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Outlands LoI dated 2014-02-28

From the Office of Rampart Herald

Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a (Nicole Riviezzo)

rampart@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Sovereigns and members of the College of Arms of the Society, does Khalidah bint Yahya'a, Rampart Herald send her greetings.

What follows is the February 2014 Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of the Outlands.

I would like to thank Eastern Crown, Aspen, Goutte d'Eau, Green Anchor, Conrad von Zollern, and all of the heralds who were kind enough to contribute comments on OSCAR.

It is my intent to register this February the following items from the Outlands College of Heralds.

This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

1: Alikina filia Elpini - New Name & New Device

Per pale vert and sable, an owl and on a chief urdy argent, a rose sable, barbed and seeded proper, between two oak leaves fesswise vert

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.
Meaning (Welsh/Pictish (1000-1300AD)) most important.

Submitter's previous name, Aeđicina nic Elpin, was returned on the May 2013 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2013-04-lop/1305-lor.html) with the following:

{This name is returned for violating SENA PN2C2 : The name elements have a temporal disparity of more than the permitted number of years. http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#PN2C2}

[Alikina] - Legal Name Allowance, Scan of DL received with form

[Elpin] - 'A Consideration of Pictish Names: V. Index of Name Elements' Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict5.html#section5), II.B.4. ColMS, IrHB, historic kings, 2 examples

Based on commentary from Goutte d'Eau and Eastern Crown, the submitter has agreed to a change to <Alikina filia Elpini>.

Additional Documentation provided by Goutte d'Eau:

A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html) says the expected patronymic would be filia or verch.

This agrees with Bynames in the charters of the Abbey of Ystrad Marchell, 1176-1283 by Constanza of Thamesreach (http://s-gabriel.org/names/constanza/ystradmarchell-bynames.html) where her single feminine byname is <filia Kadwallavn>.

At the very least, I can't find any examples of female names to illustrate any such construction in Tangwystyl's Pictish names article?

She writes (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict3_4.html) The Latin feminine forms of the above would use "neptis" and "filia" -- although given the complete lack of Pictish feminine names, there hardly seems any point in mentioning it.

I suspect, then that Latin <filia> would be a more likely marker?

Eastern Crown notes: the safest formation is to go with Latin: <Alikina filia Elpini>, putting the father's name in the Latin genitive form

Submitter's previous device, Per pale vert and sable, an owl and on a chief urdy argent, a rose sable, barbed and seeded proper, between two oak leaves fesswise vert, was returned on the May 2013 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2013-04-lop/1305-lor.html) with the following:

{Returned for lack of a name to send it up with}


This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

2: Conchobhar mac Cillene - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language (Irish, not Anglicized Irish) most important.

[Conchobhar] - High King of Ireland 819-833 (No actual documentation provided to support this information)

[mac] - "son of"

[Cillene] - 'Index of Names in Irish Annals: Cilléne, Cillíne' Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Cillene.shtml); was an Abbot of Athaine Moire, died 720-725

Additional Documentation for <Conchobhar> provided by Goutte d'Eau:

Index of Names in Irish Annals: Conchobar / Conchobhar by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Conchobar.shtml) gives:

The form <Conchobar> ca. 700-900 and <Conchobhar> ca. 1200-1700.

As well as examples from the annals of:

Concobar mac Maili Duín rí Cenéoil Cairpri (died 706)

Conchobar mac Fínd, rí h-Úa Failge (died 979)

Concobhar, mac Foghartaigh h-Ui Maoile Dúin secnab Cluana Mic Nóis (died 1089)

Conchobhar mac Muirghesa Uí Edhin (died 201)

Conchobhar Ruadh mac Domhnaill Uí Bhriain (died 1202)

Concobhar mac Tighearnáin Ui Concobhair (died 1271).


This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

3: Dawn Schadue - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2013, via the Outlands

(Fieldless) A sun per fess Or and sable

This submission is to be associated with Dawn Schadue


This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

4: Garret Lightborne - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound most important.

