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Outlands LoP dated 2012-10-08

Outlands College of Heralds

October 8, 2012 From the Office of the Castle Herald

Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a

castle@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 8th day of October, A.S. XLVII (2012 CE), does Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a send greetings on behalf of Mistress Fiachra ni Ciardhubhain, White Stag Principal Herald. It would assist Castle Herald greatly in the future if you would e-mail a copy of the documentation summary for name submissions along with the paper copies. It saves having to re-type everything again. Also, please be sure that you include dates of registration and return for armory for previously registered names and resubmissions of any kind. If Castle can't find where an item was returned, it may be pended until the information is provided or payment is made for a new submission.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands' Letter of Presentation for October 2012. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Errors found herein are my sole responsibility. Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by November 15, 2012, for the decision meeting tentatively scheduled for November 21, 2012. As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.

1: Bree Norwood -New Name & New Device

Sable, two serpents erect argent on a chief engrailed argent a flower vert between two flowers sable

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.

[Bree] - Submitter's legal name, no documentation provided

[Norwood] - 'Faire Names for English Folk: Late Sixteenth Century English Names' Chris Laning

(http://s-gabriel.org/names/christian/fairnames/surnames.html#list)

Consulting Herald: Madeline


2: Dairenn of Galway -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2012, via the Outlands

Azure, a fox's mask argent in chief enarched argent two trefoil knots vert in base a ford proper

Submitter's name was registered on the May 2012 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/05/12-05lar.html) via the Outlands.

Submitter's previous device, Azure chapé ployé plumetty argent and vert, a fox's mask argent , was returned on the May 2012 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/05/12-05lar.html) with the following:

{This device is returned for conflict with the device of Fandral Silverfox, Sable, a fox's mask argent, and with the badge of Stefan von Bernhardt, Per bend sinister azure and vert, a wolf's head caboshed argent. Under both the Rules for Submission and the Standards for Evaluation, there is a CD/DC for the change to the field, but no difference for the forced arrangement upon the field of the primary charge.}

Consulting Herald: Faolan Ó Lacháin of Galway


3: Elspeth Wynterbourne -New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: filing name should not be registered for a primary name change. It was, in in February of 2013, via the Outlands.

Old Item: Elspeth the Semstress of Dunkeld, to be retained as an alternate name.
Submitter desires a feminine name.

[Elspeth] - Withycombe, 3rd Ed, pg 100, s.n. Elizabeth. <Elspeth> is shown as a Scottish variant of the name <Elizabeth>.

'15th-Century Scots Names from Dunfermline' Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/scots/dunfermline/) Dates Elspeth of Ochterlowny to 1447

[Wynterbourne] - Reaney & Wilson, revised 3rd Ed, pg. 496, lists William Wynterbourne, 1372.

Thomas Wynterbourne was the Dean of St. Paul's from 1471-1478. Horn, J.M. (1963). Fasti Ecclesiae Anglicanae 1300-1541. Volume 5: St. Paul's, London. British History Online, pp. 4-7 (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=32379)


4: Faolan Ó Lacháin of Galway -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2012, via the Outlands

(Fieldless) a crescent gules sustaining a wolf's paw print sable

Submitter's name was registered on the May 2012 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/05/12-05lar.html) via the Outlands.

Consulting Herald: Faolan Ó Lacháin of Galway


5: Farin le Breton -New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: filing name should not be registered for a primary name change. It was, in in February of 2013, via the Outlands.

Old Item: Ian the Fariner of Dunkeld, to be retained as an alternate name.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
No changes.

[Farin] - 'An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris' Colm Dubh (heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/paris.html), Farine

Biographie Universelle Ancienne et Moderne, M. Guilbert, pg. 199 (http://books.google.com/books/about/Biographie_universelle_ancienne_et_moder.html?id=6ko_AAAAcAAJ)

Tournal et le Tournaisis, Hennebert, pgs 312, 313, 314, 316 (Scans Attached)

[le Breton] - 'An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris' Colm Dubh (heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/paris.html)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2012-10-08/23-39-02_farin1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2012-10-08/23-39-03_farin2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2012-10-08/23-39-04_farin3.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2012-10-08/23-39-05_farin4.jpg
#5 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=753/2012-10-08/23-39-05_farin5.jpg


6: Gilliana Leigh Gallwey -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2011, via the Outlands

Sable, between three bulls' heads erased argent, armed and engorged of a strand of pearls Or, three roses proper on a chevron argent

Submitter's previous device, Sable, a chevron between three bull's heads couped argent armed and gorged of a strand of pearls Or , was returned on the March 2012 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/03/12-03lar.html) with the following:

{This device is returned for conflict with the badge of Zenobia Blake, Sable, a chevron between three broadarrows inverted argent. There is one CD for the change in type of secondary charges, but nothing else, as the pearls are not considered significant enough for difference. There is also no CD for the change in orientation, as bull's heads cannot be registered when inverted.

Please advise the submitter that we would expect to see a bit of the neck below the gorging.}

Consulting Herald: Mathom the Malcontent


7: Hawkril de Honeybun -New Name & New Device

Sable, a dragon's skill pierced with swords and a chief embattled argent

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.

[Hawkril] - No documentation provided.

[Honeybun] - No documentation provided beyond a link for an Ancestry.com search for 'Honeybun' in the United Kingdom

Consulting Herald: Madeline


8: Juan Osorio de Segovia -New Name & New Device

Argent, a bear rampant sable and in sinister chief, an estoile gules and a gore sinister vert

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for 15/16c Castillian.
Culture (15/16c Castillian) most important.

[Juan] - '16th Century Spanish Names' Elsbeth Anne Roth (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/spanish/male-given-freq.html)

[Osorio] - 'Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century' Juliana de Luna (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/isabella/surnames-other.html)

[de Segovia] -'16th Century Spanish Names' Elsbeth Anne Roth

(http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/spanish/bynames-alpha.html)

[Name Pattern] - '16th Century Spanish Names' Elsbeth Anne Roth (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/spanish/index.html)

Consulting Herald: Ildaria de Zaragozza


9: Sander von Zeitz -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in December of 2012, via the Outlands

Vert, a pall azure a sun and two pair of arrows in saltire Or


10: Sophie von Schönburg -New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of October 31, 2012 as submitted.

Argent, a bend sinister between an oak leaf and a bee volant azure

Submitter's name was submitted on the September 2012 LoP (https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=1586)


Thus ends the October 2012 Letter of Presentation.

In Service,

Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a

Castle Herald


OSCAR counts 3 Names, 2 Name Changes, 7 Devices and 1 Badge. There are a total of 13 items submitted on this letter.

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