An Tir LoI dated 2017-10-18

Unto the Laurel Sovereign of Arms and College of Arms greetings,

Please find herein the An Tir submissions for this month.

1: 'Izza al-Dimashqiyya. - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Language most important.
Culture (14th to 16th century Ottoman) most important.

The submitter's branch is Wealdsmere.

'Izza:

Found as a feminine name in Appleton, David B. "PERIOD ARABIC NAMES AND NAMING PRACTICES" <http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm>.

al-Dimashqiyya:

Appleton, David B. "PERIOD ARABIC NAMES AND NAMING PRACTICES" <http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm>. It is found as a masculine locative byname which we have changed to the feminine form based on the submitter's request for a feminine name.


2: Alexandre de Sant Romà de Sau - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity.
Sound (Most important would be to use Roma as the byname) most important.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

The submitter's branch is Wealdsmere.

Alexandre - French, Portuguese, Catalan and Galician form of the name Alexander. Found as a name in the account books of Isabel of Castilla as mentioned in Smith, Julia. "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" <http://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/index.html>. Also found as early as 1128 (Diez Melcon) and into the 15th century including shortened forms (De Atienza, Julio & De Atienza, Julio) as referenced in Academy of St. Gabriel Report 1554 <http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/1554.txt>.

de Sant Romà de Sau - Location name indicating from the city of de Sant Romà de Sau which was a city located in the municipality of Vilanova de Sau, Catalonia, Spain. SENA Appendix A documents locatives for both Castilian and Catalan. The locative can be constructed, based on additional documentation provided in kingdom commentary.

de Sau is found as a part of Villanova de Sau in Cataloniae Principatus novissima et accurata descriptio, dated to 1612.

http://cartotecadigital.icc.cat/cdm/ref/collection/catalunya/id/1871

Sant Romà is dated to the 9/10th c.

http://patmapa.gencat.cat/web/guest/patrimoni/jaciments?articleId=HTTP://ARQUEODADA_JACIMENT_15928

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
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3: Barony of Lions Gate - New Order Name

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Award of the Loat

Tir Righ Submission

Submitted as "Honor of the Loat", commentary pointed out: https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=35845 declares that "The use of Honor or Honour as an order name designator is grandfathered to the Kingdom of An Tir" and lists several examples. The most recent use of the designator independent of the kingdom was <Sundragon, Honor of the>, Sundragon, Barony of, Sep 1984 (via Atenveldt). (<Belated Barberry, Honor of the> was transferred from An Tir to the Principality of the Summits in March of 2017.)

The submitter indicated that "Award of" was an acceptable designator in place of "Honor of"

The heraldic title Sable Loat Pursuivant was registered to the Barony of Lions Gate in May of 2016. Under SENA NPN.1. Non-Personal Names Content C.2.g -"Branches may register new heraldic titles and order names based on patterns used in their existing heraldic titles or order names.".


4: Barony of Lions Gate - New Order Name

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Golden Dandelion, Order of the

Tir Righ Submission

Submitted as "Gilded Dandelion, Order of the", commentary pointed out: http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/12/13-12lar.html#70, Raven's Cove, Barony of, Order name Order of the Gilded Pheon: "we will ... disallow gilded in order names after the June 2014 Laurel meeting."

The submitter indicated "Golden" was acceptable.

First to document the elements to period.

Order is our standard designator, so no problem there.

Middle English Dictionary s.n. golden (adj.)

3. Having the color of gold

(a1398) * Trev. Barth.(Add 27944) 198b/a: Þe colour þerof is demed golden by day and fyry by night.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=id&id=MED19037

Middle English Dictionary s.n. dent-de-līǒun (n.)

(a) The dandelion;

?c1425 *Chauliac(2) (Paris angl.25) 169a/a: Colrik mater..is digested with colde thinges and openyng þinges as ben þe herbes..marygolde, dandelyon.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=id&id=MED11102

And to finish the spelling to Dandelion

[March 2016 LoAR, A-Atlantia] Eadyth Woderose. Name.

As i/y switches are common in Middle English, the submitted spelling is also registerable.

Dandelions are registered as an heraldic charge as recently as March 2017.

This submission follows the pattern Color+Heraldic Charge.

