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Outlands LoI dated 2014-10-28

From the Office of Rampart Herald

Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a (Nicole Riviezzo)

rampart@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Sovereigns and members of the College of Arms of the Society, does Khalidah bint Yahya'a, Rampart Herald send her greetings.

What follows is the October 2014 Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of the Outlands.

I would like to thank Green Anchor, Blue Tyger, Goutte d'Eau, Eyas, and all of the heralds who were kind enough to contribute comments on OSCAR.

It is my intent to register this October the following items from the Outlands' College of Heralds.

This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

1: Aedan Corbet - New Name & New Device

Sable, on a chevron cotissed argent three lozenges gules and in base a goblet Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.
Meaning most important.

[Aedan] - "Cornish (and Other) Personal Names from the 10th Century Bodmin Manumissions" Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/Bodmin/given2.html).

[Corbet] - {R&W} p 109 Rogerius filius <Corbet> 1086 DB (Sa)

Additional Documentation provided by Blue Tyger:

<Corbet> appears as an umarked surname in R&W dated to 1158, which is still within 300 years of the 10th cen. date for <Aedan>

With the submitter's permission, a goutte in base was removed by Kingdom after internal commentary indicated that the device was too complex. Original Emblazon: http://oscar.sca.org/emblazons/Outlands/2014-09/aedan-c.jpg


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

2: Aesilæif of Bloodstone - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of September 25, 2014 as submitted.

Counter-Ermine, on a triangular chief embattled argent a heart gules

Originally submitted with the name <Isleif of Bloodstone> but the name was changed on the September 2014 LoI (https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=2848), with the submitter's permission, to be consistent with the documentation.


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3: Ásfríðr Ríksdóttir - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Old Norse.
Language (Viking) most important.
Culture (Viking) most important.

Documentation is from http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONNames.shtml#general_info and http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONWomensNames.shtml

Additional Documentation provided by Goutte d'Eau:

Ásfríðr is in Nordiskt runnamnslexikon (http://www.sprakochfolkminnen.se/om-oss/arkiv-och-samlingar/nordiskt-runnamnslexikon.html and http://www.sprakochfolkminnen.se/download/18.41318b8514835190952b54/1410521140015/Nordiskt+runnamnsl exikon+2007.pdf) page 26 of the PDF.

<Ríkr> also appears in Nordiskt runnamnslexikon page 172, with a question mark, as the two runic examples may instead be <Hringr> or <Rinkr>.

<Ríkr> in the genitive becomes <Ríks>, hence <Ríksdóttir>. With all accents included, this would be either <Ásfríðr Ríksdóttir>. Without accents, these would be <Asfriðr Riksdottir>.

Kingdom changed <Riksdottir> to <Ríksdóttir> to keep the accents consistent through out the whole name.


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4: Bono de Vizcaya - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2013, via the Outlands

Azure, on a castle of three towers Or a cross couped azure, within a bordure Or semy-de-lys azure

The emblazon was adjusted, with the submitter's permission, as commentors noted that the original masonry on the towers was too heavy making the cross unidentifiable. The submitter's form will not match the updated emblazon as the new emblazon was provided by Orle in commentary. The original emblazon: http://oscar.sca.org/emblazons/Outlands/2014-09/bono-c.jpg


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5: Cecilia Juetta - New Name & New Device

Per pale vert and sable, a chevron between two dragons combatant and an increscent argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.
Spelling most important.

[Cecilia] - {Withycombe} p. 60-61 "Cecilia Cur 1197-1219, HR 1273, FA 1428"

[Jouet] - {R&W} p. 257 "William Jouet 1299 AssSt"

The previous submission, Cecilia Juetta, was returned on the September 2010 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2010-08-lop/1009-lor.html) with the following: {The name is RETURNED for lack of a surname. As documented, this is actually two given names. A surname is needed (RfS III.2a.). No documentation of "Juetta" as a surname is provided.}

However, Blue Tyger was able to document <Juetta> during the internal commentary. {The September 2010 return was in error. <Cecilia Juetta> is registerable because <Juetta> is an unmarked matronymic, which are found in Middle and Early Modern English per Appendix A of SENA. (http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixA). <Juetta> is dated to 1189-99, 1201, 1212 and 1214 s.n. Juliana in Talan Gwynek's "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyHZ.html). That's late enough for Middle English and for <Juetta> as an unmarked matronym.}

Kingdom consulted with the submitter and the submitter would prefer <Cecilia Juetta> so Kingdom changed <Cecilia Jouet> to <Cecilia Juetta> in accordance with the preference. The submitter is still open to the use of <Jouet> should <Juetta> not be usable as an unmarked matronym.


