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Outlands LoP dated 2015-06-30

Unto the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 29th day of June, A.S. L (2015 CE), does Lord Gauvain Eisenbein send greetings on behalf of Baron Randal Carrick, White Stag Principal Herald.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands' Letter of Presentation for June, 2015.

For all resubmissions (names *AND* devices), please include where the previous submission was returned. This makes it dramatically easier to give the submitter credit for the previous submission. As always, I am requesting an emailed text copy of all name write-ups. Simple is better as the emailed text keeps me from having to retype the submission text with concurrent error introduction.

Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by July 14th, 2015, for the decision meeting on July 15th, 2015. As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.

1: Ailith Dreki -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for 10th to 12th century irish/scandanavian.
Sound (given closely to alice (modern)) most important.
Language (irish/scandanavian melding) most important.
Culture (irish/scandanavian melding) most important.

[Ailith] - [Withycombe], under Aldith, dated to 1086

[dreki] - From the January 2011 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/01/11-01lar.html) - "However, both dreki and tunga can be constructed as independent bynames. The word dreki was used as the name of a type of ship (discussed for example in Judith Jesch, Ships and Men in the Late Viking Age). Other kinds of ships are used in bynames: koggi 'cog' is found as a byname, while knarrar 'merchant ship's' and skeiðar 'war ship's' are used in compound bynames (all from Geirr Bassi). Therefore dreki 'dragon ship' follows a pattern of the use of ship types in bynames"

Under SENA Appendix C, Irish/Gaelic can be mixed with Scandanavian before 1100.

Consulting Herald: Khalida bint Yahya'a


2: al-Barran, Barony of -Resub Order Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in of at some point,

Order of Scorpius Punctum

No major changes.
Meaning (The hole left by the prick of a scorpion's aculeus) most important.

The name of this order was previously submitted as Sculpturatus Punctum, and returned by Kingdom on the March 2007 LOR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/01/11-01lar.html) stating commentors indicate that the Latin submitted for the order name has a translation of "He who has been sculpted puncture). The standard Latin words for (scorpion) and (Scorpio) and (Scorpius). Other commentors felt that the term (punctume) with the offereed translation of (prick) may be considered vulag and vilate Rfs IV.1 - Vulgar Names.

We are resubitting this request with the change in Latin for Scorpion to Scorpius. We submit that the word punctum is not vulgar as evidenced in its etymology. The etymology if the word point states c.1200, "Minute amount, single item in a whole; sharp end of a sword, etc...," a merger of two words ultimately from Latine pungere "prick, pierce, puncture"... The Latin neuter past participle punctum was used as a noun meanint "small hole made by pricking," subsequently extended to anything that looking like one, hence, "dot, particle," etc. This yeilded the Old french point "dot: smallest amount," which was borrowed in Middle English by C. 1300 (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=point&allowed_in_frame=0)

Consulting Herald: Searlaith inghean Robeaird


3: al-Barran, Barony of -New Order Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in of at some point,

Order of the Kaun

No major changes.

al-Barran, Barony of - this name was registered at some point (misspelled registration in Atenveldt in 1986 of Al-Barran, Barony of possibly). The following device associated with this name was registered in July of 1974 (via Atenveldt): Sable, a chevron argent, overall a scorpion and in a base a laurel wreath, both Or. (http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_name.cgi?p=Al-Barran%2c%20Barony%20of)

Previously submitted as Order of the Antares Kano, this order name was returned for lack of documentation. It also was found to violate grammatical patterns by mixing Greek and Anglo-Saon/Norse languages. It was returned by Kingdom in the August 2006 LOR.

Commentary on the badge originally submitted with this name on the December 2006 LOAR by Metron Ariston states "The most common name would appear to be kaun or (usually considered reconstructed) kaunan with kenaz as a less common alternative.".

In "Thought Signs: The Semiotics of Symbols" by Carl G. Liungman, he states the rune named Kaun or kaen is associated with the openings and opening up, according to the Anglo-Saxon runic tradition. The sign < belongs to the earliest run alphabet or futhark, so called after the sounds of the first six runes."

