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Atenveldt LoP dated 2014-08-21

ATENVELDT COLLEGE OF HERALDS

LETTER OF PRESENTATION

25 August 2014, A.S. XLIX

Unto Their Royal Majesties Cosmo Craven and Elzbieta; Lord Tymothy Smythson, Aten Principal Herald; the Heralds in the Atenveldt College of Heralds; and to All Whom These Presents Come,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

This is the September 2014 Atenveldt Letter of Presentation (it's a bit early); it precedes the Letter of Intent with submissions considered for the next Letter of Intent. Please have commentary to me by 15 September 2014.

1: Caell Robertson -New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2013, via Atenveldt

Sable, a winged manticore gardant Or.

Old Item: Per pale argent and sable, a dolmen counterchanged., to be retained as a badge.

This isn't an heraldic manticore, which has a man's head/face, often with three rows of teeth. This can be blazoned accurately as a bat-winged, scorpion-tailed lion salient gardant.


2: Catharin Syl'vestrova -New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Gyronny azure and Or, four Russian Orthodox crosses two and two counterchanged.

The name was registered June 2014.


3: Elizabeta de Wallachia -New Name & New Device

Sable, a daisy and on a chief double-arched argent three gouts gules.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.

Elizabeta is a Hungarian and a Romanian female given name, found in "Hungarian Feminine Names," Walraven van Nijmegen, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/magfem2.html#thelist.

Wallachia is the southern region of modern Romania, "the Land of the Walachs," the indiginous people of the area. The Olt River divides Wallachia into Muntenia in the east and Oltenia in the west (http://romaniatourism.com/walachia.html).


4: Geoffrey Frost -New Name & New Device

Sable, a chevron argent cotised Or between three lions rampant argent.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Spelling most important.

The name is English. Geoffrey is a masculine given name in "Yorkshire Masculine Names from 1379," Talan Gwynek, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/yorkshire/yorkm.html; it is also the client's legal given name.

Frost is an English surname found in "Names from 15th Century York," Karen Larsdatter, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/york15/.


5: Gideon the Weary -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2010, via Atenveldt

Sable, a dragon Or and a griffin argent segreant addorsed, tails entwined.

The original submission, Per pale argent and sable, a dragon and a griffin segreant addorsed, tails entwined, counterchanged., was returned by Laurel January 2010 for conflict with the device of Balin the Grisley, Per pale argent and sable, two dragons rising addorsed counterchanged, breathing flames and their tails grasped by, in base, a gauntlet counterchanged gules and Or. "The gauntlet is a maintained charge; therefore, there is a single CD for changing a dragon to a griffin.This device is also returned for violating section XI.3 (Marshalling) of the Rules for Submissions, which says "Divisions commonly used for marshalling, such as quarterly or per pale, may only be used in contexts that ensure marshalling is not suggested." Section XI.3.a says that "such fields may be used with identical charges over the entire field, or with complex lines of partition or charges overall that were not used for marshalling in period heraldry." This submission uses non-identical charges on the field and has no complex line of partition or charge overall. Some commenters argued that the entwined tails removed the appearance of marshalling. However, due to the tinctures involved, several people thought that the tails were not entwined, but merely 'bouncing off' each other as they touched the line of division, and remaining within the same half of the field as the monster each is attached to, thus contributing to the appearance of marshalling."

It's a little odd to have the tinctures mentioned so early in the blazon, but it keeps them clear, as well as the postures between the charges.


6: Grace Quinn -New Name & New Device

(device) Argent, three stoppered vials purpure, on a bordure vert a semy of elderflowers argent barbed and seeded Or.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Language (any with Grace as a given name) most important.
Culture (any with Grace as a given name) most important.

Grace is an English feminine vernacular form, 1346-1562 (and preceding this), in "Feminine Given Names in "A Dictionary of English Surnames: Grece," Talan Gwynek, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Grece. Quinne and Quine are English surnames dated 1275, Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, s.n. Quin, Quinn. Quine is also a Manx surname in 1504, Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, s.n. Quine, Quinn. The slight spelling difference seems to be acceptable, with the double -n- in the 1275 spelling (I got nothing for a dropped -e dated citation).

I'm certain that the elderflower, with five petals, will need to be conflict-checked with roses and similar five-petaled blossoms.


7: Grace Quinn -New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) A stoppered vial purpure charged with an elderflower argent barbed and seeded Or.

On both the device and badge forms, purpure appears as a rich, deep purple. The elderflower will have to be conflict-checked against the five-petaled rose.


8: Kevin the Wayfarer -New Name & New Device

Gules, a hart's head cabossed and on a chief Or three estoiles sable.

Kevin is the client's legal given name.

A wayfarer is a traveler, particularly one who goes by foot; this spelling can be dated to 1602, and earlier spelling dates to c. 1440 (COED).

The submission was redrawn at the kingdom level, as the original was colored with wax crayons.


