Lochac LoI dated 2017-06-26

Unto the Lochac Heralds, and those of the Knowne World does Lord Gunther Boese, Rocket Herald send greetings.

It is our intent to have the following registered.

1: Alexander a la Fontayne - New Transfer of Household Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2010, via Lochac.

Castle Rookwell, House of

I, mundane name, known in the SCA as Alexander a la Fontayne, do transfer to mundane name, known in the SCA as Amanda Martel, the following registrations:
- My arms, to wit "Gules, in pale three mascles between two pallets argent."
- The name of our household, to wit "Castle Rookwell, House of"
- The badge of our household, to wit "(Fieldless) In pale a rook sable rising from a chess rook per pale gules and azure."
I understand that these transfers cannot be withdrawn once made.
[signature]
03-05-2017


2: Alexander a la Fontayne - New Transfer of Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2010, via Lochac.

Gules, in pale three mascles between two pallets argent.

I, mundane name, known in the SCA as Alexander a la Fontayne, do transfer to mundane name, known in the SCA as Amanda Martel, the following registrations:
- My arms, to wit "Gules, in pale three mascles between two pallets argent."
- The name of our household, to wit "Castle Rookwell, House of"
- The badge of our household, to wit "(Fieldless) In pale a rook sable rising from a chess rook per pale gules and azure."
I understand that these transfers cannot be withdrawn once made.
[signature]
03-05-2017


3: Alexander a la Fontayne - New Transfer of Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2010, via Lochac.

(Fieldless) In pale a rook sable rising from a chess rook per pale gules and azure.

This submission is to be associated with Castle Rookwell, House of

I, mundane name, known in the SCA as Alexander a la Fontayne, do transfer to mundane name, known in the SCA as Amanda Martel, the following registrations:
- My arms, to wit "Gules, in pale three mascles between two pallets argent."
- The name of our household, to wit "Castle Rookwell, House of"
- The badge of our household, to wit "(Fieldless) In pale a rook sable rising from a chess rook per pale gules and azure."
I understand that these transfers cannot be withdrawn once made.
[signature]
03-05-2017


4: Alfdís Gandr - New Name & New Device

Vert, a mullet of four greater and four lesser points quarterly Or and argent.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No holding name.
No major changes.
Meaning most important.

Alfdís an Icelandic given name formed from two elements found on Icelandic and Heathen names By Haukur Þrogeirsson.
A combination of Alf a name prefix meaning "Elf" and Dís meaning noble and or beautiful woman.
http://www.irminsul.org/arc/012ht.html

Gandr an Old Norse byname meaning "witchcraft, sorcery" found on Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók by Aryanhwy merch Catmael.
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html

Name Notes from kingdom
There were problems found with the name at Kingdom Level. The following are comments from Kingdom.

Coblaith Muimnech at 2017-05-24 15:59:01
The source for the given name is an article that begins, "This is a list of Icelandic names that were used in heathen times.. . .The spelling used is more or less appropriate for the later part of the saga-writing period." Nothing in that indicates that the presented forms are attested in our period.

Fortunately, "Viking Names found in Landnámabók"(http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html), the companion piece to the article cited for the byname, lists "Álfdís" as a feminine given name found 2 or fewer times in that source (which dates to the second half of the 13th century). Unfortunately, "[i]n Norse names, the accents need to either be used consistently or omitted consistently," (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2001/11/01 11lar.html#26) so that gives you the option of "Alfdis" if authenticity is not desired, but not "Alfdís".

The cited source for the byname lists "gandr" as a byname used once for a woman in Landnámabók. But because capitalizing Norse bynames is not consistent with either period or modern standards for transliteration, descriptive bynames in Old Norse (other than those that are prepended or based on proper nouns) must be registered in lower case (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2002/10/02-10cl.html).