Consulting Herald: Searlaith inghean Robeaird


4: Bernardo dei Medici -New Household Name & New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Free Company of the Silver Sun

(Fieldless) A sun sable eclipsed argent

Submitter has no desire as to gender.
Sound (Silver Sun) most important.
Meaning (Silver Sun) most important.

[Free Company] - Per the November 2014 LOAR cover letter, this is an acceptable designator for households. "For another submission, Green Staff documented the designator Free Company in pre-1650 records from Ireland and England and its colonies in the Americas. For example, a petition to establish a free company of adventurers is dated to 1648 [Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England: 1642-1649 (http://books.google.com/books?id=Ei40AQAAMAAJ, p. 138)]. The creation of a free companie in the colony of Virginia is mentioned in 1622 [The Records of the Virginia Company of London (http://books.google.com/books?id=eqQ8AQAAIAAJ, p. 605)].

Just as with the designator Company (see the May 2013 Cover Letter), Fellowship and its cognates can now be used as a designator for any suitable non-personal name. Free Company can be used as a designator for household names. The use of each designator must be appropriate for the type of non-personal name being submitted." 11/2014 Cover Letter (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/11/14-11cl.html#1)

This name follows the pattern of Color + Charge/Object.

[Silver] - The Oxford English Dictionary (s.v. silver) dates this spelling to 1591, though other spellings are found as early as the 9th century.

[Sun] - The Middle English Dictionary (s.v. sonne) dates this spelling to a. 1400 or a. 1325. As a heraldic charge, the online PicDic states that it was used as early as c. 1255. (http://mistholme.com/dictionary/sun/)

Consulting Herald: Christopher Devereaux


5: Dagun Tngri -New Name & New Device

Azure, a fret Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for 14th century Mongolian.
Sound most important.

Name documentation from Mongolian Naming Practices.

first name Dagun

Last name Tngri

Consulting Herald: Geua filia Guy

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-06-29/23-33-17_dagun1.jpg


6: Gilbert le Verrat -New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for 14-15th Century French.
Language (14-15th Century French) most important.
Culture (14-15th Century French) most important.
Meaning (Gilbert, the) most important.

Gilbert can be found in the Academy of Saint Gabriel document of French/Occitan Names from the XII Century (G). The names were taken from La chanson de la coisade albigeoise de Guillame de Tulède (ISBN 2-253-05084-9). Gilbert is listed as the modern French spelling of Gilabert (Occitan spelling). My client would prefer Gilbert, but will accept the change to the Occitan spelling if necessary. (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ramon/occitan/occitan_g.html)

He is also amenable to changing the spelling to Guilbert (referended one time with a date of 1563) as chronicled in the "Names from Lallaing 1384-1600: Masculine Given Names" by Domhnall na Moicheirghe

(http://heraldry.sca.org/names/lallaing/lallaing_names_masculine_given.html)

Verrat is a French word meanign boar according to the Oxford French-English dictionary. According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary the origin of the word boar is from Middle English "bor" and its first known use was before the 12th Century. It is presumed that the word was also in use at this time in France.

Verrat can be documented as a byname around 1620 using Family Search, but this herald is uncertain if the references can be used for documentation purposes:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:9F66-MC5 AND https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:9KMM-BSP

Consulting Herald: Saerlaith inghean Robeaird


7: Ingiðr Rauðkinn -New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Argent, two peacocks addorsed reguardant proper within a wreath of roses proper

Consulting Herald: Andros Korkyrates

Correction to Badge (2015-Jun-30 09:06:00): Ingriðr Rauðkinn


8: Phaidra Thebaia -New Name

Submitter has no desire as to gender.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for Greek.
Language (Greek) most important.
Culture (Greek) most important.
Meaning (Phaidra of Thebes) most important.

