.

Agustin de Castillo, 08 Feb 1595, Santa Cecilia, Villalán De Campos, Valladolid, Spain. Batch M86233-2. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFH4-11L

Lorenza de Castillo, 02 Jun 1595, San Juan Bautista, Valladolid, Valladolid, Spain. Batch M87103-1. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFHH-1Q3

Catalina de Castillo, 02 Sep 1583, Santa María, Medina De Rioseco, Valladolid, Spain. Batch M87309-4. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFHD-H6G

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (Citadel)

Consulting herald: Marco Paolo d'Este (Citadel)


22: Robert de Arsur -New Name & New Device

Sable, an alphyn passant and on a point pointed fleury argent a Latin cross fourchy gules

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language (Late 12th/Early 13th resident of Crusader-controlled Arsur in Palestine.) most important.
Culture (Late 12th/Early 13th resident of Crusader-controlled Arsur in Palestine.) most important.
Meaning (Late 12th/Early 13th resident of Crusader-controlled Arsur in Palestine.) most important.

[Robert] -- Masculine given name. Found in "Men's Given Names from Early 13th C England" by Talan Gwynek (Brian Scott) with 58 occurrences. http://heraldry.sca.org/names/eng13/eng13m.html

[de Arsur] -- Locative byname. Referenced in Itinerarum Peregrinorum et Gesta Regis Ricardi, an account of Richard I and his involvement in the Third Crusade, edited by William stubbs and published in 1864. Stubbs mentions in the foreword (https://books.google.com/books?id=O_49AAAAcAAJ&pg=PP7#v=onepage&f=false) that the text was to be kept as correct as possible, and compiled from the best MSS available. Arsuf was originally taken by Crusaders in 1101 and renamed Arsur. It fell in 1187 and was retaken after Richard I defeated Saladin during the battle of Arsuf in 1191. Arsur was held until 1265, when Muslim armies recaptured it and razed the defenses. The town is mentioned several times, but here is an example from the army taking a position outside the walls during the battle: https://books.google.com/books?id=O_49AAAAcAAJ&vq=Arsur&pg=PA274#v=snippet&q=Arsur&f=false

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (Citadel)

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (Citadel)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-12-15/23-11-32_robert1.jpg


23: Robyn Greenley -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound (Robin/Robyn) most important.
Spelling (Robyn (with the y)) most important.

[Robyn] -- Given name. English/Scottish. Found in FamilySearch.org records as <Robin> but the submitter prefers the spelling with the y, and the i/y switch is found in both England and Scotland.

Robin Best, F, 12 Jan 1639, Broughton by Briff, Lincoln, England. Batch C02687-3. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N21G-NLN

Robin Kennedy, F, 11 Mar 1604, Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland. Batch C11793-2. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT14-7B3

[Greenley] -- Byname. English. Found in FamilySearch.org records:

Alexandri Greenley, M, 17 Oct 1591, Amcotts, Lincoln, England. Batch M02699-3. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXQ7-CPB

Johannes Greenley, M, 06 Sep 1596, Belton, Lincolnshire, England. Batch C01849-7. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6C6-BZ4

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (Citadel)


24: Roger Warwick -New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: filing name should not be registered for a primary name change. It was, in in April of 2016, via the Outlands.

Old Item: Roger de Gilbert, to be released.
Submitter desires a masculine name.

From FamilySearch IGI records:

Roger Warwick, Marriage, 24 Oct 1599, Kingsbury, Warwick, England.

Batch #M02140-3. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NV8K-NJG

Roger Warwick, Christening, 25 Mar 1591, St Botolph Without Aldgate,

London, London, England. Batch #C00633-1.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JW73-PQL

Roger Warwick, Christening, 04 Nov 1546, St Mary's, Watford, Hertford,

England. Batch #C07305-1.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J74X-7PT

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (Citadel)


25: Salvatore dei Medici -New Name

Language (15th Century Italy (Florence)) most important.
Culture (15th Century Italy (Florence)) most important.

[Salvatore] -- Given name. Found in "Names from 15th and 16th Century Pisa" by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith) (2013), occurring 118 times between 1457 and 1557. Retrieved 7/2/2015 from: http://heraldry.sca.org/kwhss/2014/Juliana_de_Luna/Names_from_15th_and_16th_Century_Pisa.pdf

[dei Medici] -- Surname. Common in 15th Century Florence, per Academy of St. Gabriel Report 1093, by Walraven van Nijmegen as <de' Medici>. The scribal abbreviation has been removed. Retrieved 7/2/2015 from: http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?1093+0

Consulting herald: Christopher Devereux (Citadel)


Thus ends the refreshingly full December 2015 Letter of Presentation. Ho ho ho!

In Service,

Gauvain Eisenbein

Outlands Castle Herald


OSCAR counts 8 Names, 3 Name Changes, 3 Order Names, 12 Devices, 5 Badges and 1 Augmentation of Arms. There are a total of 32 items submitted on this letter.

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