Medieval Secular Order Names: Fraternal Knightly Organizations by Juliana de Luna

http://heraldry.sca.org/names/order/new/Fraternal_Knightly_Organizations.html#Gold(en)%20Apple%20(France)

Gold(en) Apple (France) - This fraternal organization of knights was organized in 1394


5: Barony of Lions Gate - New Order Name

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Rampant Lion, Order of the

Tir Righ Submission

Submitted as "Striking Lion, Order of the", commentary pointed out:

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2017/06/17-06cl.html#3 declares, "the category Other Adjective + Charge does not allow all types of adjective to be added to a heraldic charge to create an order name. The Other Adjective must be a clear visual description of the charge itself, like Double or Crowned or Winged."

The submitter has indicated "Rampant" is acceptable.


6: Brendan Shimmeringstar - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 1982, via the West.

(Fieldless) A badger rampant azure marked argent.

The submitter's branch is Wyewood.

With the submitter's permission, this artwork was redone at kingdom to more closely resemble a badger.


7: Catrine la Crosetiere - New Name & New Device

Quarterly azure and vert, on a cauldron argent a candle sable enflamed gules.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for French.

Catrine:

is a female given name Catrine found in "Index of Scots names found in Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue: Saint Catherine" by by Sara L. Uckelman Sanct Catrine 1 1483 (chaplanry) Catrine Is found in Family Search IGI Catrine Simons

England Births and Christenings

Name Catrine Simons

Gender Female

Christening Date 15 Oct 1583

Christening Date (Original) 15 OCT 1583

Christening Place CROWLE,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

Father's Name Thomas Simons

Mother's Name Marget

Citing this Record

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYFG-7HC : 6 December 2014, Catrine Simons, 15 Oct 1583); citing CROWLE,WORCESTER,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 246,650, 352,030.

No image available

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Indexing Project (Batch) Number C02116-2

Using SENA Appendix C we are able to provide Catrine as the submitter desired

la: is an occupational byname marker found in French.

Crosetiere: is a feminine form of"crosetier"This byname is found in Colm Dubh's "Occupational Bynames in 1292 Paris" http://heraldry.sca.org/names/parisbynames.html

With the client's permission, this emblazon was recolored at the kingdom level (making the flame gules).


8: Cola di Cocco Carboni - New Name & New Device

Argent semy of rustres, a chief indented sable.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Mist.

All three name elements Cocco, Cola, and Carboni, are found in the Online Tratte of Office Holders dating to the 1300s.

Cola and Cocco: http://cds.library.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/TLNAME1.html

Carboni: http://cds.library.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/TLSURNAM1.html

The naming pattern: given name + di + given name + family name is common throughout period on the Italian peninsula as is given name + family name; Submitter will accept Cola Carboni if full name is not registerable. (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/arezzo.html).

Name has been changed from Cocco di Cola Carboni to Cola di Cocco Carboni at the request of the submitter.

The commentary brought up the concern of obtrusive modernity. However since all names are found in the same time period and place, it is conceivable that the name could be constructed as requested, nor, do we feel that the name is obtrusive enough to prevent registration.


9: Conchobar Bernach - New Name & New Device

Per chevron sable semé of estoilles of five rays argent and vert, in base a boar rampant argent

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for 9th - 10th Century Irish.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

Tir Righ Submission

Originally Submitted as Conchobhor Bearnach, we have changed the spelling to meet the submitter's request for 9th/10th c. Irish

Conchobar: http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Conchobar.shtml

Bearnach: [the] Gapped[-Tooth] is listed in

Index of Names in Irish Annals: Masculine Descriptive Bynames by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/DescriptiveBynames/Alpha.shtml)

Bynames as described in Names and Naming Practices in the Fitzwilliam Accounts from 16th Century Ireland by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn: In the Latin records, names include only a single byname (whether a personal nickname or a patronym), unless one counts the title Barone de Gal-trym as a byname. The bynames are not Latinized, and names that appear in both the Latin and English records have identical or highly similar spellings. (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/lateirish/fitzwilliam.html)

Men's Bynames as described in Quick and Easy Gaelic Names by Sharon L. Krossa: The standard way to form a name using a descriptive adjective byname for men is: <single given name> <descriptive adjective> (http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/#descriptivebyname)