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

6: Cecilia Trethewy - New Name & New Device

Or, an ash tree eradicated proper, in chief three trefoils all within a bordure vert

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.
Spelling most important.

[Cecilia] - {Withycombe} p. 61 "Cecilia Cur 1197-1219, HR 1273, FA 1428"

[Trethewy] - {R&W} p. 454 "Henry de Trethewy 1297"


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7: Connor Buchanan of Loch Lomond - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound most important.

Originally submitted as <Connor Mac Buchanan of Loch Lomond>. It was changed, with the submitter's permission, to <Connor Buchanan of Loch Lomond> by Kingdom based on the commentary that <Buchanan> is a family name and not a given name.

The submitter's original documentation was 16 pages of attachments with no summary. Fortunately for Kingdom's sanity, Blue Tyger & Goutte d'Eau were kind enough to provide condensed documentation.

<Connor> is an Anglicized Irish male name found s.n. Connor in "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents" by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml) dated to 1597 through 1600 and later.

<Buchanan> - <Ann Buchanan> mother of the groom, 1587, England. Batch no. P00123-1 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7W4-SFH)

<Loch Lomond> is Lingua Anglica form of the place recorded as <Lochlomond> in a. 1350 s.n. Lomond, Loch in Johnston's Place Names of Scotland, an Appendix H source.


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8: Cuhelyn of Northanhymbre - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for 10th century Northumbrian.
Meaning most important.

[Cuhelyn] - "The First Thousand Years of British Names Appendices IV and V" Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/appendix4_5.html)

[Northanhymbre] - "Encyclopedia Britannica Online" (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/420023/Northumbria)

Schwarzdrachen notes:

<Cuhelyn> is not documented in Tangwystyl's article. It is listed as the standard modern form of a name recorded as <Cuelino> in the Book of Llan Dav.


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9: Edmund Peregrine - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2010, via the Outlands

Gules, in fess two keys wards to chief within an orle of roundels Or


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10: Elieth de Salazar - New Name & New Device

Gules, on a chevron throughout argent between two Crosses of Santiago and a G-clef Or, a Cross of Santiago gules

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language (Spain, 15th C) most important.
Culture (Spain, 15th C) most important.

[Elieth] - Submitter's given name. Scan of Driver's License provided.

[de Salazar] - Spanish locative surname. Found in "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith), retrieved from: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/locative.html


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11: Elyse Joulle - New Name & New Device

Per bend Or and azure, a fireball per bend gules and argent between in bend sinister a trillium inverted gules and a thimble argent

[Elyse] - Elyse Far was christened 7 Jun 1578 in Crediton, Devon, England, Extracted records batch C050741

[Jouell] - {R&W} under header Joel: John Joulle 1579 Bardsley


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

12: Gabriela Wendin - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in April of 2006, via the Outlands

Quarterly azure and vert, a G-clef Or


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

13: Gwen de la Cumbe - New Name & New Device

Per pale sable and azure, a horse rampant contourny and on a base argent three horse shoes inverted gules

Sound most important.

[Gwen] - "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names" Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html) dates "Gwen" to the 13th century.

[de la Cumbe] - "Feminine names from Devon, 1238" Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/devonfem1238.html)


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14: Halima bint Tariq al-Ghassani - New Name & New Device

Argent, two wolves combatant gules maintaining scimitars Or, and on a point pointed gules, a chalice Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Meaning (Halima, daughter of Tariq, of the tribe Ghassan) most important.

This name follows the format of ism + nasab + nisba

[Halima] - ism/given name. Found in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Da'ud ibn Auda. Retrieved from: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm

[bint Tariq] - nasab/patronymic. "Daughter of Tariq" -- Tariq is found in "Andalusian Names: Arabs in Spain" by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith). Retrieved from: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/andalusia.html

[al-Ghassani] - nisba/tribal byname indicating descent. Found in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Da'ud ibn Auda. Retrieved from: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm

Some internal commentors felt that <al-Ghassani> should be feminized but Kingdom felt that <al-Ghassani> applies to <Tariq> so <al-Ghassani> does not need to be feminized. In order to help the name along, the submitter was contacted to see if they would allow <al-Ghassani> to be feminized. The submitter is willing to redact the 'No Major Changes' in the event where <al-Ghassani> needs to be feminized to have the name registered.