9: Lia de Citolur -Resub Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Per bend sinister azure and vert, on a bend sinister between to semiminims argent a heart palewise gules entwined by a flowering woodbine proper.

The previous submission, Argent, a heart of woodvine vine vert flowered Or and a bordure wavy sable semy of semiminims Or., was returned for a redraw, "for using an unblazonable, unidentifiable vine. No evidence was provided, and none was found by commenters, that a "heart-shape" was a valid arrangement in period armory. Commenters also confused this vine with a laurel wreath, which is a restricted charge, due to the similar shape of the leaves. The flowers depicted on this vine were too small to be noticed. It is unlikely that any vine with similarly shaped leaves depicted in a circular arrangement would not be confused with a laurel wreath."

I don't know if some of the issues with the vine have been addressed, but the charge on the bend sinister is clearly a heart, at least.


10: Madok ap Gruffydd -New Name & New Device

Per fess argent and azure, two towers azure and a keythong rampant Or.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for 12th-14th C. Welsh culture.
Meaning most important.

The name is Welsh. Both elements are masculine given Welsh names, but the patronymic is a modern form of the name; an accurate 13th C. form (matching the time period of Madok) is Griffid, Gryffid or Gryffyd; information is found in "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names," Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html.


11: Maeve Sinclair -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Meaning most important.

Maeve is a feminine given name dated to 1584, "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents: Women's Names," Mari ingen Briain, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Feminine.shtml.

Sinclair is a header found in Black's Surnames of Scotland, with the spelling Sinclaire in 1598 and Syndklair in 1526. Maria Sinclair has a christening date of 1673 in England, Batch K03721-2, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMNM-9WR.


12: Rhiane y' Coch -New Name & New Device

Per saltire argent and gules, two chevronels couped and a pair of shears sable.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Welsh language/culture.
Sound most important.

The name is Welsh. Rhiane is said to be found in "Concerning the Names Rhiannon, Rhian, and the Like." Josh Mittleman and Heather Rose Jones, http://medievalscotland.org/problem/names/rhiannon.shtml, which is not a good place to document a period name, as the theme of these articles is to demonstrate that these names nor largely not period. Furthermore, Rhiane is not found in the article. If anyone can help with this, it would be appreciated. Coch is a personal byname for "red," found in "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names," Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html/, although it appears that the period form is Goch/ones that appears in a medieval source. There are a number of Goch names registered, and they all seem to so without the y' particle.


13: Sa'id al-Sabbah -New Name & New Device

Sa'id al-Sabbah

Per bend argent and azure, a polypus sable and a pair of calipers sable.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.

The name is Arabic. Sa'id is a masculine 'ism/ given name.

al-Sabbah is a masculine cognomen used as an 'ism, including both laquabs and nisbas. Both elements are found in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices," Da'ud ibn Auda, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm.


14: Sarah le Frith -New Name & New Device

Azure, a crescent argent and on a chief Or, three estoiles azure.

Sarah is the client's legal given name.

I'm not certain if the byname is an acceptable abbreviation for a small town in Derbyshire, Chapel-en-le-Frith, or from another source.


15: Sophia Elisabetta Dal Ponte -New Name & New Device

Per bend Or and vert, a shoe and a sword bendwise counterchanged.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.

The name is Italian/ Venetian. Sofia and Elisabetta are feminine given names, found in "Late Period Italian Women's Names: Venice,"

Juliana de Luna, http://medievalscotland.org/jes/Nuns/Venice.shtml.

Dal Ponte (a Signa) is a family name found in "Late Period Italian Women's Names: Florence," Juliana de Luna, http://medievalscotland.org/jes/Nuns/Florence.shtml.

Italian names do show double given names (SENA: Appendix A: Patterns That Do Not Need Further Documentation by Language Group, Italian).


16: ZofiÄ… of Grodno -New Name & New Device

Per chevron gules and Or, two Ukranian trident heads and a fox's mask counterchanged.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Lithuania/Lithuanian, 14th-16th C..
Language (Lithuanian) most important.
Culture (Lithuania) most important.

The name is Lithuanian. ZofiÄ… is found among other variations of the name in "16th and early 17th C. feminine names from Lithuanian records," Rebecca Lucas, http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ffride/lithuanianwomenasmenv.html; unlike the others, it appears as being in the singular accusative case, rather than the nominative case; can something like it be attested as a nominative form, or will she need to choose one of the others?

The Grodno region lies in western Belarus and Grodno itself was one of the oldest cities in historical Lithuania: it was first mentioned in the Chronicles of 1128 (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/info_history_of_grodno.htm).


Thank you all for your time and consideration of these submissions.

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street

Tucson AZ 85716

brickbat@nexiliscom.com

atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com


OSCAR counts 11 Names, 13 Devices, 1 Device Change and 1 Badge. There are a total of 26 items submitted on this letter.

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