[Garret] - Dictionary of Tudor London Names Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/tudorlondon.pdf), pg. 15, under the header <Garet>

[Lightborne] - familysearch.org - Benjamine Lightborne birth 1535 Maple Durham, Hampshire, England (No batch number provided)

Additional Documentation provided by Goutte d'Eau and Green Anchor:

<Henry Lightborne> married 1582 in Warwick, England. Batch number: M04192-2

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVF3-M2S

(Which is a happy coincidence with Ary's Dictionary having:

<Garret> from Aldersgate, 1582. So at least they're temporally consistent!)

John Lightborne Spouse's Name: Dorothy Dolloway Event Date: 23 Jul 1587 Event Place: Saint Dunstan,Stepney,London,England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05576-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 578821 -- "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJRS-X5G : accessed 18 Jan 2014), John Lightborne and Dorothy Dolloway, 23 Jul 1587.


This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

5: Isaac Atwater of Tweed - New Name & New Device

Argent on a fess sable between two boars passant to sinister gules, three towers argent

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.

Submitter's previous name, Isaac Fulk Hod, was returned on the April 2012 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2012-03-lop/1204-lor.html) because the submitter withdrew it based on internal commentary - concerns about how it sounded.

[Isaac] - 'Isaac Family Crest and History' (http://houseofnames.com/isaac-family-crest); there is a page of Isaac listings from familysearch.org, scan below

[Atwater] - 'Atwater Family Crest and History' (http://houseofnames.com/atwater-family-crest); there are two pages of Atwater listings from familysearch.org, scans below; 'The Internet Surname Database: Atwater' (http://www.surnamedb.com/surname/atwater)

[Tweed] - No Documentation, only a note stating it is a river.

Additional Documentation provided by Goutte d'Eau, Eastern Crown,Magnus von Lübeck, and Green Anchor:

<Isaac> appears in:

Late Sixteenth Century English Given Names: Alphabetical Name List by Talan Gwynek

http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/eng16/eng16alpha.html

<An Atwater> married 1587, Kent, England. Batch no. M04684-1

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKR3-VY9

<Elizabeth Atwater> married 1595, Hampshire, England. Batch no. M13935-1

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NK8C-8M3

Could <of Tweed> be the modern Lingua Anglica form of a locative byname?

Dictionary of Tudor London Names by Sara L. Uckelman

http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/tudorlondon.pdf

has <Tweddyll> 1541 "from the valley of the Tweed"

Index of Scots names found in Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue: Tweed by Sara L. Uckelman

http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/scots/dost/tweed.html

has <of Twedy> 1488.

<the watter of Tuede> is referred to in a Scots-language parliamentary record dated 16 February 1484 in the Records of the Parliaments of Scotland to 1707 database (http://www.rps.ac.uk/).

An English surname can be derived from a river name.

[July 2007 LoAR, A-West]

Quentyn Arey. Name

Reaney and Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames, s.n. Airey, derives this surname from a river name, and date the spelling Arey to 1522.

Reaney and Wilson give:

sn. Tweedale

<Robert de Twedhall'> 1279

<John de Tweddale> 1376

"Man from the valley of the Tweed"

and

sn. Tweedy

<Finlay de Twydyn> 1296

<Walter de Twydi> 1303

"From the lands of Tweedie in Stonehouse (Lanark)."

So, Tweedie is south of Glasgow, instead of relating to the river?

R&W does also have some river-based locative bynames though:

sn. Deverall:

<Robert de Deuerel> undated

<Peter de Deverell> ca. 1240

"These... are named from the River Deverill."

sn. Humber:

<John de Hwmbre> 1305

Either two places called Humber, or the River Humber.

sn. Derwent:

<John de Derwente> 1279

"From the River Derwent"

also sn. Darwen:

<Syward de Derewent> 1246

"From Darwen... on the River Derwent."

sn. Sow

<John de Sowe> 1203

"From the River Sow" or the placename Sowe.

sn. Meadway:

<Alexander at þe Medewaye> 1302

<John atte Medeweie> 1327

"Dweller by the River Medway."

sn. Atyeo:

<Roger atte Yeo> 1333

"Dweller by a river"

Isaac's use as a surname is irrelevant here. Withycombe documents this spelling from 1273. Save paper: use No Copy Required references. Reaney & Wilson's entry for "Attwater, Atwater" cites William Atewatr' from 1198 and Marye Atwaters from 1660.