So, she can probably have "Álfdís gandr" or "Alfdis gandr", but without additional documentation what she's submitted won't pass.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-05-26 21:03:14
There's a more recent precedent. After discussion in 2012, http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/04/12-04cl.html, "From Pelican: Norse Capitalization" declared,

we are removing the requirement that descriptive bynames in Old Norse be registered only in lowercase. Descriptive bynames will be registered either in uppercase or in lowercase. This matches our usage in other languages, where we render most name elements in uppercase, although many documents are written only in lowercase.

We note that submitters whose bynames were changed under the old precedent who prefer the capitalized form may make a request for reconsideration.

Submitter may have <Álfdís> or <Alfdis> and <gandr> or <Gandr> at her pleasure. But apparently not the submitted <Alfdís>.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2017-05-25 02:34:28
I suspect she's going to run into trouble with the byname.
March 2010 LoAR sn. Galdra-Aron. Name.

The proposed byname Galdra- 'Witchcraft-, Sorcery-' violates RfS VI.2 Names Claiming Powers, which says "Names containing elements that allude to powers that the submitter does not possess are considered presumptuous. Society names may not claim divine descent, superhuman abilities, or other powers that the submitter does not actually possess." Previous Sovereigns have returned names with bynames meaning 'the sorceress' (Ragnhildr in Sieðkona, LoAR 01/2005, q.v.) and 'the wizard' (Dirk de Tovenaar, LoAR 03/2001, q.v.). The submitted byname is analogous. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/03/10-03lar.html

Cleasby Vigfusson suggest the noun "gandr" denotes "anything enchanted or an object used by sorcerers (http://lexicon.ff.cuni.cz/html/oi_cleasbyvigfusson/b0188.html) I believe in Ásatrú, the term is used to describe a staff or "wand" used for religious purposes.

What I'm less certain, if that is enough to argue that she's not claiming to be a sorceress herself, merely to be enchanted or used by one, and hence isn't a claim to supernatural powers? It's a question above my paygrade.

Device Notes from Kingdom Level

There is a step from period practice for use of a compass star, but that appears to be the only one.

No conflicts found.

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#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-04-16_Irminsul_Ættir_Archives_-_Nafnasafnið_page_6.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-04-18_Viking_Bynames_found_in_the_Landnamabok_page_1.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-04-20_Viking_Bynames_found_in_the_Landnamabok_page_5.jpg


5: Aliette Le Lièvre - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language (French) most important.
Culture (Northen France / Brittany) most important.

Aliette Feminine French given name found three times between 1508 and 1567 in "Given names from Brittany, 1384 - 1600" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn.
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/latebreton/

Le Lièvre French surname found 4 times in 1587 on "Late Period French Surnames (used by women)" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael.
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/latefrenchsurnames.html

Notes from Kingdom

Brunissende Dragonette (Wreath) at 2017-05-24 13:29:38
Documentation as cited. I find no conflict. That looks like a lovely 16th century name from the Northern third of France to me.

Conall an Doire (Blue Talbot) at 2017-06-12 12:11:34
docs look good and no conflicts found

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#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-07-19_French_Feminine_Names_page_17.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-07-21_Given_Names_from_Brittany,_1384-1600_page_1.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-07-22_Given_Names_from_Brittany,_1384-1600_page_2.jpg


6: Amanda Martel - New Acceptance of Household Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2016, via Lochac.

Castle Rookwell, House of

I, mundane name, known in the SCA as Amanda Martel, do accept the transfer from mundane name, known in the SCA as Alexander a la Fontayne, of the following registrations:
- The arms, to wit "Gules, in pale three mascles between two pallets argent." I wish for this to be registered as my primary device.
- The name of our household, to wit "Castle Rookwell, House of"
- The badge of our household, to wit "(Fieldless) In pale a rook sable rising from a chess rook per pale gules and azure." I wish to retain its association to the "House of Castle Rookwell."
I understand that these transfers cannot be withdrawn once made.
[signature]
03-05-2017


7: Amanda Martel - New Acceptance of Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2016, via Lochac.

Gules, in pale three mascles between two pallets argent.