From Commentary: We find Bearnach as a byname only after 1200, so the spelling Bearnach is what we see. The eDIL shows us the earlier medieval form of the word is Bernach. Conchobhar Bearnach is the post-1200 expected form, but to meet his request for 9th/10th c. Irish, this needs to be Conchobar Bernach. http://www.dil.ie/5715

Re Celtic boar, see http://herald.lochac.sca.org/files/came1/1998/09/came198_09.html (1. Bran Torc Dubh Mac Brude) for a scribal note re the use of a Celtic boar.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1734/2017-10-17/23-11-27_Conchobar_name_01.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1734/2017-10-17/23-11-29_Conchobar_name_02.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1734/2017-10-17/23-11-31_Conchobar_name_03.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1734/2017-10-17/23-11-33_Conchobhor_name0001.jpeg
#5 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1734/2017-10-17/23-11-34_Conchobhor_name0002.jpeg

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#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1734/2017-10-17/23-16-30_Conchobar_device_01.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1734/2017-10-17/23-16-34_Conchobar_device_02.jpg


10: Davide di Francesco Dominici - New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in December of 2014, via An Tir.

Azure, a cross of Toulouse Or between two bars gemel argent.

Old Item: Per chevron ployé azure and argent, in dexter chief a cross patonce Or., to be retained as a badge.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Mist.


11: Doclor of Dragon Haven - New Name & New Device

Per pale argent and Or, issuant from a tower a dragon's head to sinister sable.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound (Sounds like) most important.

The submitter's branch is Cranehaven.

Doclor is dated to 1644 Germany on Family Search <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCP3-NXT>.

<Dragonhaven> is a constructed place name.

The May 2008 LoAR discusses -haven in constructed English placenames:

"When this element was ruled SCA--compatible as a deuterotheme in English place names, the only examples that had been found to that point appended the element Haven to an already existing place name. Since then, examples have been found of -haven used as a genuine deuterotheme, in Whytehauene 1279 and Whithaven 1535 (Watts s.n. Whitehaven), and Kihavene, Kyhavene c.1 170-1316 and Kayhaven 1532 (Watts s.n. Keyhaven)."

Watts glosses <Keyhaven> as "the cow's haven." Juliana's article Compound Placenames in English (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/EnglishCompoundPlacenames/index.shtml) shows several examples of Haven added (as a second word) to an existing placename, including Deere Haven. This seems to support Animal + Haven; whether it supports Monster + Haven seems worth discussing.

The spelling <Dragon>, referring to the mythical beast, is dated to period per the OED:

c1540 (▸?a1400) Destr. Troy 166 A derfe dragon drede to be-holde.

Feb 2016 CL allows borrowing of German names into English contexts, with limitations -

'Therefore, we will not add the English-German lingual mix to Appendix C of SENA. However, we will allow the borrowing of given names from German into English and vice versa, in the context of the 16th and early 17th centuries. An English given name that is borrowed from German is considered to be English under Appendix C, and a German given name that is borrowed from English is considered to be German. '

All elements of this name can be documented to the 16th/17th centuries, so we are able to use this given name and byname together.


12: Domnall Scriptor - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2015, via An Tir.

Per saltire azure and gules, in pale a compass Or and a quill pen bendwise sinister argent.

The submitter's branch is Cranehaven.

With the submitter's permission, the emblazon was altered at kingdom to bring the quill pen into a blazonable orientation.


13: Dragon's Mist, Barony of - New Badge

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Dragon's Mist, Barony of in December of 2015, via An Tir.

Argent, a lamp gules and on a chief nebuly sable five plates.


14: Esa inghean Alasdair - New Name & New Device

Argent, a sea-cat maintaining an arrow in it's dexter forepaw sable on a chief vert three triskellions of spirals sable

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Meaning most important.

Esa - Esa 1330 [PAPAY, 646] <http://heraldry.sca.org/names/scottishfem.html>

inghean <hitp://heraldry.sca.org/names/simplescotgaelicnames12.htm>

Alasdair - Mari nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O'Brien) cites Eoin mac Alasdair to 1465, from Index of Names in Irish Annals: Alaxandar, Alaxandair (Alasdrann, Alasdar) <http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Alaxandar.shtml>.

