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Outlands LoI dated 2015-09-29

From the Office of Rampart Herald

THL Khalidah bint Yahya'a (Nicole Riviezzo)

rampart@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Sovereigns and members of the College of Arms of the Society, does Khalidah bint Yahya'a, Rampart Herald send her greetings.

What follows is the September 2015 Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of the Outlands.

I would like to thank ffride wlffsdotter, Green Anchor, Ogress, Aspen, Maridonna Benvenuti, Conrad von Zollern, and all of the heralds who were kind enough to contribute comments on OSCAR.

It is my intent to register this September the following items from the Outlands' College of Heralds.

This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

1: Algernon Blackwell - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Spelling most important.

[Algernon] - documentation courtesy of Ogress - Algernon Howard; Female; Christening; 02 Mar 1633; SAINT MARTIN IN THE FIELDS, WESTMINSTER, LONDON, ENGLAND; Batch: P00145-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPKT-7QM)

[Blackwell] - Mari Elspeth nic Bryan's Surnames in Chesham, 1538-1600/1, on http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/chesham/chesham-surnames-all.html, Julie Kahan's Surnames in Durham and Northumberland, 1521-1615 at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juetta/parish/surnames_b.html

Submitter specified masculine name on the form but cares more about the name than the "gender" of the name.

Additional Documentation from Scalene:

Algernon Sidney, (born 1622, Penshurst Place, Kent, Eng.--died Dec. 7, 1683, London), English Whig politician executed for allegedly plotting to overthrow the government of King Charles II (ruled 1660-85). His guilt was never conclusively proved, and Whig tradition regarded him as a great republican martyr. "Algernon Sidney". Encyclopædia Britannica. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. Encyclopædia Britannica Inc., 2015. Web. 26 Aug. 2015 <http://www.britannica.com/biography/Algernon-Sidney>.


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

2: Argyle Robertsoun - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of December 26, 2014 as submitted.

Per pall sable, azure and argent, in chief a raven displayed with head facing to sinister argent and in base two mullets of six points argent and azure

The previous submission, Per pall sable, azure and argent, in chief a raven displayed facing sinister argent and in base two mullets of six points counterchanged, was returned on the March 2015 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/03/15-03lar.html#Outlands_returns19) with the following: {This submission is returned for redraw. When using a per pall division, three charges are expected to be co-primaries, one in the center of each section and of roughly similar visual weight. Here the fact that the mullets are much smaller and in base gives the appearance that they are secondary charges and thus this device must be returned for blurring the distinction between co-primary and secondary charges. If the charges had equivalent visual weights, the arrangement of charges would have to be documented: one in the default place, two in base. Additionally, as depicted, the upper sable portion of the field appears smaller that the azure and argent portions and is easily parsed as a chief triangular. On redesign the submitter should make sure that there is no such ambiguity in the depiction. There is a step from period practice for the use of a bird other than an eagle in the displayed posture.}


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

3: Broddi hornabrjótr - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2012, via the Outlands

Vert, a cracked drinking horn argent detailed sable


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

4: Felicita Marina Medici - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2012, via the Outlands

Per bend potent sable and Or, a sun and a cinquefoil counterchanged


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

5: Gabriel Robertson - New Name & New Device

Per bend gules and argent, a wolf courant contourny counterchanged sable and argent

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Documentation provided by Maridonna Benvenuti:

[Gabriel] - Some 16th & 17th C Welsh Masculine Names by Sara L. Friedemann (Aryanhwy merch Catmael) shows two Gabriel Lewis, possibly the same person, dated to 1587, 1615 and 1602. http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh/welsh.html Also DMNES, Gabriel, England shows the spelling of Gabriel dated to 1594 and 1598, http://dmnes.org/name/Gabriel

[Robertson] - R&W, s.n. Robertson, Roberson: Robertsone 1327, Roberdeson 1354, Robersoun 1450, Robertsoune 1464. `Son of Robert'


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

6: Genevieve Chastain - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of August 31, 2015 as submitted.

Per pale dovetailed sable and gules, a wolf rampant argent maintaining in its forepaws an arrow Or and a lion rampant to sinister Or maintaining in its forepaws an arrow argent


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

7: Heinric von Drachenburg - Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of December 26, 2014 as submitted.