Phaedra - This name was submitted as recently as March of this year, but as a French given name, not Greek. The documentation in that submittal states: Phaedra was also documented as a name from Greek literature. Since "[t]he story of Phaedra was very well known in period, particularly in Renaissance France" (as noted by Metron Ariston), Phaedra is registerable in this name under the guidelins for use of literary names (see Cover Letter for the February 1999 LoAR for more details). The Greek spelling for Phaedra would be Phaidra.

Thebes - According to Encyclopedia Britannica, Thebes, ancient Egyptian Wase or Wo'se of (from c. 21st century bce) Nowe, or Nuwe is one of hte fame cities of antiguity, the capital of the ancient Egyptian empite at its heydey. The ancient name of Thebes was Wase of Wo'se. The nome (provinc) of Wase, the fourth of Upper Egypt, is known to have existed from the 4th dynasty onward. The earliest monuments that have survived at Thebes proper date from the 11th dynasty (2081-1939 bce), when the local moncarchs (governors) united Egypt under their rule. From this time Thebes frequently served as the royal capital of Egypt and was called Nowe, or Nuwe ("City of Amon"), named for its chief god. The Greek name Thebes (Thebai) may have been derived from Ta-ope, the ancient Egyptian name for Luxor.

Consulting Herald: Saerlaith inghean Robeaird


9: Tariq ibn Yusuf ibn 'Askari al-Ghassani -New Household Name & New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Askar al-Qal'a

Per chevron azure and Or, a scimitar in fess and three lozenges counterchanged

Language (Arabic) most important.
Culture (Arabic) most important.
Meaning (Army of the Fort) most important.

[Askar] -- "askar [sic] a medieval Arabic word for the household troops of a leader; a kind of standing army." from The Hutchinson Dictionary of Ancient & Medieval Warfare by Matthew Bennett (1998).

Al-Askar is listed as a suburb of Cairo that originated as a military camp during the time of the Abassid Caliphate between the 7th and 9th centuries

in the description of historic Cairo on the UNESCO World Heritage site. (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/89)

Askar also appears three times in A Manual of Musalman Numismatics by O. Codrington (1904) as a reference to minting towns and the empires that established them: Askar Panjhir ("Army of Panjhir"), Samanid Empire (819-999 AD). Askar Mukram, Abassid Caliphate (750-1258 AD) and Buwayhid Dynasty (934-1062 AD). Askar min al-Ahwaz, Buwayhid Dynasty (934-1062 AD).

[al-Qal'a] -- "Fort" as a locative. Historical examples from UNESCO World Heritage sites include: The Qal'a of Beni Hammad, founded in 1007 AD and abandoned in 1190. (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/102/)

Alcalá de Henares, which took its name from the fortress of Al-Qal'at established by the Emirate of Cordoba during the Moorish invasion of Spain, becoming Alcalá de Henares after its recapture in 1118 AD. (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/876)

Qal'at al-Bahrain, which existed as a coastal fortress from the 3rd to 16th Centuries AD, and has been in existence as a settlement since 2300 BC. (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1192)

Additionally, de Alcala and de Alcalá both appear as locative surnames in "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith (2000). (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/isabella/)

Consulting Herald: Christopher Devereaux

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-06-29/23-18-01_askar1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-06-29/23-18-02_askar2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-06-29/23-18-03_askar3.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-06-29/23-18-04_askar4.jpg
#5 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1489/2015-06-29/23-18-05_askar5.jpg


10: Tatiana Bonnieux -New Name & New Device

Azure, a chevron cotised between a rapier fesswise reversed and a cross flury argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

Tatiana: My legal name.

Bonnieux: Dictionnaire etymologique des nomes de Famille et prenoms de France by Albert Dauzat pg. 52 under 'Bonnieux'.

Consulting Herald: Eirikr Morrison


Thus ends the June 2015 Letter of Presentation.

In Service,

Gauvain Eisenbein

Castle Herald


OSCAR counts 5 Names, 2 Household Names, 2 Order Names, 2 Devices and 3 Badges. There are a total of 14 items submitted on this letter.

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