I, mundane name, known in the SCA as Amanda Martel, do accept the transfer from mundane name, known in the SCA as Alexander a la Fontayne, of the following registrations:
- The arms, to wit "Gules, in pale three mascles between two pallets argent." I wish for this to be registered as my primary device.
- The name of our household, to wit "Castle Rookwell, House of"
- The badge of our household, to wit "(Fieldless) In pale a rook sable rising from a chess rook per pale gules and azure." I wish to retain its association to the "House of Castle Rookwell."
I understand that these transfers cannot be withdrawn once made.
[signature]
03-05-2017


8: Amanda Martel - New Acceptance of Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2016, via Lochac.

(Fieldless) In pale a rook sable rising from a chess rook per pale gules and azure.

This submission is to be associated with Castle Rookwell, House of

I, mundane name, known in the SCA as Amanda Martel, do accept the transfer from mundane name, known in the SCA as Alexander a la Fontayne, of the following registrations:
- The arms, to wit "Gules, in pale three mascles between two pallets argent." I wish for this to be registered as my primary device.
- The name of our household, to wit "Castle Rookwell, House of"
- The badge of our household, to wit "(Fieldless) In pale a rook sable rising from a chess rook per pale gules and azure." I wish to retain its association to the "House of Castle Rookwell."
I understand that these transfers cannot be withdrawn once made.
[signature]
03-05-2017


9: Ana de Vuallachia - New Name & New Device

Per chevron vert and argent, three escarbuncles and an oaktree eradicated, counterchanged.

Ana
Victor V. Vizauer, Adinel Dinca, Mihai Hasan 2011. "Antroponimia în Transilvania medievala (secolele XI-XIV)" [Anthroponymy in medieval Transylvania (XI-XIV centuries)] Volume 2. (Cluj-Napoca: Editura Mega); p. 40. ISBN 978-606-543-191-1

Ana, feminine, dated 1366.

de Vuallachia
The submitter wants a locative byname meaning "of Wallachia," and has selected the Latinised Transylvanian Saxon spelling "Vuallachia."
Historicum opus, by Simon Schard, published 1574, p. 76 (https://books.google.com.au/books?id=KNREAAAAcAAJ) mentions "... ex parte Vuallachia est..."

Name comments from Kingdom

not familar with the docs, however no conflict found

Device notes from Kingdom Level

There was a discussion about if there was co-primmarys or primary and secondary charges. The device was redrawn.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-09-32_Ana-page-001.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-09-34_Ana-page-002.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-09-35_de_Vuallachia1.png
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/13-09-35_de_Vuallachia2.png


10: Antonio Lucenzo de Zaragoza - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2016, via Lochac.

Or, three pairs of swords in saltire gules, and a chief sable fretty Or.

Comments from kingdom

That feels like a very wide chief. However ut is less than 1/3 the height of the shield so should be ok.

No conflicts found.


11: Asbjørn Pedersen - New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in April of 2003, via Caid.

Vert, a bear rampant maintaining a lightning bolt Or.

Old Item: Per fess vert and azure, a bear rampant maintaining a lightning bolt and a dolphin naiant Or., to be retained as a badge.

Comments from kingdom

There is a step from period practice for the use of lightning bolts not as part of a thunderbolt, but no others that I can see.

No conflict found

Correction to Device (2017-Jul-18 02:07:32): Permission to conflict is in the packets.


12: Cecilia Ine Queerke - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2015, via Lochac.

Or, three fish in pall embowed, gules.

This motif is based on the arms of van Hanfstengel in in Siebmacher's

Wappenbuch. Plate 163, bottom row, second from the right (image attached).

Notes from Kingdom

No conflicts found.

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13: Cornelius Grimm - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Lochac LoI of December 31, 2016 as submitted.

Or, a penguin proper, in canton a lozenge ployé gules

Comments from Kingdom

Change in blazon from "Or, a penguin close proper, a lozenge ploye gules." to "Or, a penguin proper, in canton a lozenge ployé gules.".

No conflicts found.

Redraw of picture to correct the colours.


14: Darton, Shire of - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in April of 2003, via Caid.

(Fieldless) a hunting horn Or.