(Fieldless) A cross formy fitchy argent sustained by a dragon sable garnished gules

The previous badge, (Fieldless) A cross formy fitchy argent overall a dragon sable bellied gules, was returned on the April 2015 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/04/15-04lar.html#Outlands_returns17) with the following: {This device is returned for having a "barely overall" charge. SENA Appendix I, Charge Group Theory, in defining overall charges states "An overall charge must have a significant portion on the field; a design with a charge that has only a little bit sticking over the edges of an underlying charge is known as "barely overall" and is not registerable." Here, more of the dragon is on the cross than on the field.}


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

8: Isleif of Bloodstone - Resub Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Counter-ermine, on a pile embattled argent a heart gules

The previous submission, Counter-ermine, on a triangular chief embattled argent a heart gules, was returned on the January 2015 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/01/15-01lar.html#Outlands_returns16) with the following: {This device is returned for using a chief triangular embattled, which has long been disallowed: [A chief triangular embattled] With very rare exceptions (e.g. in combination with enarched lines), the use of two or more complex lines on the same charge is confusing, and unattested in period armory. (Wavy raguly? Embattled rayonny? I think not.) In this case, the chief could be either embattled or triangular -- but not both. (Johann Götz Kauffman von Erfurt, December, 1992, pg. 20)}


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

9: Jacquelyna de la Roche - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language (Either French or Flemish is preferred) most important.
Culture (Either French or Flemish is preferred) most important.

Jacquelyna - This name can be found in the Late Period Feminine Names from the South of France by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) at the Academy of Saint Gabriel website. (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/latefrenchfem/)

du Roche - This name can be found in a document at the Academy of Saint Gabriel website titled "French Names from Two Thirteenth Century Chronicles" by Arval Benicoeur (Josh Mittleman) NOTE: de + le roche would be changed to du Roche to mean from the town of le Roche according to the documentation. (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/crusades/crusadesLieux.html)

Additional support and documentation provided by Wreath and Ogress:

Note that the article says that "de+le" would contract in "du", which is correct, but the actual place name in the same article is "la Roche" (feminine form). "de + la" doesn't contract and the expected form would be "de la Roche"

Unfortunately Arval's article modernizes names. However, <de la Roche> is found as a byname as <Jehan de la Roche> dated to 1475 in "Names from Choisy, France, 1475-1478" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/french/choisy.html).

Originally submitted as <Jacquelyna du Roche> but was changed by Kingdom, with the submitter's permission, to <Jacquelyna de la Roche> as documentation shows <Roche> as a feminine element and the proper contraction is <de la>.


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

10: Magdalena Lucia Ramberti - Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2009, via the Outlands

(Fieldless) A peacock close erminois

The previous submission, (Fieldless) A lion of Saint Mark sejant, dexter forepaw raised Or, was returned on the November 2014 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/11/14-11lar.html#Outlands_returns20) with the following: {This lovely badge is returned for conflict with the device of Leonessa des Belles Fleures: Azure, a winged lion sejant Or, beneath the forepaws two garden roses argent, stalked and leaved proper. There is a DC for the difference between fieldless and fielded designs but no difference for the maintained roses and no difference for the halo, which is considered a maintained charge.}


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

11: Ragnvaldr of Rendlesham - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of November 30, 2014 as submitted.

Per bend argent and gules, two valknuts counterchanged

The previous submission, Gules, on a bend argent two triangles voided gules and in sinister canton a key and a feather in saltire argent, was returned on the February 2015 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/02/15-02lar.html#Outlands_returns33) with the following: {This device is returned for using voided tertiary charges. SENA A3C states that "Voiding and fimbriation may only be used with ordinaries or simple geometric charges when they are part of a primary charge group". Blazoned on the Letter of Intent as Greek letters delta, the only way in which they could be blazed as letters is in the orientation "inverted bendwise sinister." In that orientation, any identity as letter is lost. As such, they must be considered voided triangles, which are not allowed. If oriented in their default position (along the bend) or palewise, they could be registered as letters.}


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

12: Tachibana Hideaki - New Name & New Device

Azure, a natural tiger's head cabossed argent marked sable, and on a chief wavy argent three triskeles sable

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (As close as possible to the submission) most important.
Language (Medieval Japan) most important.
Culture (Medieval Japan) most important.

[Tachibana] - [NCMJ] pg 327 dates "Tachi ́bana" to 1147 and 1600, suggesting that it was used throughout the medieval period. The form "Tachibana" appears in the tables "Some surnames of families active prior to 1600" and "Surnames of kuge familes" in Nihon Zatsuroku's "Japanese Names" at http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/names.html

[Hideaki] - [NCMJ] pg 334 dates "Hideaki" to 1392


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

13: Tóki Fleinn - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.

