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An Tir KLOI from An Tir dated 2022-10-10 Greetings unto Black Lion, Demi-Lion and the College of Heralds. Please find herein this month's submissions for An Tir. I am forever grateful for the advice of my deputies, Master Iago and Countess Elisabeth and the College at large. Special thanks to Malyss, Blue Inkhorn, for their help with entry for this letter. This letter will open for commentary by heralds from outside of An Tir on the 17th of October. Commentary on this letter closes on November 7th, 2022. Commentators, please cite references to SENA when noting problems. Please provide executive summaries for any extended commentary. Thank you
 1: Aelwynn of Bamburgh -New Name (NP) & New Device
Per bend sinister argent and Or, in bend a domestic cat sejant regardant sable and a tree proper fructed gules
Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Early 6th C, late 5th C Saxon Northumbria, language and culture. Sound (I like how it sound like my mundane name) most important.
Submitter is from Coeur du Val
Aelwynn PASE, Prosopography of Anglo-Saxon England https://pase.ac.uk/jsp/Domesday?op=5&nameinfo_id=2675
Bamburgh is a castle name seemingly dated to late 6th century according to a historic destination website at https://www.historic-uk.com/DestinationsUK/Bamburgh-Castle/
Further, Watts, Victor, ed. Cambridge Dictionary of English Place-Names, Based on the Collections of the English Place-Name Society seems to date it to 12th C (see image)
Noting that the documentation provided by the submitter does not appear to document the name to the authenticity request. Request is for late 5th C to early 6th C. Documented dates are more in the 12th century. Help is requested.
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 2: Angharat verch Reynulf -New Alternate Name (NP) & New Badge
OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2002, via An Tir.
Olivia di Carduci
Per pale purpure and argent, two chevronels inverted counterchanged
Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes. Language/Culture (16th C Venetian) most important. Culture (16th C Venetian) most important.
Olivia is a feminine given name found in Names from Sixteenth Century Venice by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith), https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html
di Carduci is a family name found in Surnames from a 16th-Century Italian Armorial by Coblaith Muimnech, http://www.coblaith.net/Names/ItSur/CAR.html (spelled DI CARDVCI)
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 3: Ásný Brúnsdóttir -New Name (NP) & New Device
Per bend sinister azure and vert, on a bend sinister between an arrow and an acorn slipped and leaved Or three triquetras and annulets interlaced vert
Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for 11th century, Landna'mabo'k. Language/Culture (Norse) most important. Culture (Norse) most important.
Submitter is from Mountain Edge
Ásný: Old norse feminine given name, "The old Norse Name", Geirr Bassi Haraldsson (Landnámabók)
Brúnsdóttir: Old Norse feminite patronymic, "Brúnn" " + "-dóttir"
Brúnn: Old Norse masculine given name, "The Old Norse Name" Geirr Bassi Haraldsson (Landnámabók)
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 4: Ásný Brúnsdóttir -New Badge
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
Vert, an acorn slipped and leaved Or
Submitter is from Mountain Edge
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 6: Hobbit John Gaskyn -New Name (NP) & New Device
Azure semy of bees proper, on a saltire argent an axe and a knife in saltire sable
Submitter is from Adiantum
Hobbit is a surname found in Family Search records: Gulielinus Hobbit - Marriage 22 Jul 1607 Swindon, Gloucestershire, England M01201-1 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVKL-16X
John Gaskyn is a name found in Family Search records: John Gaskyn - marriage 28 April 1577 St. Michael Bassishaw, London, England M00147-1 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5K9-T2H
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 7: Ikenaga Asahi -New Name (NP) & New Device
Argent, three gingko leaves in pall inverted conjoined at the stem vert
Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes. Language/Culture (Japanese) most important. Culture (Japanese) most important.
Submitter is from Dragon's Mist
Ikenaga: Late 1th century Japanese surname. Morris, V. Dixon. "The City of Sakai and Urban Autonomy". Warlords, Artists and Commoners: Japan in the Sixteenth Century, edited by George Elison and Bardwll L. Smith, Honolulu: University of Hawaii Press, 2021, pp 23-54. Name found in the Notes sectionp289. Originally from the Shoken Nicharoku.
