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Outlands LoI dated 2014-01-22

From the Office of Rampart Herald

Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a (Nicole Riviezzo)

rampart@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Sovereigns and members of the College of Arms of the Society, does Khalidah bint Yahya'a, Rampart Herald send her greetings.

What follows is the January 2014 Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of the Outlands.

I would like to thank Eastern Crown, Aspen, Goutte d'Eau, Green Anchor, Conrad von Zollern, Orle, and all of the heralds who were kind enough to contribute comments on OSCAR.

It is my intent to register this January the following items from the Outlands College of Heralds.

This item was on the 04-2014 LoAR

1: Albrecht von Trier - New Name & New Device

Vert, on a pile raguly throughout Or, a flame gules

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for 10th Century German.
Culture (10th Century German) most important.

[Albrecht] - [Bahlow]

[Trier] - [Bahlow]

Additional documentation has been provided by Eastern Crown:

<Albrecht> appears in "Medieval German Given Names from Silesia" by Talan Gwynek (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/bahlow_v.htm) dated to 1271 and later.

The only earlier period examples of <Trier> I'm finding are in Latin.

However, from the Family Search Historical Records, the whole name can be from 16th cen. Bayern:

Albrecht Burg; Male; Marriage; 15 May 1574; Zweibrücken, Bayern, Germany; Batch: M96767-1

Wylhelm Von Trier; Male; Marriage; 08 Jul 1577; Zweibrücken, Bayern, Germany; Batch: M96767-1

Jeronymus Von Trier; Male; Christening; 25 Jun 1569; Zweibrücken, Bayern, Germany; Batch: C96767-1


This item was on the 04-2014 LoAR

2: Aurelia Frenas - New Name & New Device

Quarterly sable and Or, a bee counterchanged

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.

[Aurelia] - [Withycombe]

[Frenas] - 'Bynames Found in the 1523 Subsidy Roll for York and Ainsty' Karen Larsdatter (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/york16/bynamesalphabetically.htm)

Additional Documentation provided by Goutte d'Eau and Green Anchor:

16th c. mention of <Aurelia>:

<Aurelia Kempe> christened 1580, England. Batch C03424-3

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7W9-CJ8

Quotation from documentation for Vivienne Aurelia le Lyon in OSCAR: "Aurelia is found s.n. Aurelia in Withycombe which states there was an 11th C French saint of that name. Aurelia is also a late-period English literary name found in Aurelia, the Paragon of Pleasure and Princely Delights: Contayning the Seven Dayes Solace (in Christmas Holy-dayes) of Madona Aurelia, Queene of the Christmas Pastimes, & Sundry Other Well-courted Gentleman and Gentlewomen, in a Noble Gentleman's Pallace, published in 1593. (http://books.google.com/books?id=yXfvtgAACAAJ&dq=aurelia&hl=en&sa=X&ei=gSbnULb-Io2z0QHZ34Ao&ved=0CEo Q6AEwAg). -- https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=27968"


This item was on the 04-2014 LoAR

3: Corbin Maculagh - New Name & New Device

Per saltire argent and sable, in pale a one horned anvil sable and a shamrock vert

[Corbán] - 'Some Masculine Ogham Names' Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/ogham/), Old Irish Variant of the Ogham Nominative Corbagnas

[Maculagh] - 'Thomas Maculagh, of Wigtownshire' (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C3684637), dated to 1296

Additional documentation was provided by Eastern Crown and the submitter opted to change <Corbán> to <Corbin> based on this documentation:

<Maculagh> appears as a byname in the Ragman Roll, dated to 1296; see p. 198 in "Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland Preserved in Her Majesty's Public Record Office, London: A. D. 1272-1307 (Google eBook)" (http://books.google.com/books?id=gJbRAAAAMAAJ). The bynames do not appear to have been modernzied.

<Maculagh> is a Scots or Anglo-Norman rendering of a Gaelic name.

Unfortunately, there are far more than 300 years between this Scots/Anglo-Norman byname and the Old Irish given name, which is dated to the 7th cen. at the latest (per Tangwystl's article).

However, <Corbin> can be dated as a 16th cen. English surname, which is registerable as a given name by precedent:

Dorethy Corbin; Female; Marriage; 09 Oct 1595; Sedgley, Stafford, England; Batch: M00998-7

John Corbin; Male; Christening; 24 Oct 1567; Horsham, Sussex, England; Batch: P01437-1

The spelling <Corben> can also be found as a late 16th cen. English surname:

Margaret Corben; Female; Christening; 29 Jul 1566; Rye, Sussex, England; Batch: C00086-2

So <Corbin Maculagh> or <Corben Maculagh> would be a registerable Anglo-Scots name.

This device was originally submitted on the December 2013 LoP (https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=2338) with a portion of the saltire being gules, the submitter agreed to changing the red to black in order for it to be blazoned properly.


