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Outlands LoI dated 2012-06-30

From the Office of Rampart Herald



Baron Randal Carrick (Randall Jackson)



rampart@outlandsheralds.org



Unto the Sovereigns and members of the College of Arms of the Society, does Randal Carrick, Rampart Herald send his greetings. What follows is the June 2012 Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of the Outlands. I would like to thank the following heralds for providing commentary for this letter: Mistress Francesca de Pavia, Ray-de-Soleil Pursuivant, Master Louis-Philippe Mitouard, Catspaw Herald Extraordinary; THL Eric Morrison, Hawk's Hollow Pursuivant; Lady Leonor Ruiz de Lison; Lord Andrew von Otelingen; Lady Katelin de Irlande; Lady Khalidah bint Yayah, Castle Herald; Faelan O' Laghlan, Readstan Pursuivant; Ines Alfon, Blanch Tiger Herald; Lady Shoshanah Simkhah bas Ruven; Aryanhwy merch Catmael; Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada, Aldyrne Herald; Tostig Logiosophia, Eclipse Herald; Gunnvor silfraharr; Andreas von Meißen, Nautilus Herald; Alys Mackyntoich, Eastern Crown Herald; Modar Neznanich, (Interim) Gold Falcon Herald; Lady Pipa Sparkes; Lady Rohese de Dinan, Shadowdale Pursuivant; Lord Einarr Grimsson, Gold Falcon Herald emeritus; Ursula Georges, Green Staff Herald; and Gawain of Miskbridge, Green Anchor Herald.



It is my intent to register this June the following items from the Outlands College of Heralds:

This item was on the 09-2012 LoAR

1: Anzelm Kowalski - New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in December of 2010, via the Outlands

Argent, three pink flamingos proper, on a chief azure a greyhound courant contourny argent

Old Item: Gules, a key palewise, wards to sinister base Or, on a chief argent a greyhound courant contourny sable, to be released.


This item was on the 09-2012 LoAR

2: Ceara MacElea - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2010, via the Outlands

Vert, an estoile within an orle of ivy argent

The submitter's original submission, Vert an estoile within an orle of ivy argent, was returned on the July 2010 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2010-06-lop/1007-lor.html) stating the following:

{RETURNED for identifiability. Commenters noted that the lobes of the estoile were not clearly wavy, and appeared more like a sexfoil than an estoil. Further, the orle is clearly not ivy (Ivy has conventionally been drawn with leaves of three or five lobes, rather like the picture of English ivy at http://outandin.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/climbing-up/) and in fact appears to be Laurel leaves. Given the conflict between the submitted blazon and the emblazon, we return the device for a re-draw to clarify submitter's intent.}

The submitter desires an estoile and ivy, and has redrawn the device to be more identifiable.


This item was on the 09-2012 LoAR

3: Conall Vyse of York - New Name & New Device

Ermine, a hound's head couped within an bordure embattled gules

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Culture (14th Century English) most important.

[Connal] - Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 1536 (http://www.s-gabriel.org/1536)

[Vyse] - 'Surname Database: Vyse' (http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Vyse) English Surname of Old French Orgin, variant of Vise. Vise is dated to 1327.

[of York] - Locative surname. City in England. 'History of medieval York - Origins and early growth' (http://users.trytel.com/tristan/towns/york1.html)

'The City of York - Origin of York' (http://www.yorkshire-england.co.uk/YorkCity.html)

Submitter's previous name, John Vyse of York, was presented on the March 2012 KLoI (https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=1272) but was withdrawn by the submitter for changes.

Originally submitted as "Connal Vyse of York", the spelling of the given name was changed at Kingdom to match the documentation and the following commentary:

Alys Mackyntoich (Eastern Crown) at 2012-05-18 13:31:09

<Conall> and <Connell> are both found as given names in "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents" by Mari ingen Brian (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml) s.n. Connell. <Conall> is dated to 1570 and <Connell> is dated to 1599.

The IGI Parish Records (extracts) support the surname:

AN VYSE Female Marriage 02 OCT 1614 East Malling, Kent, England Batch: M131581

BRIDGET VYSE Female Christening 10 NOV 1639 Adbaston, Stafford, England Batch: C041712

JOHN VYSE Male Marriage 19 OCT 1567 Exning, Suffolk, England Batch: M062212

Magnus von Lübeck at 2012-06-02 04:08:30

No conflict found.

Names from 15th Century York by Karen Larsdatter

Surnames in 15th Century York

http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/york15/surnames-alphabetical.htm

de York

Submitter's previous device, Ermine, a hound's head erased gules, was withdrawn for lack of name to send up with it, and for a redraw to clear suggested conflicts on the March 2012 KLoI (https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=1272)

The device was redrawn and reblazoned.


This item was on the 09-2012 LoAR

4: Diarmuid Ua Ciarain - New Name & New Device

Per chevron sable and gules, a chevron argent between two suns Or and a wolf rampant to sinister argent

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for Ireland 13th-15th Century.