Correction to Name (2017-Nov-10 19:11:03): NB: Tir Righ Submission


15: Francis Darcy - Resub Appeal of Laurel Return of Device

OSCAR finds the name on the An Tir LoI of October 31, 2016 as submitted.

Per fess rayonny gules and argent, three roses counterchanged.

The submitter's branch is Three Mountains.

The submission includes the following discussion of a previous return at the Laurel level:

Original Return

In February 2017, Francis Darcy's device was returned for conflict with Katerina de Glen: Per fess argent and sable, two roses gules and a rose argent all barbed and seeded proper. Only one DC was given for changes to the field, with no DCs for the change of tincture to the primary charge group as half of the roses remained white, and half of the roses remained red with only one of the three roses changing from gules to argent.

A second conflict was called with Odillia Marguerite du Parc: Per fess argent and gules, three cinquefoils counterchanged. As above, only one DC was given for the changes to field and none for the change of tincture to the primary charge group as half the roses remained white and half remained red with one rose changing from red to white. There is no DC between cinquefoils and roses.

Appeal

We believe that this return is based on an application of the wrong part of SENA. SENA A5G3a, which discusses what is required for a change of tincture to count, says:

If the tincture of at least half the charge group is changed, the charge group will be considered different. There is a distinct change (DC) for swapping or rotating the tinctures of a charge group evenly divided into two, three, or four parts. [emphasis added]

Note that this rule does not penalize "forced" changes of tincture. The only discussion of forced changes is in changes to arrangement (about which more in a moment).

Application of SENA A5G3a

Consider how this rule is applied to different kinds of charge groups. First, consider a single rose split per fess argent and gules vs. a single rose split per fess gules and argent. The rule and precedent makes it clear that there is a DC for tincture between the two, even if the field would not allow the other tincture pattern to exist. There are two DCs between Per fess argent and gules, a rose counterchanged and Per fess gules and argent, a rose counterchanged.

The Darcy decision, together with the decision on Toivo Laukainen (which deals with "forced change" of posture/orientation in similar ways), argues that when there are multiple charges in a charge group, we must consider changes to arrangement of the individual charges within a charge group forced by tincture before we consider whether a DC can be given for any other changes. On the one hand, this is plausible given the broad principle that we give the greatest protection possible under our rules to the registered item.

On the other hand, the rules (in a carryover from the RfS), say clearly that we do not do this when comparing type of charges. Under SENA A5G3a, the design Per fess azure and argent, a lion passant and a mullet counterchanged is unproblematically clear of Per fess argent and azure, a mullet and a lion passant counterchanged. Note that each has a white lion and a blue mullet which are forced by tincture to be in that location. However, SENA A5E2 says clearly, "When possible, each charge in the new armory is compared to the charge in the corresponding location in the protected armory." So at least for type, "forced changes" do not remove the difference.

SENA A5G3a refers to charge groups, not charges. Therefore, the statement:

There is a distinct change (DC) for swapping or rotating the tinctures of a charge group evenly divided into two, three, or four parts.

can apply to individual charges within the charge group or to the charge group as a whole. As we have shown above, for a charge group consisting of a single charge, rotating the tinctures gives a DC even if the rotation is "forced." To treat charge groups consisting of multiple charges differently violates the concept that a charge group should always be treated the same way whether the charge group contains a single charge or multiple charges. Note that the section on forced changes of arrangement as written does not have that problem: a charge group of any size from one to semy can be forced to chief, to dexter, etc., by changes of field tincture.

Forced Changes

SENA A5G6 discusses how forced changes do not contribute a distinct change:

Changes to other parts of the design frequently cause changes to the arrangement of charge groups. We call these changes forced; there is no distinct change for a forced change of arrangement. A change to the primary charge group can force the change of arrangement of a secondary charge group. When a type of a charge requires a specific arrangement, there is no distinct change for arrangement when the type of charge is changed.

The discussed changes only affect the arrangement of the charges.

A5G6 also discusses how tincture can force charges into different positions on the field:

Changes in tincture of a divided field or the tincture of a charge group can force the charges into different positions on the field. These forced changes are also not worth a distinct change.