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

15: Hrolf Jamesson - New Name & New Device

Gyronny arrondi vert and Or, eight spearheads outward in annulo counterchanged argent and sable

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No holding name.
No major changes.

Mixing Old English and Middle English in a name is registerable, though it is a weirdness (see Saxsa Corduan, LoAR of October 2001)

The name Jamesson is dated to 1379 and is documented as a subsidiary header in {R&R}, s.n Jameson

8/1/2014, The British National Archives, http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/?_q=hrolf mentions "Hrolf, free man" in a number of Little Domesday Books dated 1086

Additional Documentation provided for <Jamesson> provided by Goutte d'Eau:

<Katheren Jamesson> christened 1600, England. Batch no. P01144-1 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5GC-KR8)


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

16: Iago Martyn - New Name & New Device

Sable, a chess rook and on a chief argent, three chess pawns gules

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.
Spelling most important.

[Iago] - "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names" Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html) - male given name

[Martyn] - "Monumental Brass Enscriptions - Surnames I - Z" (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/brasses/lastnameIZ.htm)


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17: Jacobus Locard - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2014, via the Outlands

(Fieldless) A fetterlock gules


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18: James MacPhearson - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound most important.

The name "James MacPhearson of Kirkcaldy" was registered in May of 1989 (via An Tir)

[James] - "Names from 13th Century Scottish Parliamentary Records" Alys Mackyntoich (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/Namesfrom13thCenturyScottishParliamentaryRecords.html) documents 'James' as early as the 13th century

Additional Documentation provided by Blue Tyger:

I find the spelling <McPhearsone> and <McPhearsoun> dated to 1649 in a Scots language record in Records of the Parliaments of Scotland to 1707 (http://www.rps.ac.uk/mss/1649/5/50). <MacPhearson> seems a reasonable variant given these two examples. Note that the name would have to expand to <MacPhearson> for registration, because Mc- is a scribal abbreviation.

Bringing the given name into the same time period, <James> appears multiple times in a Scots language record from the same database dated to 1625 (http://www.rps.ac.uk/mss/A1625/10/1).


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

19: Khalil ibn Tariq al-Ghassani - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Meaning (Khalil son of Tariq, of the tribe of Ghassan) most important.

This name follows the format of ism + nasab + nisba

[Khalil] - ism/given name. Found in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Da'ud ibn Auda. Retrieved from: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm

[ibn Tariq] - nasab/patronymic. "Son of Tariq" -- Tariq is found in "Andalusian Names: Arabs in Spain" by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith). Retrieved from: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/andalusia.html

[al-Ghassani] - nisba/tribal byname indicating descent. Found in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Da'ud ibn Auda. Retrieved from: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

20: Kristoff Karlsson - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.
Meaning most important.

[Kristoff] - "German Names from Nürnberg, 1497" Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html)

[Karlsson] - {GB} p. 12 s.n. Karl


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

21: Perryn Coelbrant - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2007, via the Outlands

Argent, a cat salient azure, in canton an embroiderer's trundle vert


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22: Rosalind of Wellmark - New Augmentation of Arms

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 1992, via the Outlands

Argent, a bend sinister, in bend three roses counterchanged barbed and seeded proper. Augmented in sinister canton on a lozenge ploye argent a cross bottony gules

Augmentation is listed as having been granted on February 18, 2001.

Submitter's original device, Argent, a bend sinister gules, in bend three roses counterchanged barbed and seeded proper, was registered 1992/09 via the Outlands.


This item was on the 01-2015 LoAR

23: Rosalynn Buchanan of Loch Lomond - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.

[Rosalynn] - Scottish Christian Names Dunkling, Leslie Alan pg. 119 under the heading of 'Rose'. No date provided, notated that Rosalynn may have been used in Scotland. (Book Scans attached)

Originally submitted as <Rosalynn MacBuchanan of Loch Lomond>. It was changed, with the submitter's permission, to <Rosa Lynn Buchanan of Loch Lomond> by Kingdom based on the commentary that <Buchanan> is a family name and not a given name.

Submitter's original documentation was 10 pages of attachments and no summary. Fortunately for Kingdom's sanity, Blue Tyger was able to provide condensed documentation for <Buchanan of Loch Lomond> and <Rosa Lynn>.

