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Drachenwald LoI dated 2015-02-28

Unto Andrewe Laurel, Lillia Pelican, and Brunissende Wreath, greetings from Constanza Thamesreach alias Albion.

It is the intent of the Drachenwald College of Arms that the following submissions be registered. I would like to thank Magnus von Lübeck, Gawain Green Anchor, Aryanhwy Schwarzdrachen, ffride wlffsdotter, Michael Gerard Curtememoire, Nicholas Rockall, Þóra Edelweiss, Juetta Copin, Aria Gemina Mala, Asbiorn inn eyverski, and Johann Susi for their useful commentary this month.

This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

1: Alays de Lunel - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Drachenwald LoI of July 22, 2014 as submitted.

Vert, on a bend sinister argent three quavers sable palewise, in canton a crescent Or.

Name registered October 2014 via Drachenwald.


This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

2: Catlin le Mareschale - New Name & New Device

Purpure, an otter's head cabossed and in chief three acorns Or.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Spelling most important.

<Catlin> appears in the Family Search Historical Records as a female English given name:

Catlin Bowto.; Female; Marriage; 22 Sep 1583; Wisborough Green, Sussex, England; Batch: M07130-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N22C-YXK)

<Adam le Mareschale> is dated to 1341 in Fransson, "Middle English Surnames of Occupation: 1100-1330" on page 144.

There are numerous examples in English of women using <le> with occupational bynames. R&W s.n. Shipster has Matilda le Scipstere (1320); s.n. Dryer has Alice le Dreyster' (1292); s.n. Porter has Alice le Porters (1330); s.n. Verger has Matilda le Virger (1327)

So the combination of <le Mareschale> with a female given name would be consistent with Middle English practices.

This is clear of <Catherine de Mares> (reg. 01/1992 via Atlantia), by addition of the syllable <-chale>. It's clear of <Clara Marschall> (reg. 12/2008 via Ansteorra), as the given names are significantly different.


This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

3: Esbiorn Jensson - New Name Change & New Device Change

OSCAR NOTE: filing name should not be registered for a primary name change. It was, in in May of 2015, via Drachenwald.

Azure, on a cross moline argent five fleurs-de-lys gules

Old Item: Ásbiorn inn eyverski, to be retained as an alternate name.
Old Item: Azure, a bear rampant and in chief three Thor's hammers argent., to be retained as a badge.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language (Danish 15-16th C) most important.
Culture (Danish 15-16th C) most important.

Per St. Gabriel report number 2323 (http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/2323.txt:

"Danish forms of the name are recorded throughout the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries; the likely Danish spelling would be <Esbern> in the late 14th and early 15th centuries, <Esbiorn>, <Esborn>, <Esbørn>, or <Esbiørn> in the late 15th century, and <Esbiorn> c.1500."

....

"In Danish documents, the patronymic you want appears commonly as <Jenss:>, <Jonss:>, and <J{o|}nss:> [8]. The abbreviation <Jenss:> probably stood for <Jensson> in the 14th and 15th century, <Jenssen> in the 16th. We found a few examples of <-s{o|}n> in 15th century documents, <-zen> and <-zenn> in 16th century documents [9]."

His previous arms were registered 01/2010 via Drachenwald.


This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

4: Kingeslake, College of - New Branch Name & New Device

Quarterly argent and Or, a phoenix rising from the flames within a laurel wreath gules.

Constructed name based on the pattern of [King's] + [geographic feature] shown in Ekwall (for example)

<Kingesdon> (1177)- the king's dun;

<Kingessettle> (1251)- the king's seat;

<Kingeslan> (1213)- the king's land;

<Kingesnade>81278)- the king's wood.

Middle English Dictionary http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/med/lookup.html

s.n. king (n.) 5. (b) in place names

(1382) Inquis.Miscel.(PRO) 4.118: [A meadow called] Kyngesmede.

(1394) Inquis.Miscel.(PRO) 6.28: [A wood called] Kyngeswode [near Aulton].

s.n. lāk(e (n.(1)) 4. (b) in place names

(c1250) EPNSoc.2 (Bck.) 258: Sutlake.

(1250) EPNSoc.10 (Nhp.) 90: Chaldelacke.