This item was on the 04-2014 LoAR

4: Elizabeth Anne Grene - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2011, via the Outlands

Per pale vert and purpure within a bordure argent

This submission is to be associated with Elizabeth Anne Grene


This item was on the 04-2014 LoAR

5: Isabel O Sullivan - New Name & New Device

Per fess wavy purpure and barry wavy argent and azure, in chief an axe fesswise argent

[Isibél] - 'Index of Names in Irish Annals: Isibél' Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Isibel.shtml), dated from 1441, 1505, and 1583

[Sullivan] - 'Names found in Anglicized Irish Documents: Men's Names' Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml), dated to 1600, pg. 150-154

Based on commentary provided at Kingdom, the submitter agreed to the change from <Isibél ingen Sullivan> to <Isabel O Sullivan>

Additional Documentation has been provided by Eastern Crown:

<ingen> is used to mark partonymics only for fully Gaelic names. <Sullivan> is Anglicized Irish, not Gaelic.

Mari's cited article documents <O Sullevan> and <O Sullivan> as Anglicized Irish surnames, not the unmarked <Sullivan>. <Isabell> and <Isabell> are also found in Mari's "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents" s.n. Elizabeth (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Feminine.shtml). So, a fully 16th cen. Anglicized Irish name would be one of the following:

<Isabel O Sullevan>

<Isabell O Sullevan>

<Isabel O Sullivan>

<Isabell O Sullevan>

For a fully Gaelic form, we have <Isibél> as documented. The Annals of Ulster provide documentation for the byname:

U1498.6

Tomas Óg, mac Tomais Iarla, mic Geroid Iarla & Cormac Óg, mac Corbmaic, mic Taidhg Meg Carrthaigh, do leanmuin Eogain, mic Taidhg, mic Corbmaic Meg Carrthaigh, a tóraidhecht & Eogan fein & a dhías mac do marbadh leo ann & O Suileabhain Beirre do marbadh leo ann, .i. Pilib, mac Diarmada h-Ui Shuilleabhain & a mac-sin, .i. Tadhg in Chaennaigh O Suilleabhain, & da mac Dhuibhdhara Mic Shuibhne, .i. Emann & araile {fol. A 112d} & Brian Og, mac Briain Mic Shuibhne & daine imda aili.

(emphasis added) http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G100001C/text121.html

Putting it all into proper later period Gaelic, we get:

<Isibél inghean uí Shúileabháin> or <Isibel inghean ui Shuileabhain>

This device was originally submitted on the December 2013 LoP (https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=2338) as Per fess wavy purpure and barry wavy argent and azure, in chief an axe fesswise Or but the axe color was changed, with the submitter's permission, to argent in hopes of clearing the two cited conflicts.


This item was on the 04-2014 LoAR

6: Isouda de Rhos - New Name & New Device

Per pale azure ermined argent and argent ermined azure, two owls respectant counterchanged argent and azure

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Culture (Early 13th Century Welsh) most important.

[Isouda] - 'Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames Part Three: The Names H-Z' Talan Gwynek (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyHZ.html), a variant of Isolda dated to 1214

[de] - 'A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names' Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html), for a locative byname

[Rhos] - An early minor Kingdom of Wales that became a cantref until 1283 then became a regional name; Davies, John A History of Wales Revised Edition, pgs. 113 and 162 (page scan below)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2014-01-22/11-34-54_isouda1.jpg


This item was on the 04-2014 LoAR

7: Keina MacRath - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in December of 2012, via the Outlands

Azure, a falcon striking and in chief three mullets voided and interlaced argent

Submitter's previous device, Azure, a falcon striking and in chief three mullets of seven points voided and interlaced argent, was returned on the September 2013 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/09/13-09lar.html#250) with the following:

{This device is returned for using voided charges not as part of the primary charge group. SENA A3C states "Charges which are voided as part of their type, such as mascles or mullets voided and interlaced, are not affected by these restrictions. They may even be tertiary charges or maintained charges, and may be used in fieldless designs." However, precedent says: 'Plain mullets voided seem to be fairly rare in period armory, but a mullet of five or six points voided and interlaced was certainly not unknown. Therefore, as both a default mullet, of five points, voided and interlaced and a mullet of six points voided and interlaced are easily recognizable and simple, we are hereby declaring their voiding and interlacing a part of their definition, and partially overturning the Feb 2011 precedent. That precedent will continue to apply with mullets of more than six points voided and interlaced, as being charges that are too complex. Charges that are voided as part of their definition, including such as mascles and annulets, may be used in all types of charge groups. [Ariel Lovechild, A-Ansteorra, November 2011 LoAR]' Mullets of seven points voided and interlaced are unknown in period armory, and are too complex to be used as secondary or tertiary charges. Please advise the submitter, upon resubmission, to draw the falcon in a more recognizable manner. A more distinctly raptor-like beak would be helpful.}


Thus ends the January 2014 Letter of Intent.

In Service,

Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a

Rampart Herald


OSCAR counts 5 New Names, 5 New Devices and 1 New Badge. These 11 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $33 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Device. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 12 items submitted on this letter.

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