This submission is to be associated with Populace Badge

Comments from kingdom

no conflict found


15: Eleanor d'Arcy - Resub Device

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Eleanor d'Arcy in June of 2016, via Lochac.

Per pale wavy gules and azure, on a plate a dragon dormant sable.

Notes for returned submission LOAR February 2017

Eleanor d'Arcy. Device. Argent, a bend sinister gules between a feather fesswise and a dragon dormant sable.
This device is returned for multiple conflicts. It conflicts with the device of Wion Neilson: Argent, a bend sinister gules between a lion and a cross potent sable. There is only one DC for changing the types of the charges around the bend sinister.

It also conflicts with the device of Delia Weaver: Argent, a bend sinister gules between a spider inverted and a spiderweb sable. Again, there is only one DC for changing the types of the charges around the bend sinister.

On resubmission, please ensure that the dragon is identifiable. Some commenters had trouble recognizing the charge in the current posture.

Comments from kingdom

Iago ab Adam at 2017-05-24 18:13:45
This dragon is much more clearly identifiable than the one on the previous submission (which can be seen here: https://oscar.sca.org/kingdom/kingsingleitem.php?kingdom=18&id=69827 ).

Iago ab Adam at 2017-05-24 23:17:46
No conflicts found.

Gabriella Borromei (Aquarius) at 2017-06-06 06:27:16
It was suggested originally that the wavy may not be identifable enough, client is happy to portray with more undulation if necessary.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-06 14:39:04
I concur with Lady Eleyne (below): The line is identifiable.

Eleyne de Comnocke at 2017-06-05 07:26:30
A complex line on a low contrast field with an overlying charge can be cause for return. In this case I feel the line remains identifiable.

I found no conflict

Drusticc inigena Eddarrnonn (Dromond) at 2017-06-22 03:58:23
Has the shield shape on the form been altered? It looks very stretched to me.

Iago ab Adam at 2017-06-22 10:14:25
Definitely looks like it has, since the lower tick marks don't touch the edge of the shield.

Correction to Device (2017-Jul-13 10:07:17): The submitter wishes to withdraw this submission.


16: Eliana Darragone - New Name & New Device

Quarterly gules and argent, a bend sinister azure between a dragon passant and a closed book palewise argent.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No holding name.

The name and documentation has been changed from kingdom it was originally "Ellianna Draconia" but the documentation was not good enough. This was done with the submitter's permission.

Eliana

<Eliana Dore> female, Married 04 Feb 1597, Clungunford, Shropshire, England; Batch M03738-2 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKCQ-D99)
<Eliana Stephenson> female, Christened 15 Mar 1580, WHITGIFT, YORK, ENGLAND; Batch P00602-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRSZ-FX9)
<Eliana Bainton> female, Christened 24 Nov 1594, WHITGIFT, YORK, ENGLAND; Batch P00602-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRSZ-NQS)
<Eliana Tomlingson> female, Christened 23 Oct 1580, WHITGIFT, YORK, ENGLAND; Batch P00602-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3VL-PLX)

Darragone

<Marye Daragone> female, Christened 24 Aug 1567, SAINT MICHAEL-LE-BELFRY, YORK, YORK, ENGLAND; Died 26 Aug 1568; Batch P01102-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGFD-XTP)
<Richarde Darragone> male, Christened 13 May 1571, SAINT MICHAEL-LE-BELFRY, YORK, YORK, ENGLAND; Died 15 Jul 1572; Batch P01102-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGF8-C6F)
<Briane Darragone> married <Elizabethe Beckwithe>, 1569, York, St.Michael Le Belfrey, Yorkshire, England; Batch M01102-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJH2-JXX)

Comments from kingdom for name.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2017-06-04 23:49:55
Huh, DMNES sn. Elisanna (http://dmnes.org/name/Elisanna) has:
c823 Elisanna (nom), Latin. France.

St. Gabriel report # 502 doesn't say where they found "Draconius" but there is the medieval Diocese of Dragonara, in southeast Italy.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_Dragonara) Now, Appendix C of SENA says French and Italian language groups can be mixed, so if we can find an example of Dragonara/Draconara before 1123, we may be in luck.