However, when looking at the examples, it becomes clear that the forced changes to the charges are changes to arrangement. The charges were changed in their positions relative to one another. In the submitted device, the charges remained in the same arrangement as the charges in the registered device -- there has been no forced change of arrangement. Instead, the tinctures have been rotated as permitted in A5G3a.

Conclusion

We believe that SENA makes it clear that the idea of "forced changes" is limited to the arrangement of charges on the field. Other changes - of type, of tincture, and of posture - should be compared looking at the charge group as it exists with no attention to "forcing" of the location of individual charges within the group. If this decision is upheld, we believe that SENA needs to be revised to make it clear that we are changing the way these rules should be applied and that those changes should affect single charges as well as multiple ones.

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#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1338/2017-10-14/16-10-57_Francis_device_0002.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1338/2017-10-14/16-10-58_Francis_device_0003.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1338/2017-10-14/16-10-59_Francis_device_0004.jpg


16: Guiote de Bourgogne - New Name

No major changes.
Language (French) most important.
Culture (15th century Bourgogne) most important.

The submitter's branch is Aquaterra.

Guiote: "French Names from Paris, 1421, 1423, & 1438"

http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/paris1423.html

The source cited for the given name is also found as a no-photocopy source at http://heraldry.sca.org/names/french/paris1423.html. It lists Guiote as a feminine given name mentioned once in a tax role from Paris dated to 1421, -23, or -38.

de Bourgogne: The Bourgogne surname can be dated to 1190, according to page 105 of the Dictionnarie etymologique des noms de lieux en France, which is Appendix H.

SENA states that toponymics of the form "de [period French place name]" require no further documentation (http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixAFrench)


17: Kumata Kurou Ie'naga - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in June of 2013, via An Tir.

Old Item: Raher Fitz Rannulf, to be retained as an alternate name.
Submitter desires a masculine name.

Buke (Japanese military class) masculine name see NCMJ Rev Ed <family name><common name><nanori>

Kumata 熊田: Bear+Rice Paddy Constructed Family Name See Bear (1183) p. 172 & Rice Paddy (1183) p. 143 NCMJ Rev Ed.

Kurou 九郎: #9 Son Common Name (1332) p. 371 NCMJ Rev Ed.

Ie'naga 家永: Masculine Nanori (1332) p. 335 NCMJ Rev. Ed

Name elements were all found in Name Construction in Medieval Japan and was found to have no conflicts.


18: Lissette de la Rose - New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) On a Catherine's wheel Or, a rose purpure.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Mist.


19: Raher Fitz Rannulf - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2013, via An Tir.

(Fieldless) A delf voided and fracted conjoined at the corners with four Japanese nail pullers two and two gules.

This submission is to be associated with Kumata Kurou Ie'naga

This is a Pennsic submission. It was determined in kingdom commentary that the emblazon had been colored incorrectly and that some documentation was missing. The coloring has been fixed, and new documentation provided by commenters is attached. The Japanese nail puller would be a new charge in SCA heraldry, and is found in the O-umajirushi (completed in 1650).

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1338/2017-10-14/21-40-34_Raher_badge_docfromcommentary1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1338/2017-10-14/21-40-35_Raher_badge_docfromcommentary2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1338/2017-10-14/21-40-35_Raher_badge_docfromcommentary3.jpg


20: Sigriðr Vilhjalmsdottir - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Laire.

Sigriðr - Female given name, p. 14 of "The Old Norse Name," Geirr-Bassi Haraldsson

Vilhjalmr - Male given name, p. 17 of "The Old Norse Name," Geirr-Bassi Haraldsson


21: Zayd al-Ifriqi - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

The submitter's branch is Wyewood.

Zayd:

Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith)'s "Andalusian Names: Arabs in Spain" <https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/andalusia/>, as well as in the below.

al-Ifriqi:

Da'ud ibn Auda (David B. Appleton)'s "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices," <http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm>. The construction of this name follows bullet 5.3, an ism followed by a nisba.

Only the first five pages of the included documentation are attached here. The remaining five will be attached in comments.


Yours in service,

Marya Demilion, Emelyn Boar, and Kattera Argent Scroll for Oddr Lions Blood.




OSCAR counts 10 New Names, 1 New Name Change, 3 New Order Names, 6 New Devices, 1 New Device Change and 4 New Badges. These 25 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $100 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Device. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 26 items submitted on this letter.