Naming convention: <given name in nominative case> O' <clan affiliation name>; Ireland post-1200

http://heralds.westkingdom.org/ClassHandouts/CommonNamingPatterns.htm (title page, pages 3-4 attached)

Diarmuid: Male Given Name; Gaelic pre-14th Century

http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/irish100.html

Academy of Saint Gabriel: http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?3277+0

Ciarain: Clan affiliation name/Clan's ancestor's name; Ireland post-13th Century

Academy of Saint Gabriel: http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2288+0

Academy of Saint Gabriel: http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?1665+0

Originally submitted as "Diarmuid O' Ciarain", this name was changed at Kingdom based on the following commentary and submitter's preference for the Early Modern Irish form:

Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (Aldyrne) at 2012-05-16 15:52:37

As submitted, the byname is a lingual mix that is not allowed. It combines <O'> which is Anglicized Irish with <Ciarain> which is Gaelic.

I suspect what the submitter was aiming for was the fully Gaelic form <Ó Ciarain>. However, since we require accents to be used or omitted consistently within a name in Gaelic, this byname would be registerable as fully Gaelic forms <Ó Ciaráin> or <O Ciarain>.

My article "16th & 17th Century Anglicized Irish Surnames from Woulfe" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/Woulfe/SortedByGaelicRoot_C1.shtml) cites Woulfe as dating the Anglicized Irish forms <O Kearan> and <O Kirrane> to temp. Elizabeth I - James I on p. 462 under the header Ó Ciaráin. These forms show that some form of this name was used in that time period in Gaelic. As <Ó Ciaráin> is the expected grammatical form for Early Modern Irish, it would be reasonable for the latter portion of the submitter's desired time period. The other expected form for Early Modern Irish would be <Ua Ciaráin>. (The Ua forms tend to be more popular earlier in EMIr with the Ó forms becoming the dominant forms towards the end of EMIr.)

The expected Middle Irish (c900-c1200) form of the byname would be <hua Ciaráin> or <hUa Ciaráin>.

Since the submitter is interested in authenticity (he specified 13th - 15th C), it's worth noting that the -d forms of the given name are Early Modern Irish forms. For Middle Irish, you would expect -t forms.

Putting this all together, expected typical forms of this name would be:

Middle Irish (c900-c1200):

Diarmait hua Ciaráin

Diarmait hUa Ciaráin

Early Modern Irish (c1200-c1700):

Diarmaid Ua Ciaráin (more typical earlier in c1200-c1700)

Diarmaid Ó Ciaráin (more typical later in c1200-c1700

The -uid form, <Diarmuid>, is an Early Modern Irish variant and you would expect it in place of <Diarmaid> in either of the Early Modern Irish forms listed above.

For more info on forms of <Diarmuid>, you can see my article "Index of Names in Irish Annals", specifically the page at: http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Diarmait.shtml

Some submitters (especially fighters whose names would be called in lists), are interested in knowing an Anglicized Irish form of their name so that they can write that down and be more likely to have someone not familiar with Gaelic pronounce their name correctly. In case this submitter happens to be interested in knowing this piece of trivia, it's worth noting that his name is one of the easier ones to figure out. A number of Anglicized Irish spellings of <Diarmuid> can be found under the header <Dermot> at http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml and we have Woulfe's documented forms <O Kearan> and <O Kirrane>. So, something like <Dermod O Kearan> is what we would expect as a 16th C Anglicized Irish form of this name. Yeah, it's not info the submitter specifically asked for, but it's cool and it's been a long day at work for me. :)


This item was on the 09-2012 LoAR

5: Eithne ingen Fhaelain Duib - New Name & New Device

Per chevron sable and vert, a chevron between an increscent and a decrescent and a wolf rampant argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Ireland 10th -12th Century.

Naming convention: <given name in nominative case> inghen <father's given name in genitive case & lenited>;

Gaelic pre-17th Century

http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/simplescotgaelicnames12.htm

Eithne: Female Given Name; Gaelic pre-11th Century

Academy of Saint Gabriel: http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/2623.txt

Faelan: Male Given Name; Gaelic pre-14th Century - Lenited form: Fhaolain

http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/irish100.html

Academy of Saint Gabriel: http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2156+0

Originally submitted as "Eithne inghen Fhaolain", the name was changed at Kingdom to correct the spelling of the byname and to clear conflict with a submitter on the 4/25/2012 LoI for the East (http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=21818), based on the following commentary, and submitter's approval:

Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (Aldyrne) at 2012-05-16 16:02:29

<inghen Fhaolain> is incorrect for the submitter's requested authenticity. She requests authenticity for 10th - 12th C Ireland. The language used in Ireland at that time was Middle Irish (c900-c1200).

<inghen> is a transitional form that is seen only occasionally. The Middle Irish form is <ingen> and the Early Modern Irish form is <inghean>.

<Fhaolain> is Early Modern Irish (c1200-c1700). It is derived from the masculine given name <Faolán>. The corresponding Middle Irish form is <Fáelán>. Put into the genitive case and lenited, it would be <Fháeláin>.