I did find a book called Iter Italicum which seems to have transcripts of historic documents. Page 420-1 seems to be a document dated 1081 with (https://archive.org/stream/iteritalicum00pflu#page/420/mode/2up/search/Draconara)

...Leo, Draconariensis espicopus... (p. 420 line 13)
...Acta in civitate Draconara... (p. 421, last line)

Would that be enough for Elisanna de Draconara, and would that be closer to what the submitter wants?

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-05 02:18:47
It's always perilous to derive vernacular names from Latin text.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2017-06-05 04:29:56
I didn't think I was trying to derive a vernacular form from Latin. :)

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-05 15:36:08
I admit I don't know whether <de> works that way in Latin.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2017-06-05 18:29:01
Appendix A's got your back:

"Latinized

Latinized names are not a single thing; they must follow the rules of the naming pool from which they are taken....

Locatives can use the preposition de 'of/from,' despite the fact that such usage was not proper in classical Latin. In this case, the locative may be Latinized, but is often left in its vernacular form."

Comments from kingdom for device.

Changed the blazon from "Quarterly gules and argent, a bend sinister azure and in a bend dragon passant and a closed book argent." to "Quarterly gules and argent, a bend sinister azure between a dragon passant and a closed book palewise argent.".

No conflict found


17: Elswyth Goodfellow - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Lochac LoI of November 30, 2016 as submitted.

Vert, on an oak tree eradicated Or a brown coney couchant proper, a bordure engrailed Or

Notes from the return of device in LOAR February 2017

Elswyth Goodfellow. Device. Vert, on an oak tree eradicated Or, a brown coney couchant proper.
This device is returned for conflict with the badge of Huette Aliza von und zu Ährens und Mechthildberg: Vert, a tree blasted throughout Or. There is no difference for blasted vs leaved, or eradicated vs not, or for throughout vs not. The only DC is for the addition of the rabbit.

Comments from kingdom

Blazon changed from "Vert, on an oak tree eradicated, a brown coney couchant proper and a bordure engrailed Or." to "Vert, on an oak tree eradicated Or a brown coney couchant proper, a bordure engrailed Or".

No conflict found


18: Emlyn Fidele - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in December of 2013, via Lochac.

Old Item: Emlyn Sadler, to be released.
Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language most important.
Culture most important.
Meaning most important.

Emlyn is grandfathered in as it was previously registered in the submitter's old registered name Emlyn Sadler.

Fidele Is a late Italian family name found on Late Period Italian Women's Names: Florence by by Juliana de Luna http://medievalscotland.org/jes/Nuns/Florence.shtml

Comments from kingdom

No conflict found

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19: ffride wlffsdotter - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2013, via Lochac.

(Fieldless) a heckle bendwise gules.

This charge appears not to be registered in the SCA. It is attested in Wappenbuch - BSB Cod.icon. 392d, dated to the first half of the 16th century.fol. 273 for "von Hechlingl". (https://bildsuche.digitale-sammlungen.de/index.html?c=viewer&l=de&bandnummer=bsb00018706&pimage=0061 5&v=100&nav=)

And in "Gemeiner loblicher Eydgnoschafft Stetten, Landen vnd Voelckeren Chronick wirdiger thaaten beschreybung" by Johannes Stumpf, p. 202, for the town arms of Hechlingen (modern-day Hägglingen) in Canton Aargau, Switzerland. (https://books.google.com.au/books?redir_esc=y&id=3WldqtQXj44C&q=Hechlingen#v=snippet&q=Hechlingen&f= false)

For comparison, see the modern version of arms: http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=H%C3%A4gglingen

The OED sv. heckle, n., glosses it as "A tool for splitting and combing out flax, hemp, etc" with the earliest citation about 1425. a1425 "Hec mataxa, hekylle."

sv. hackle, n.2, notes that the spelling is "a variant or alteration" of heckle. Hence, it seems this charge would be called a "heckle" instead of a "hackle".

