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Outlands LoI dated 2013-05-28

From the Office of Rampart Herald

Lord Andrew von Otelingen (Andrew Grosser)

rampart@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Sovereigns and members of the College of Arms of the Society, does Andrew von Otelingen, Rampart Herald send his greetings.

What follows is the May 2013 Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of the Outlands.

I would like to thank all of the heralds who were kind enough to contribute comments on OSCAR with special thanks to the following Commentary Groups: GMCGIHCNBDS, Dragonsspine Commenting Group.

It is my intent to register this May the following items from the Outlands College of Heralds:

This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

1: Argyle McGrigour - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound most important.

[Argyle] - 'ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 2051' (http://www.s-gabriel.org/2051); use of surnames as given names - precedence via September 2012 LoAR's Cover Letter (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/09/12-09cl.html)

[McGrigour] - 'ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 1145' (http://www.s-gabriel.org/1145); 'ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 1397' (http://www.s-gabriel.org/1397); 'ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 3188' (http://www.s-gabriel.org/3188)

Consulting Herald: Angus Reid MacFarlane


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

2: Atia Quirina - New Name & New Device

Or, a dragon couchant to sinister purpure and on a chief vert, three eggs argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language (Roman) most important.
Culture (Roman) most important.

[Atia] - 'Roman Names: Sample Female Names' (http://www.legionxxiv.org/nomens/)

[Quirina] - 'Roman Naming Conventions in the Late Roman Republic' (http://www.therthdimension.org/AncientRome/RomanNaming/romannaming.htm)

Consulting Herald: Heralds' Point at Estrella

Device:

Some commentators had an issue with the tail obscuring the legs - questioning whether it hinders the ability to identify the couchant posture. It is the Outlands' College's opinion that this is not adequate cause for return - especially as many precedents state that the position of a tail is not a blazon-able detail.


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

3: Belinda Froste - New Name & New Device

Vert, a fleur-de-lys argent within five bees in anulo heads to center proper.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Spelling (Froste) most important.

[Belinda] - Submitter's legal name, copy of Driver's License provided

[Froste] - 'Brass Enscription Index' (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/brasses/lastnameAH.html#F)

Consulting Herald: Andrew von Otelingen

Device: The use of charges in anulo which are not all palewise is a SFPP.


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

4: Faolan Ó Lacháin of Galway - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2012, via the Outlands

(Fieldless) A feather argent between and conjoined to an increscent and a decrescent gules

Badge: Submitter's previous badge, (Fieldless) a crescent gules sustaining a wolf's paw print sable, was submitted on the October 2012 LoP (https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=1631) but was withdrawn by the submitter.

There was discussion of whether this badge uses the restricted charge of a Red Crescent on a White Field. As the Crescent is conjoined to the feather and it is Fieldess, not on an Argent field - the College supports the registration of this badge.

The Submitter is aware of the possible issue and wishes the item to be sent for a ruling form Laurel.

Consulting Herald: Faolan Ó Lacháin of Galway


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

5: Gaston de Sepulveda - New Name

Sound most important.

[Gaston] - 'ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 1462' (http://www.s-gabriel.org/1462); 'ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 3158' (http://www.s-gabriel.org/3158)

[de Sepulveda] - 'Bulletin for Spanish and Portuguese Historical Studies' (http://digitalcommons.asphs.net/bsphs/vol35/iss1/4/); 'Digital History: Juan Ginés de Sepúlveda (1547)' (http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/learning_history/spain/spain_sepulveda.cfm)

[French + Spanish/Iberian] - Allowable per SENA Appendix C (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#AppendixC)

Consulting Herald: Angus Reid MacFarlane


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

6: Gnaeus Modius Varro Minisculus - New Name & New Device

Per chevron purpure and argent, a fox rampant and in chief two mullets of eight points within a bordure all counterchanged

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Language (Roman) most important.
Culture (Roman) most important.

[Gnaeus] - 'Roman Names: Praenomen' (http://www.legionxxiv.org/nomens/); (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnaeus_(praenomen)); (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/137639/Gnaeus-Marcius-Coriolanus)

[Modius] - Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology v. 2, pg. 1109 (http://ancientlibrary.com/smith-bio/2217.html); 'Roman Names: Nomens' (http://www.legionxxiv.org/nomens/)

[Varro] - 'Roman Names: Cognomens' (http://www.legionxxiv.org/nomens/); De Re Rustica, Marcus Terentius Varro (http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Varro/de_Re_Rustica/1*.html)

[Minisculus] - (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/minuscule)

...derived from the Latin minisculus, meaning "rather small."

Consulting Herald: Mathom the Malcontent

Device Notes: The bordure is too thin. We believe an artistic note should suffice.


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

7: Isabetta Locke - New Name & New Device

Argent, a raven sable maintaining in its beak a sprig vert, on a chief embattled azure an arrow reversed argent.