So, the fully Middle Irish form of this byname would be <ingen Fháeláin>. Since we register Gaelic names with the accents used or omitted consistently, this name is also registerable as <Eithne ingen Fhaelain>.

For more information on the name elements, see my article "Index of Names in Irish Annals", specifically the pages at:

http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Eithne.shtml

http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Faelan.shtml

The <Eithne> page dates forms of that name used in: 763, 768, 773, 778, 790, 792, 795, 916, 917, 918, 948, 951, 953, 1009, 1015, 1016

The <Fáelán> page dates forms of that name used in: 628, 633, 658, 660, 665, 666, 676, 678, 711, 733, 735, 738, 781, 785, 786, 799, 804, 891, 923, 940, 942, 951, 958, 964, 979, 980, 1010, 1033, 1041, 1042, 1051, 1063, 1069, 1128, 1161, 1203, 1423

Given these dates, <Eithne ingen Fháeláin> meaning "Eithne daughter of Fáelán" is a fantastic name for the first half of the submitter's desired time period.

Alys Mackyntoich (Eastern Crown) at 2012-05-21 09:52:15

The extra documentation you need for <Eithne ingen Fhaelain Duib> is as follows:

<Duib> is the Middle Irish Gaelic genitive form of a descriptive byname meaning "black" found in Mari ingen Brian's "Index of Names in Irish Annals" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/DescriptiveBynames/Dub.shtml)


This item was on the 09-2012 LoAR

6: Emmelina vom Westenberg - New Name & New Device

Per bend sinister angled azure and vert, a sun and a sewing needle per bend sinister Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for German for 'Emmelina of the West Mountain'.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

Emmelina - "Names in the Low Lands 1250-1300: High-medieval given names and bynames in The Netherlands and Flanders: Given names - women" by Kees Nieuwenhuijsen (http://www.keesn.nl/name13/en4_list_f.htm) cites Emmelina as found once in the survey in Oudenaarde, a town in Flanders.


This item was on the 09-2012 LoAR

7: Lura Annette Copley - New Name & New Device

Per saltire Or and gules, in pale a rose barbed and seeded proper and a cross moline purpure

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound most important.

[Lura] - Submitter's legal name, scan of driver's license provided

[Annette] - French form of Ann, Withycombe 3rd edition pp 25-26 s.n. Ann

[Copley] - dated to 1449 as William Copley, Reaney & Wilson 3rd Edition p 109 s.n. Copley

Additional documentation for this name was provided:

Alys Mackyntoich (Eastern Crown) at 2012-05-18 13:57:41

In fact, <Lura> is documentable to the gray period. From the IGI Parish Records (extracts):

LURA MALLORY Female Christening 12 MAR 1636 Mobberley, Cheshire, England Batch: C036691

Annette is also found in England:

ANNETTE HARBETT Female Marriage: 1581 Upmarden, Sussex, England Batch: M070821

ANNETTE HARBEY Female Christening 26 MAR 1625 East Newlyn, Cornwall, England Batch: C022523

ANNETTE SMITH Female Christening 09 MAY 1644 Saint Andrews, Penrith, Cumberland, England Batch: P003021

And rounding out the documentation for Copley:

ABERAN COPLEY Male Marriage 19 JAN 1556 Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England Batch: M009051

(and many more)


This item was on the 09-2012 LoAR

8: Nikolaos Demetriou ho Toxotes - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 1991, via the Middle

Per bend sinister azure and argent, a cross bottony Or and annulet azure


This item was on the 09-2012 LoAR

9: Safiyya bint Faris al-Dani - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2010, via the Outlands

Vert, a sea-lion Or, in chief three seeblatts agent and a ford proper

Submitter's previous device, Sable, an estoc and paintbrush crossed in saltire Or, a compass rose Or above a ford proper., was returned on the June 2010 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2010-05-lop/1006-lor.html) stating the following:

{This device is RETURNED for complexity issues. As drawn, the topmost charge is not a compass rose (lacking the fleur-de-lis indicating north). Also, given the relative sizes of the charges, we must find that the primary charge group consists of the compass star within and conjoined to an annulet, an estoc, and a paintbrush. this violates the rule that three or more charges should not be used in the same charge group (RFS VIII.1.a). Finally, the design borders on the overall complexity limit of 8 tinctures/charges, currently having 4 of each. Submitter is encouraged to simplify the design for resubmission.}

Commenters seem to be split on the identifiability of the seeblatts. Other than the lack of a distinct heart shape to the outer line, we are hard pressed to identify them as anything else. Not being art critics, we will leave this to Wreath's judgement to decide.


Thus ends the June 2012 Letter of Intent.



In Service,

Baron Randal Carrick

Rampart Herald


OSCAR counts 5 New Names, 6 New Devices, 1 New Device Change and 1 New Badge. These 13 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $39 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Device. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 14 items submitted on this letter.

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