Comments from kingdom

Brían dorcha ua Conaill (Ex-Rocket) at 2017-05-25 06:14:56
The MED (Middle English Dictionary) has the same quote as the earliest appearance in 1425 (MED s.v. "hekel" http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx type=byte&byte=74872217&egdisplay=open&egs=74873618)

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-05-26 22:20:19
Submitter's argument against "hackle" is unsupported--"variant or ..." establishes possible parallel usage, so either form could be accepted on the evidence--but irrelevant. The most required is establishing "heckle" as a period spelling, and the OED does show it as "16-", 16th-c. onward.

Interestingly but still irrelevantly, a third variant, "hatchel", is in use a century earlier than either of the two above, and the full etymology at "heckle" posits that it may be "a variant of" that instead of from the Dutch/Deutsch cognates.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2017-05-28 17:45:05
You might know, Gerard. I was assuming it may have been US English vs. Commonwealth English for hackle vs. heckle. But now I'm not so sure. (Certainly, that is what I was trying to head off, like how the perfectly sensible spelling "coxcomb" is in the OandA as a "cockscomb.")

Brían dorcha ua Conaill (Ex-Rocket) at 2017-05-28 18:14:40
Wiktionary says that "heckle" is the verb, "hackle" the noun. In modern usage, at least. Both derived from "hack", to chop up. The tool was first; the hairs on the back of one's neck and the activity of shouting at someone on stage both derive from that.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-05-28 21:16:09
Didn't know, ffride, but I do subscribe to the OED.

(BtW, Brian, the Wiktionary does not show "hack" as an etymon for this cluster, only as related. There's a difference.)

The OED shows those two, "heckle" and "hackle", going back to the 15th as nouns, both "heckle" and "hatchel" to the early 14th as verbs, but "hackle", v., only to 1599; "hatchel", n., is also early 14th-c. I'm not minded to put full faith in those contrasting dates; it strikes me as too easy for one or more 14th-c. cites to have been missed.

The OED assigns "heckle", v. (including the audience meaning), and "hackle", n., 4 dots each for modern frequency--matching the Wiktionary--but 3 for "hackle",v., and 2 each for the other three.

It indicates nothing whatever about Commonwealth vs. U.S. usage.

The fact that you're getting in first with an acceptable form of the word as the defining instantce, ffride, ought to make it the one registered.

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20: Gisle Akselsdatter - New Name & New Device

Per bend sinister vert and sable, an oak branch bendwise argent.

No major changes.
Culture (15th Century Danish) most important.

Gisle From the online Diplomatarium Danicum http://diplomatarium.dk/dokument/14060922001, http://diplomatarium.dk/dokument/14050110001
Gisle, daughter of Hartvig Sested, 22 September 1406, Denmark

Akselsdatter The masculine name Aksel is found in the online Diplomatarium Danicum http://diplomatarium.dk/dokument/14010609001
Aksel Jakobsen, 9 June 1401, Lunholm

The SCA Naming Construction and Pattern page at http://heraldry.sca.org/names/patterns.html documents constructed Scandinavian names using the genitive form of the father's name. Saint Gabriel's Academy report number 2723 found at http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2723+0, http://www.panix.com/%7Egabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2723+0 notes that 'the modern spelling <datter> came into use in the 15th century,'making <Akselsdatter> correct for 15th Century Danish. The documentation for Aksel shows this construction in the name Elene Buggesdatter.

Comments from Kingdom for Name

The name has been changed from "Gisla Akselsdatter" to "Gisle Akselsdatter". The documentation did not support "Gisla".

No conflicts found

Comments from kingdom for device

No conflicts found

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21: Gunther Boese - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2013, via Lochac.

Vert, a wolf's jambe inverted couped argent.

Comments from kingdom

No conflicts found. There's no other lone white inverted legs out there, and no lone legs on green.


22: Isabella Lucrezia de Zaragoza - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2016, via Lochac.

Per pale gules and sable fretty Or, in pale three reremice argent.