Anne Tweed was married in 1577: Name: Willi Crakell Spouse's Name: Anne Tweed Event Date: 22 Sep 1577 Event Place: Pickhill With Roxby,York,England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01092-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 0496809 IT 1, 207569 -- "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVBC-B24 : accessed 18 Jan 2014), Willi Crakell and Anne Tweed, 22 Sep 1577.

The Tweed is indeed a river - Ekwall, sn. Tweed shows a number of period spellings from early period, none of which are relevant to this submission. Reaney & Wilson, sn Tweedale show John de Tweddale dated 1376 "Man from the valley of the Tweed".

Submitter's previous device, Argent on a fess sable between two boars passant to sinister gules, three towers argent, was returned on the April 2012 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2012-03-lop/1204-lor.html) because the submitter withdrew it along with his name submission.


This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

6: Isabeau de Bernac - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.

[Isabeau] - Academy of Saint Gabriel Reports 792 & 1049 (http://www.s-gabriel.org/792 ; http://www.s-gabriel.org/1049)

[Bernac] - 'The Original Record: Pipe Roll (1241-1242)' (http://www.theoriginalrecord.com/database/search?search=Bernac')

Additional Documentation/Support provided by Goutte d'Eau and Green Anchor:

Surnames from Northamptonshire, 1301 by Sara L. Uckelman has:

<de Bernack> and <de Bernak> (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/northants1301.pdf)

The 1259 pipe roll PhD thesis by Richard Cassidy, University of London, 2012 (http://cmjk.com/1259/1259_pipe_roll.html)

Is very cool, and includes transcripts at (http://cmjk.com/1259/1259_pipe_roll_files/1259_transcript.pdf)

p. 83 has <Galfridus de Bernak'>

p. 96 <Magister Willelmus de Burk persona de Bernak'>

p. 184 <Adam de Bernak'>

p. 263 <Ricardi de Bernak'>

The Great roll of the pipe for the twenty-sixth year of the reign of King Henry the Third, A. D. 1241-1242 which strikes me as what theoriginalrecord.com is referring to, is online at (https://archive.org/details/greatrollpipefo00canngoog)

p. 318 <Ricardus de Bernac' et Alicia uxor ejus>

Edmund King 1973. Peterborough Abbey, 1086-1310: A Study in the Land Market (Cambridge University Press)

p. 174 in the google books preview (https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=906/2014-01-11/05-56-06_hugo_de_burnac.png) has <Hugo de Bernac> and <Ricardus de Bernak>.

(http://books.google.com.au/books?id=Cds8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA174&lpg=PA174&dq=Ricardus+%22de+Bernac'%22&sou rce=bl&ots=ran6ajZzLs&sig=Ua-CFMq5Um-vRG4qE3eooCjks1A&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jSzRUq3rJcb1lAWz_oDYCg&ved=0CCk Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Ricardus%20%22de%20Bernac'%22&f=false)

I wonder, since it also mentions Rogerus Bacun clericus if it dates to before 1294, and the death of Roger Bacon?

Select Civil Pleas Volume 1. AD 1200-1208 seems to be a transcription where they haven't expanded all the Latin abbreviations. Page 6 at Michaelmas 1200, there is <Ri{c~} de Bernac> (https://archive.org/stream/selectcivilplea00bailgoog#page/n39/mode/2up/search/Bernac)

Map-France.com has the following information: The village of Bernac is a small village located west of France. The town of Bernac is located in the department of Charente of the french region Poitou-Charentes. The town of Bernac is located in the township of Villefagnan part of the district of Confolens. -- (http://www.map-france.com/Bernac-16700/); did not find any information in period.


