Laurel LoPaD dated 2018-04-30

To all the College of Arms and all others who may read this missive, from Juliana Laurel, Alys Pelican, and Cormac Wreath, greetings.

This letter contains the issues raised in the February 2018 LoAR for CoA discussion. The text in this letter is mostly copied verbatim from that LoAR; it is provided here for convenience. The one exception is the continued discussion of gender-neutral titles, which includes information not published in the Cover Letter. As with a April LoI, these matters are currently scheduled for the Pelican and Wreath meetings in July 2018. Original commentary, responses, and rebuttals to commentary must be entered into OSCAR no later than Saturday, June 30, 2018.

1: Award or Grant of Arms - New Other

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.


The November 2017 Palimpsest Letter proposed Gentle as a new, gender-neutral alternative English title at the level of Award of Arms. Several commenters favored using Noble or Armiger as a gender-neutral title, rather than Gentle. We are pending this title to gather specific commentary comparing these three options.

Here is some of the evidence for the use of each word in our period.


The Oxford English Dictionary's entry for "gentle" says that when applied to persons, gentle means "in heraldic use: Having the rank or status of `gentleman', the distinguishing mark of which is the right to bear arms". Thus, the adjective is appropriate for a person at the level of the award of arms. The word is used with names in Shakespeare's Two Gentlemen of Verona: "What think'st thou of the gentle Protheus." Two examples of forms of the word used with given names from Chaucer are "O worthy, gentil Alisandre" and "Now telle on, gentil Roger". Thus, using this word in combination with a given name is appropriate. Note that restricting "Gentle" as a title to be used with a given name, as in "Gentle Robin" or "Gentle Alisandre", would not prevent people from referring generally to "good gentles", just as the use of "Lord" and "Lady" as a title does not prevent the use of the polite generality "my lords and ladies".


The adjective "noble" in medieval English indicated a person of high rank. It was used in address. Examples from Chaucer include "O noble, o worthy Petro, glorie of Spayne" and "O noble Sampsoun". The 1386 Rolls of Parliament include an address beginning "Moost noble & Worthiest Lordes".


"Armiger" literally means a person who bears arms. The word originally may have referred to a person who carried armor, but by the sixteenth century it specifically meant someone with heraldic arms. Records from our period usually have Armiger after a name. For example, a 1384 record describes "Garland Godefelawe, alias dictus [otherwise called] Garlof Ducheman, Armiger." Note that even if Armiger is not approved as a heraldic title, it is appropriate to use the noun in this way. For example, a person named Robin Goodfellow with an Award of Arms could sign messages as Robin Goodfellow, Armiger.

Correction to Other (2018-May-02 15:05:29): If anyone who does not have commenting privileges wants to comment on this item, please send e-mail to and

2: Cristoff Gockerhan von Loch - New Alternate Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2009, via the East.

Hillarius Clock Werk

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Submitted as Hillarius Clock Ring, this name provoked significant discussion about whether it was offensive. After the close of commentary, the submitter indicated that he would accept an alternate name that sounded like "Hilarious Clock Work" if it could be documented. Hillarius Clock Werk can be documented as a late period German name from the Family Search Historical Records:

Hilarius is a German given name dated to 22 Feb. 1572 in Wuerttemberg, Germany, Batch: C95734-1 ( Alternatively, the spelling Hillarius is found in 16th century England, in a christening record dated 21 Mar 1581 from St. Modwen's, Burton Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England, Batch: C04287-9 ( Sixteenth century English name elements may be borrowed into German per the February 2015 Cover Letter.

Clock is a German surname dated to 17 Apr 1622 a christening record from Cöln, Rheinland, Preußen, Germany, Batch: C39715-2 (

Werk is a German surname dated to 04 Apr 1581 in the burial record of Elisabetha Werk, Asperg, Württemberg, Germany, Batch: B39715-1 (

Appendix A permits double surnames in German.

Although the name can be documented, there remains a question of whether Hillarius Clock Werk or Hilarius Clock Werk is obtrusively modern. Therefore, we are pending the name for additional discussion on that specific issue.

This was item 8 on the East letter of November 30, 2017. (

3: Lilavatibai of Lochac - New Name

Submitted as Lilavati_ of Lochac, the submitter requested the attested Rajput name Lilavatibai if possible. The -bai suffix in Lilavatibai appears to be an honorific suffix.

We are pending this name for further research on the suffix -bai and how it was used in Rajput names period. We also wish discussion of whether registration of -bai and similar honorific suffixes in Indian names should be limited to persons of a certain rank in the Society, open to general registration, or omitted entirely.

This was item 6 on the Lochac letter of November 24, 2017.(

Correction to Name (2018-May-23 15:05:07): The submitter has withdrawn her request for Lilavatibai and will accept registration as Lilavati of Lochach.

4: Sárán mac Sáráin and Sigveig Snæbjarnardóttir - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name (Sárán mac Sáráin) registered exactly as it appears in March of 2015, via Gleann Abhann.
OSCAR is unable to find the name (Sigveig Snæbjarnardóttir) , either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) On a Norse sun cross gules, a fox courant argent

This badge is pended for discussion on use of Norse sun crosses.

Along with the swastika, a particular kind of equal-armed Celtic cross is the most common symbol currently in use by white supremacist groups worldwide. Normally described by them as a "Celtic cross," it's generally a simple cross couped surmounted by an annulet; less frequently that cross is entirely within the annulet. Whether within or surmounting, the charges are always conjoined, forming a single charge not dissimilar to the crosshairs of a firearm.

The more typical version -- the "crosshair" depiction of a plain cross surmounting and conjoined to an annulet was ruled unregisterable in the January 2010 return of Sadb ingen Chonchobair's device, Argent, on a catamount rampant vert a straight-armed Latinate Celtic cross argent. However, the return did not address Norse sun crosses, nor did it address use of the symbol by white supremacists.

We currently allow both Norse sun crosses and a different depiction of an equal-armed Celtic cross, with potent arms rather than plain ones. While currently accepted in SCA heraldry, precedent says that neither Celtic crosses in any depiction nor Norse sun crosses have been attested in period heraldry. We encourage commenters to look at the information in Coblaith Muimnech's "Crosses in S.C.A. Heraldry: Period Crosses" ( as they form their comments on this subject.

We ask the College for advice on how to handle Norse sun crosses and equal-armed Celtic crosses (both couped and the registerable potent-armed variety). In the past, we have disallowed some charges completely and allowed some charges only in contexts that have no other references to white supremacy.

This was item 7 on the Gleann Abhann letter of November 20, 2017. (

Correction to Badge (2018-May-01 22:05:22): If anyone who does not have commenting privileges wants to comment on this item, please send e-mail to and

5: Toran Saraev - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2008, via Trimaris.

Gules, in pale a staple inverted argent and a t'ai-chi per fess argent and sable

This badge is pended so that the discussion can take place on the device of Eyricke Rycard, pended on the January 2018 LoAR to consider the registerability of the t'ai-chi motif under SENA.

This was item 8 on the Trimaris letter of November 30, 2017. (

Pray know that I remain,

In service,

Juliana de Luna
Laurel Queen of Arms

OSCAR counts 1 Name, 1 Alternate Name, 2 Badges and 1 Other. There are a total of 5 items submitted on this letter.