The spelling <Buchanan> as a family name is found in a Scots-language record dated to 1641 in the Records of the Parliaments of Scotland to 1707 (http://www.rps.ac.uk/mss/A1641/8/1a). It is also found in the Family Search Historical Records for both Scotland and England:

Margaret Buchanan; Female; Marriage; 26 Aug 1601; Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland; Batch: M11982-3 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYMZ-24F)

[no given name] Buchanan; Male; Christening; Sep 1587; Bishop Middleham, Durham, England; Batch: P00123-1 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7W4-SFH)

<Loch Lomond> is Lingua Anglica form of the place recorded as <Lochlomond> in a. 1350 s.n. Lomond, Loch in Johnston's Place Names of Scotland, an Appendix H source.

Using the English documentation for <Buchanan>, one could fairly get <Rosa Lynn Buchanan of Loch Lomond> using a double given name, which is allowable in late period English per Appendix A of SENA.

<Rosa> is found in the Family Search Historical Records:

Rosa Tregas; Female; Marriage; 10 Oct 1568; Steyning, Sussex, England; Batch: M15073-2 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKW8-VN1)

Rosa Butler; Female; Christening; 03 Apr 1595; Stotfold, Bedford, England; Batch: P00377-1 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NB9Z-QQ5)

<Lynn> likewise appears in the Family Search Historical Records:

Lynn Moyes; Female; Marriage; 14 Jul 1570; St Botolph Aldgate, London, England; Batch: M00080-3 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJQQ-V5L)

Mary Lynn Lycense; Female; Marriage; 13 Apr 1609; Bassingbourn, Cambridge, England; Batch: M01480-3 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNDX-1M7)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2014-10-28/16-52-03_rosalynn-1410-name2.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2014-10-28/16-52-05_rosalynn-1410-name3.jpg


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24: Stephen Cumbe - New Name & New Device

Or, a crocodile couchant vert, a base rayonny azure

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No holding name.
No changes.

[Stephen] - "Masculine Given Names Found in the 1296 Lay Subsidy Rolls for Rutland" Karen Larsdatter (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/Rutland/given-masc-alpha.htm) lists "Stephen" as occurring 10 times.

[Cumbe] - {R&W} s.n. Combe dated to 1296


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25: Tariq ibn Yusuf ibn 'Askari al-Ghassani - New Name & New Device

Tariq ibn Yusuf ibn 'Askari al-Ghassani

Per bend indented argent and checky purpure and argent, in sinister chief a horse's head couped contourny sable breathing flames Or fimbriated gules

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language (Arabic, 10th-12th century) most important.
Culture (Arabic, 10th-12th century) most important.

[Tariq] - ism/given name. Found in "Andalusian Names: Arabs in Spain" by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith). Retrieved from: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/andalusia.html

[ibn Yusuf] - nasab/patronymic. Yusuf is found in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Da'ud ibn Auda, retrieved from: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm

[ibn 'Askari] - nasab with a nisba as the ism, per the example in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Da'ud ibn Auda. The nisba 'Askari is found in "Arabic Personal Names from the Futuwwah" on the Academy of St. Gabriel web site, retrieved from: http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mustapha/futuwwah.html

[al-Ghassani] - nisba/tribal surname indicating descent. Found in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Da'ud ibn Auda.

The original color emblazon's clip art of the horse's head had this odd white fimbriation around the sable (as seen in the line emblazon), this fimbriation was colored in by Kingdom and the color emblazon & form updated.


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26: Þórbjǫrn Bjǫrnsson - New Name & New Device

Per pale sable and argent, a sword bendwise between two bear pawprints in bend sinister counterchanged

Language (Norse, 'bear') most important.
Culture (Norse, 'bear') most important.
Meaning (Norse, 'bear') most important.

[Þórbjǫrn] - {Geirr Bassi} p. 16 s.n. Þórbjǫrn

[Bjǫrnsson] - {Geirr Bassi} p. 8 s.n. Bjǫrn, patronymic of father's name plus -sson for 'son of Bjǫrn'


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27: Unna Farulfsdottir - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Language (Viking culture, honoring my father's occupation, and hence his name) most important.
Culture (Viking culture, honoring my father's occupation, and hence his name) most important.
Meaning (Viking culture, honoring my father's occupation, and hence his name) most important.

Submitter's original documentation was incomplete but Orle kind enough to provide documentation:

E. H. Lind (Norsk-Isländska Dopnamn ock Fingerade Namn från Medeltiden. Uppsala: A.-B. Lundequist. 1905-1915. http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009007424) has <Una> as the name of the daughter of an Icelandic settler and <Unna> appearing after the Viking Age (Image #1).