(1277) Deed Norris in LCRS 93 164: [Following] le Blakelake [which falls into Dogles].

(1337) EPNSoc.12 (Ess.) 583: Le Oueretharwerelake.

(1341) EPNSoc.16 (Wil.) 438: Fernelake.

(1348) EPNSoc.2 (Bck.) 258: Berlake.

(c1360) EPNSoc.24 (Oxf.) 329: Stanelake.

(1368) EPNSoc.24 (Oxf.) 366: Babbelake.

(1398) Inquis.Miscel.(PRO) 6.234: [A meadow called] Lakemede.

(1419) EPNSoc.16 (Wil.) 438: Waltereslake.

c1460 Oseney Reg. 180/9: In the litull Riuer that is i-callid Karsewelle lake.

-?-(1377) Tenants in Som.Dor.NQ 13 274: Thei of Lye and Chetnolle shall not comyn to north the Downe lake and the Grene Wey lying to stake Voods not or Michaell eve.

Petition on file.

Petition on file.

This is a replacement emblazon approved by the College to correct the issue of the style of flames raised during internal commentary. Written permission to alter the flames was sent to Albion and Edelweiss.

Correction to Device (2015-Feb-28 11:02:08): Blazon should read:

"Quarterly argent and Or, a phoenix gules rising from flames proper within a laurel wreath gules."


This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

5: Rāshid al-Jallāb - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name on the Drachenwald LoI of June 30, 2014 as submitted.

(Fieldless) A cross formy per pale azure and sable.

Name registered 09/14 via Drachenwald.


This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

6: Sigurðr Magnus sun - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Drachenwald LoI of July 22, 2014 as submitted.

Per bend vert and sable, a pithon erect, tail nowed, and a bordure Or.


This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

7: Þora Sumarliðadóttir and Eadric the Potter - New Household Name

OSCAR finds the name (Þora Sumarliðadóttir) registered exactly as it appears in April of 2010, via Drachenwald
OSCAR finds the name (Eadric the Potter) registered exactly as it appears in December of 2007, via Atlantia

Free Company of Saint Lawrence

<Free Company> as household designator- see the November 2014 LoAR cover letter

<Saint Lawrence> is the lingua anglica form for the saint (225-258 CE) who was a Roman Deacon under Pope Sixtus II. St. Lawrence was widely venerated throughout the SCA period, as can supported by numerous artistic depictions. In addition, the Basilica of St. Lawrence outside the Walls is one of the major basilicas of Rome, large portions of which was built in 12th-13th C.

Originally submitted with the abbreviation "St.", this has been expanded to "Saint".

Clear of <Compagnia di San Lorenzo> (registered April 2005 via Atlantia) per SENA NPN.3.C.2:

The addition or removal of a syllable makes two names substantially different in sound.

Commentors discussed whether this would conflict with the St. Lawrence River. However, Edelweiss points out that while the St. Lawrence River is a major new-world waterway, it is not the exclusive use of the name for geographical features, nor are they all in proximity to to this river, for example <St. Lawrence Bay> and <St. Lawrence Island> in Alaska.


This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

8: Umeno O-Tori - New Name & New Device

Sable, three roses conjoined one and two within and conjoined to an annulet argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.

<Umeno> found in "The Moneylenders of Late Medieval Kyoto" (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=K8Wgq4_E6acC&pg=PA38&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=3#v=onepage&q& f=false)

<O-Tori> Created using NCMJ

The submitter is willing to remove/change the hyphen in <O-Tori> if needed.

Ume + no (plum + field), O + Tori (feminine prefix + bird)


This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

9: Umeno O-Tori - New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) Three roses one and two conjoined within and conjoined to an annulet sable.


This item was on the 05-2015 LoAR

10: Valeria di Ciesenatico - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2013, via Drachenwald

Azure, a dolphin urinant and on a chief argent three estoiles sable.


In service,

Lady Constanza,

Albion


OSCAR counts 2 New Names, 1 New Name Change, 1 New Household Name, 1 New Branch Name, 6 New Devices, 1 New Device Change and 2 New Badges. These 14 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $42 for them. There are a total of 14 items submitted on this letter.

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