This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

7: Jacobus Locard - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language most important.
Culture most important.
Spelling most important.

[Jacobus] - 'Names from 13th Century Scottish Parliamentary Records' Alys Mackyntoich (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/Namesfrom13thCenturyScottishParliamentaryRecords.html), dated 1293, 1296

[Locard] - Origines Parochiales Scotiae: The Antiquities Ecclesiastical and Territorial of the Parishes of Scotland, Volume 1, pg. 125, book scan below, dated to the late 13th Century, name of a Knight 'Sir Symon Locard'

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2014-02-28/10-59-44_jacobus1.jpg


This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

8: Matilda de Seton - Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2007, via the Outlands

(Fieldless) A dragonfly argent enfiling with its tail a coronet Or

This submission is to be associated with Matilda de Seton

Submitter's previous badge, (Fieldless) A dragonfly argent enfiled by a coronet Or, was returned on the October 2013 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/10/13-10lar.html#172) as it was withdrawn by the submitter.

Submitter has a County - May 13, 2000 via the Outlands.


This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

9: Noelle de Poys - New Name & New Device

Per chevron purpure and sable, five pomegranates in chevron and a rapier inverted argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.
Spelling most important.

[Noelle] - "Noëlle Le Moine de Chateaus" (d. 1629) & "Noelle Bourdon" (m.1604) taken from 'France, Protestant Church Records, 1612-1906' familysearch.org, scans below

[des Poys] - "Jehan des Poys" taken from 'Names Found in Commercial Documents from Bordeaux, 1470-1520' Aryanhwy merch Catmael and Talan Gwynek (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/bordeaux.html)

Additional Documentation provided by Goutte d'Eau:

<Noelle Gijsberts> married 1627, Netherlands. Batch number: M90125-4

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FNCZ-FYY

<Noelle Loridan> christened England 1592. Batch number: C04902-1

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5JX-GNJ

<Noelle> christened Belgium, 1609. Batch number: C87028-1

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FV7K-VT5

SENA Appendix C allows for the mixing of late-period French, Dutch, and English/Welsh, which would also make these acceptable sources.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2014-02-27/10-17-42_noelle1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2014-02-27/10-17-44_noelle2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2014-02-27/10-17-46_noelle3.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2014-02-27/10-17-47_noelle4.jpg


This item was on the 05-2014 LoAR

10: Willem Jacop Van Meteren - New Name & New Device

Gules, on a chevron cotised Or three fleurs-de-lys sable

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for 14th-15th Flemish.
Language most important.
Culture most important.
Spelling most important.

[Willem] - 'Dutch Names 1393-96' Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/dutch/dutch14.html); 'Dutch Names 1358-1361' Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/dutch/earlydutch14.html)

[Jacop] - 'Dutch Names 1393-96' Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/dutch/dutch14.html); 'Dutch Names 1358-1361' Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/dutch/earlydutch14.html) <unmodified patronymic>

[Van Meteren] - 'History of the Van Meteren Family' (http://www.vanmetre.com/Papers/van_meteren_family.htm), dated to 1407; 'Jacobus van Meteren' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobus_van_Meteren), dated 1519

Additional Documentation provided by Goutte d'Eau:

Names from Dutch Records Between 1584-1585 by Aryanhwy merch Catmael

(http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/dutch/vandermeulen.html) has:

<Emanual van Meteren>

<Willem Adriaanszoon>

<Willem Aelbrechtsen>

<Willem Aelbrechtsen van der Mey>

<Willem Aertsz Monincx>

and Dutch Given Names from 1573 by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/dutch/dutch1573.html) has:

35 instances of <Willem> and 9 instances of <Jacop>.


Thus ends the February 2014 Letter of Intent.

In Service,

Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a

Rampart Herald


OSCAR counts 8 New Names, 4 New Devices and 1 New Badge. These 13 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $39 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Badge. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 14 items submitted on this letter.

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