Lena Peterson (Nordiskt runnamnslexikon, http://www.sprakochfolkminnen.se/om-oss/arkiv-och-samlingar/nordiskt-runnamnslexikon.html) shows both <Una> and <Unna> occurring in both Old East Norse and Old West Norse, but you can't tell whether you have the -nn- in a runic inscription (Image #2). Peterson also has the masculine name <Farulfr> (Image #3)

Lind has no West Scandinavian examples of the father's name, but plenty of evidence to construct it as per SENA PN.1.B.2.b.2 (http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#PN1B2b2) (Image #4 & #5):

Farmann

Farmóðr

Farþegn

Brǫndúlfr

Biǫrnúlfr

Fastúlfr

Nefiúlfr

Ráðúlfr

1 - https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=520/2014-09-17/20-11-10_Lind-Unna.jpg

2 - https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=520/2014-09-17/20-11-11_Peterson-Unna.jpg

3 - https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=520/2014-09-17/20-11-11_Peterson-Farulfr.jpg

4 - https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=520/2014-09-17/20-11-11_Lind-Far.jpg

5 - https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=520/2014-09-17/20-11-11_Lind-ulfr.jpg

Green Anchor has noted: The reference for "Farulfr" says it's Old Swedish, which goes well with the given name. G.B does not have it, but it does show the feminine names "Una" and "Unnr". The Viking Answer Lady does have <Una> at http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONWomensNames.shtml#u. Farulfr: http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml#f


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28: Valentina Dupré - New Name & New Device

Argent, three fleur-de-lys in pale vert between two flaunches vert ermined argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No holding name.
No changes.

[Valentina] - Found dated to 1357 in "Late Period Feminine Names from the South of France" Talan Gwynek (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/latefrenchfem.html).

[Dupré] - Appears associated with multiple instances starting in the year 1602 in "Names Found in Ambleny Registers 1578-1616" Kathleen M. O'Brien (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/Ambleny/SurnamesFreq.shtml)


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29: Ysabel de Santiesteban - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Submitter wishes a name based on her legal name. Ysabel can be found on the St. Gabriel website under: Andalusian Names: Arabs in Spain. Santiesteban is documented at www.historiaviva.org/nombres/nombres-cordob15-ing.shtml. She would like an Arabic name from Spain, but wants to be from the town of Santiesteban in Southern Spain.

Originally submitted as <Ysabel de la Santiesteban> with an authenticity request of 'Andalusian between 1300-1500' along with Language/Culture/Meaning of 'Andalusian from Santiesteban' but based on internal commentary, the submitter decided to redact her authenticity request for an Andalusian/Arabic name, and to change the name to <Ysabel de Santiesteban> per the documentation provided by Eyas:

This is a WONDERFUL 15/16th Century Spanish name, but unfortunately, as others have mentioned, it's not Arabic in any fashion. I cannot find a location of "Saniesteban" in Andalusia (but there is "Santisteban del Puerto", per Wikipedia (I know, I know) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_municipalities_in_Ja%C3%A9n... Also, there was no such language as "Andalusian": in al-Andalus they spoke Arabic, in Andalusia they spoke Spanish.

The correct url for the byname documentation is http://www.historiaviva.org/nombres/nombres_cordob15.shtml in Spanish and http://www.historiaviva.org/nombres/nombres_cordob15-ing.shtml in English. The very first line of the English page reads:"The following names are the most common in the registries of the time. The spelling is almost surely modernized." The first line of the Spanish page reads identically.

BUT, I'm able to find the following via Family Search Historical Records:

Antonia Pulido Santiesteban, Christened 21 Jan 1642 in Granada, Spain. Her mother's name is given as Maria De Santisteban. Batch C77543-2, URL: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTGM-C99

So by extension can get her "de Santiesteban as both spellings (with/out the "de") show up in the same record. But without the "la".

Ysabel can be found via http://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/WomensGivenAlpha.html

So, in conclusion we can get her "Ysabel de Santiesteban", but it is neither Andalusian or Arabic.


Thus ends the October 2014 Letter of Intent.

In Service,

Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a

Rampart Herald


OSCAR counts 22 New Names, 18 New Devices, 1 New Badge and 1 New Augmentation of Arms. These 42 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $126 for them. There are a total of 42 items submitted on this letter.

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