[Tóki] - [Geirr Bassi] p. 15 s.n. Tóki (information via http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml#t under the header 'Tóki, Túki, Týki')

[Fleinn] - documentation courtesy of ffride wlffsdotter - Lind Personbinamn col. 83 sn. Fleinn <{Ae}rikr flæin> dative, 1374-5. The normalised byname <fleinn>


This item was on the 12-2015 LoAR

14: Torin of Norwood and Michael Vladimir Gerewolf - New Household Name & New Badge

OSCAR finds the name (Torin of Norwood) registered exactly as it appears in February of 1989, via the West
OSCAR finds the name (Michael Vladimir Gerewolf) registered exactly as it appears in June of 1990, via the West

Hus Vanagandr

Sable, on a pale argent in pale a wolf's head erased sable and a sword fesswise gules

No major changes.
Language (old norse) most important.
Culture (old norse) most important.
Meaning (old norse) most important.

[Hus] - Old Norse - "house"

[Vanagandr] - Old Norse via Norse Mythology - "monster of the river van"

Originally submitted as <Hus Vanagandral> but the <-al> was dropped by Kingdom, with submitter's approval, after internal commentors noted confusion of the Latin additive to an Old Norse name. Submitter is willing to accept the structure of <Vanagandr + possessive + Hus>, based on internal commentary from Ogress.

Thoughts on Norse name conventions for Households from Aspen & Ogress:

From http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/3279.txt

"There are some Norwegian farm-names that contain the names of wild animals and birds, but for the most part they seem to have been named for nearby topographical features that were themselves named for the animals. The farm name <Ann{o|}l>, for example, is probably from Old Norse <Arnaho/ll> 'eagles' knoll' or <Arnarho/ll> 'eagle's knoll'. (Here <{o|}> stands for an <o> with a slash through it.) Similarly, the farm-name <Ekset> in S{o|}r-Tr{o|} ndelag is apparently from Old Norse <Igðusetr>, which is literally 'nuthatch's house', from <igða> 'a nuthatch'; it is likely, however, that the name preserves a lost river-name <Igða> and means 'house on the river Igða'. (The river itself would have been named after the bird.)"

So there is some cases of farms/households being named after animals (or geographical features named after animals), though in this case it seems to be only natural animals.

The following is from the Collected Precedents of the S.C.A.: Norse and Scandinavian: From 2002.01 - "There was some question about whether a Viking-era farm name is an appropriate model for a household name. Since we register household names based on late-period English manors, a Viking-era farm name is similarly registerable. [Ságadís Duncansdaughter and Sigmundr Hákonsson, 01/02, R-Drachenwald]"

More directly relevant, from 2002.08 - "Sága is the name of a Norse Goddess, and was probably used in a period farm name, spelled Saagho- or Saghones. While these are not given names, but rather household names, this shows the use of Sága in a period name. That Sága was a name of a Goddess is confirmed by Kvaran and Jónsson in Nöfn Íslendinga where they say that Sága was the name of one of the Ás (Norse Gods)." This would seem to indicate a possible precedent for the use of a mythological name in Old Norse household naming conventions.

The only documented pattern for Norse names using <Hus> is [person's name in the possessive form] + hus. The June 2013 LoAR acceptance of the Old Norse household name Rauðagalta hus states: [E]xamples of given name + house include the late period Aachkhuus derived from the Old Norse "Aki's house;" Palshus "Pall's house" and Siffuerhuus "Sigurð's house. The first citation is from Talan Gwynek's "Place-Names in Landnámabók"; the remainder are from O. Rygh's Norske Gaardnavne.

Correction to Household Name (2015-Oct-30 18:10:03): The Household Name form has it just being registered to Torin of Norwood, and the badge is jointly owned by Torin of Norwood and Michael Vladimir Gerewolf to be associated with the Household. Should have been two separate items, my apologies. - Khalidah, Rampart Herald


Thus ends the September 2015 Letter of Intent.

In Service,

THL Khalidah bint Yahya'a

Rampart Herald


OSCAR counts 5 New Names, 1 New Household Name, 4 New Devices and 2 New Badges. These 12 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $36 for them. OSCAR counts 3 Resub Devices and 2 Resub Badges. These 5 items are not chargeable. There are a total of 17 items submitted on this letter.

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