Further support from [NCMJ] Thematic Dictionary section for name construction, Ike p. 149 and Naga p. 118, both listed as surname parts, combined to form Ikenaga.
Asahi: 16th century Japanese feminine personal name foun din [NCMJ] Solveig Throndardottir. Name Construction in Mediaeval Japan p. 374
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 8: Ikenaga Asahi -New Badge
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
(Fieldless) Three gingko leaves in pall inverted argent
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 9: Ikenaga Asahi -New Badge
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
(Fieldless) Three gingko leaves in pall inverted sable
Submitter is from Dragon's Mist
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 10: Ikenaga Asahi -New Badge
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
(Fieldless) Three gingko leaves in pall inverted vert
Submitter is from Dragon's Mist
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11: Jaida al-SaHraa' -New Name (NP)
Jaida al-SaHraa'
Submitter desires a feminine name.
Meaning (a locative byname meaning \'of the desert\' or \'of the sands\') most important.
Jaida is a feminine ism dated to the 10th c., found in Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices by Da'ud ibn Auda (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm)
Submitter provided al-SaHraa' using the naming conventions on the same page, as an attempt to create a byname meaning 'of the desert'. We and the submitter request the assistance of the College in forming a byname with this meaning.
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12: Jasmine Trewpeny -New Name (NP)
Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.
Jasmine is the submitter's modern name verified on state-issued ID by Galefridus Peregrinus, Hextilda Corbett and Anezka (Blue Tyger)
Trewpeny is dated to 1472 in Reaney & Wilson s.n. Trueblood. It's also found in "'Misplaced' Names in Reaney & Wilson" by Jeanne Marie Lacroix (Martha L. Ranc): http://heraldry.sca.org/names/misplacednamesbyname.htm
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13: Juliana de Luna -New Alternate Name (NP)
OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2000, via Æthelmearc.
Giuliana della Luna
Giuliana is a feminine given name dated to 1427 in Florence in "Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427" by Arval Benicoeur (Josh Mittleman), https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/catasto/
della Luna is a family name; it appears in the Florence 1427 Catasto database as DELLALUNA (remembering that they removed capitalization and spaces) in "Family Names Appearing in the Catasto of 1427", https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ferrante/catasto/family_names.html
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14: Malik ibn Qarin ibn al-Maridi ibn Jinni al-'Abdari al-Shaybani -New Alternate Name (NP)
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
ʻĀmir al-Ṣiḳillī
Submitter desires a gender-neutral name.
No changes.
Submitter is from Porte de l'Eau
NB: all images come from The Encyclopaedia of Islam, 2nd edition.
The first attached image demontrates the use of the name ʻĀmir in 1451 CE, 1488-1517 CE, during the reign of the Kalifā ʻUthmān (644-656 CE) and the Kalifā Muʼāwiya (661-680 CE), and in 614 CE. The second attached image shows the name al-Ṣiḳillī dated to 950 CE, within 500 years of all the above (NB: all names are Arabic, as shown by the cited images).
The name follows the pattern ism + byname shown in https://dragonstrike.neocities.org/arabic/nmfrmgen.html.
An objection may be raised that this name is presumptuous because it uses a title, which is forbidden by SENA PN4.B.1, "Use of Elements that Appear to Be Titles". This however is incorrect, as ʻĀmir is not the title Amīr. As the third attached image shows, the spelling is not the same. It should be noted that the ʻ in ʻĀmir transliterates a full-sized letter in Arabic, not a diacritical mark.
Specifically, ʻĀmir is عَامِر while Amīr is اَمِير. As you can see, in the original Arabic they are only vaguely similar.
Even more important is the matter of pronunciation. ʻĀmir begins with a sound not known in English; I've seen it described as a voiced glottal stop, a "g" pronounced as deep in the throat as possible, and even as a sound like gagging. The vowels in ʻĀmir are, first, the sound of "a" in father, then the "i" in pit; the accent is on the first syllable. The vowels in Amīr are, first, the "a" in pat, then the "i" in machine, with the accent on the second syllable. (Vowel sounds are approximate). Thus, ʻĀmir and Amīr do not sound alike, and only mispronunciation can confuse them.