[Isabetta] - 'Italian Renaissance Women's Names' Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/italian.html)

[Locke] - From the IGI Parish Records Extracts:

Alicke Locke; Female; Marriage; 15 Sep 1613; Katholisch, Rheine, Westfalen, Prussia; Batch: M94344-1

German & Italian are compatible per SENA.

Consulting Herald: Heralds' Point at Estrella


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

8: Kenton Drake - New Name & New Device

Gules, an octopus displayed within an annulet of rope tied in base with a square knot Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound (Like Drake, the mystical creature) most important.

[Kenton] - Submitter's legal name, copy of Driver's License provided

[Drake] - 'ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 1316' (http://www.s-gabriel.org/1316)

Consulting Herald: Andrew von Otelingen

Device Comments:

According to the Cover Letter of March 2012:

As regards octopuses, it seems that in English at least there was no distinction drawn in period between octopuses, with eight tentacles, and squid and cuttlefish, with ten tentacles. The word <polypus>, meaning a cephalopod having either eight or ten tentacles, is dated in that spelling to 1578, and in other forms to at least 1527.

As we desire to use period terms whenever possible, based on this research we will no longer use the blazon term kraken, but will instead use calamarie or cuttle-fish to describe squid. Due to the similarity with the modern word, we will use the blazon term polypus to describe the octopus. The SCA default orientations remain the same, with polypus defaulting to tentacles to base, and calamarie defaulting to tentacles to chief. There is no difference granted for type, only for orientation.

My understanding of the above precedent: the direction of the tenticles create the difference in orientation between a polypus and a cuttlefish and is the default posture one for each.

Though an SFPP may be present, this item has no issue with conflict with either and charges are not required to be in their default posture. We debate, however, what word would be appropriate for the depiction of the tentacles extended in all directions: displayed, tergiant, spread? Displayed is my preference.

Further Note: the submitter is willing to re-render this with the tentacles pointed downward - however he prefers this rendition if acceptable. We therefore ask for feedback from the College and a decision from Laurel.

Correction (2013-Jun-10 02:06:48): Please Note: The submitter has followed up with the following comment having done further research. Due to this - any assistance in documenting & registering the submitted device as, perhaps, "a natural octopus displayed" would be appreciated. (Please also note that NO-ONE has ANY difficulty with identification of this charge)

Andrew,

I have been considering appealing the precedent to require octopus tentacles only to go down and calamari only to go up based on some findings. Do you have any advice as to how to proceed with this?

There are literally hundreds of examples of urns, mosaics, and coins showing stylized octopus with tentacles both up and down on the same creature, dating from over a thousand years BC well into AD. These were especially common among the Mediterranean cultures.

Also, not of least significance, is Conrad Gesner's famous "Historiae Animalium", 1551-1587, which depicts an octopus splayed sideways with tentacles positioned both up and down:

http://archive.nlm.nih.gov/proj/ttp/flash/gesner/gesner.html

Is there anything that can be done now in these regards to help prevent the item from being returned? Or is it better to wait and appeal if it is returned?

I appreciate all of your advice and help very much.

[submitters name redacted]


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

9: Kolgrim Olafsson - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.
Culture (12th-13th Icelandic) most important.

[Kolgrim] - The Old Norse Name, Geirr Bassi Haraldsson, pg. 12; 'Viking Names found in Landnámabók' Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html)

[Olafsson] - patronymic formed from the name, Olaf; no documentation provided, submitter only mentions the numerous listings for Olaf & Olafsson in the O & A

Consulting Herald: Gwilim de Glamorgan


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

10: Lucia Maria da Torino - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for 13th-16th Century Italian.
Culture (13th-15th Century Italian) most important.

[Lucia] - 'Names from Sixteenth Century Venice' Juliana de Luna (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html); 'Italian Renaissance Women's Names' Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/italian.html)

[Maria] - 'Names from Sixteenth Century Venice' Juliana de Luna (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html); 'Italian Renaissance Women's Names' Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/italian.html)

[da] - Name Structure, 'Names from Sixteenth Century Venice' Juliana de Luna (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html)

[Torino] - Region of Italy, 1300-1500 (http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/apenninica/apenninica_1300.html) and (http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/apenninica/apenninica_1500.html)

Consulting Herald: Andrew von Otelingen


This item was on the 08-2013 LoAR

11: Trevor MacRae - New Name & New Device

Vert, a chevron between two shamrocks and a wolf's head erased sinister, two and one, argent

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Culture most important.

[Trevor] - Submitter's legal name, a copy of Driver's License provided

[MacRae] - A Dicitionary of English Surnames, Reaney and Wilson

Consulting Herald: Kiara Loftus

Device Comments: There were questions about whether the wolf could be identified. Showing this form to a new SCAdian at the commentary meeting across the room who had not read the blazon or any commentary and asking her what it was identified it as a wolf - therefore - we have no problem sending it up.


Thus ends the May 2013 Letter of Intent.

In Service,

Andrew von Otelingen

Rampart Herald


OSCAR counts 10 New Names, 6 New Devices and 1 New Badge. These 17 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $51 for them. There are a total of 17 items submitted on this letter.

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