I bring up the matter of mispronunciation as I believe the well-known ruling that there is no offense caused by mispronunciation (Basilius Fuchs, Dec. 2010 A-An Tir) should be extended to matters of presumption.
Note that when Diarmait mac Domnaill was registered (A-Calo, Apr 2007), it was stated "However, for matters of conflict, we should not consider mispronunciations". This was reaffirmed in the registration of Catelin the Wanderer (A-AnTir, Aug 2007). While these were some time ago, I see nothing that overturned that precedent.
There is also the matter of Paul de Lever (A-Trim, Mar 2020) where is was ruled "By precedent, the fact that one could deliberately mispronounce a name to come up with a potentially offensive phrase is not a bar to registration. [Basilius Fuchs, Dec. 2010, A-An Tir] The same is true when obtrusive modernity depends on a deliberate mispronunciation."
I note also the registration of Hilla Storm Bringer (A-Midd, Dec 2018) where it says "Questions were raised in commentary about whether the byname Storm Bringer is an impermissible claim to supernatural powers. ...Storm Bringer as documented is not a literal descriptive byname. It is a combination of two independent 16th century English bynames, Storm and Bringer. By the 16th century, English surnames were inherited rather than literal. Therefore,...the combination of these two names does not actually mean 'storm bringer,'...Just as we do not penalize submitters for deliberate mispronunciations of their names that may sound offensive, we should not penalize submitters for misunderstanding the meaning of their name." While this Hilla's name's problem has to do with misunderstanding rather than mispronuncation per se, it does mention mispronuncation, and has to do with presumption. I thought, therefore, it was worth mentioning.
I ask one and all to consider that it has been ruled there is no offense via mispronuncation, no conflict via mispronuncation, and no obtrusive modernity via mispronuncation. I believe it reasonable to extend the basic idea and rule there is no presumption via mispronuncation. At the least, that there is no claim to a title via mispronuncation.
In short, I believe ʻĀmir al-Ṣiḳillī is not presumptuous, contains documented name elements dated within 500 years of each other, and follows a period pattern of names. Thus, I believe it is registerable.
I thank all who have read this for their time.
In Service, Basil Dragonstrike
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 15: Sibylla de Waryn -New Name (NP) & New Device
Azure, a swan naiant and on a point pointed argent a compass star azure
Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes. Spelling (as submitted) most important.
Sibylla can be found on familysearch.org; Sibylla Robins married Rob Duffilde on July 6 1572 in Dunstable, Bedford, Englad, batch:M00501-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2KQ-MH7).
de Waryn can be found in "Women Pilgrims in Late Medieval England" by Susan S. Morrison (
https://oscar.sca.org/s.php?u=2475
[ books.google.com ] ) on page 160:
"October 20 1350 [As in October 12, 1350, also on pilgrimage to Rome] Abbess of Berkyng, nominating Lionel de Bradenham and Adam de Waryn as above."
This source cites the Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward III, 1348-1350, dating the name to 1350.
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 16: Sibylla de Waryn -New Badge
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
Azure, in pale a compass star and a feather fesswise argent
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 17: Sibylla de Waryn -New Badge
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
Or, a fox sejant and on a chief enarched sable three compass stars argent
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 18: Sibylla de Waryn -New Badge
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
Or, a fox tail palewise sable tipped argent
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 19: Sibylla de Waryn -New Badge
OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.
Per chevron ploye throughout sable fretty Or nailed gules and gules, in base a compass star Or
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 20: William Jakes -New Device Change
OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 1994, via Caid.
Per bend sinister gules and sable, a hand mirror and on a chief argent a rose fesswise reversed gules slipped and leaved vert
Old Item: Sable semy of thistle heads argent, on a chief Or a rose proper slipped and leaved vert, to be released.
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In Heraldic Service, Bantiarna Sadhbh Bheag Lion's Blood Herald
OSCAR counts 8 Names, 3 Alternate Names, 6 Devices, 1 Device Change and 9 Badges. There are a total of 27 items submitted on this letter. |