Comments from kingdom

Oliuier Le Floc'h at 2017-06-21 05:20:27
Consider for conflict: Morgan Alyn Alwyn Per pale gules and sable, in pale three bats displayed argent. There's a DC for the fretty on the field, but as far as I can see, that's all.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-21 08:29:37
That's a badge, Aug 1984.

Iago ab Adam at 2017-06-21 10:29:11
Technically, according to the essay on fretty in the September 1992 Cover Letter (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1992/09/cvr.html), these would be clear by SENA A.5.E.1 for adding a primary charge, as fretty on the field is considered a primary charge group.

I agree it's overwhelmingly visually similar, but I believe visual conflicts are a call for Laurel.

Oliuier Le Floc'h at 2017-06-21 18:15:57
I hope this attractive device will be rescued, but I do think that this sort of thing (charged field treatments) is why the 'field treatments don't exist' argument is flawed. To my mind the 'fretty is frets' rule should only apply to otherwise 'field-primary' arms (which I admit blurs the lines a good deal)!

Anyways, if the frets are the primary, and I agree that precedent says that this is the case, then the bats are 'overall'.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-21 18:38:20
If Morgan's bats are primary, and Isabella's fretty is primary, there is an SC between them, and no conflict. Isabella's bats are overall, and add an unnecessary DC.

Which brings us back to whether Wreath (and Laurel) will call what Maister Iago correctly states to be an overwhelming visual conflict under http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A5D. The wording there in A.5.D.2, "any significant visual difference between the designs will be enough to give the submitter the benefit of the doubt" may be sufficient to give our submitter hope.

However, if I were the one to notify her, I would probably counsel her against relying on that.

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23: Jarnskeggi the Mad - New Alternate Name

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Járnskeggi the Mad in January of 2015, via Lochac.

Amos Ironbeard

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (Care most about IronBeard as is.) most important.
Meaning (Care most about IronBeard as is.) most important.

Amos Wickenden 2nd Ed. sn . Amos
Amos, priest. 1393.

Ironbeard is the lingua anglica of jarnskegger constructed from jarn = iron and skegger = beard "Tilnavne i den islandske oldlitteratur" by Finnur Jónsson has:
http://heimskringla.no/wiki/Tilnavne:_Legemet Gives as an example of <Descriptor>+<beard>:
Árni gullskeggr mentioned in the Sturlunga saga and dates to events in the 13th c., means "gold beard".
þorleifr breiðskeggr, not 100% what the source of abbreviation is, but it's dated to 12th c. "broard-beard".
Árni rauðskeggr mentioned in the Sturlunga saga and dates to events in the 12th c., means "red beard" and can show a pattern of "iron" + "body part":
Hjalti járnauga mentioned in the Sturlunga saga and dates to events in the 13th c., means "iron-eye"
Jón Járnbúkr mentioned in the Sturlunga saga and dates to events in the 13th c., means "iron-body".
Bjorn járnsíds mentioned in Knýtlinga saga dated to the 12th c. "iron side".
The names are combined per SENA Apendix C (Russian Scandinavian)

Comments from kingdom

Gunther Boese (Rocket) at 2017-05-26 08:48:30
I can't read the website but if it checks out the reasoning seems sound and it looks like a period name.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2017-05-31 19:45:11
If someone has a copy of Geirr Bassi handy, we might be able to use entirely non-photocopy sources that don't require translating from Danish?

Drusticc inigena Eddarrnonn (Dromond) at 2017-06-22 04:41:06
Ironbeard is the lingua anglica of Járnskeggi, which is found in this form on page 12 of Geirr Bassi, constructed from "járn" = iron (GB p. 24) and "skegg" = beard (GB p. 27).

Although I suspect the Danish citations above will be needed anyway, to allow less than 300 years between the Scandinavian and Russian parts of the name.

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24: Lisebet Skinkel van Egeskow - New Name & New Device

Erminois, on a bend vert, three oak trees palewise Or.

No major changes.

The submitter is aware that this name may be considered presumptuous, but submits that the Skinkel van Egeskow family is not significant enough for its name to be protected by the SCA.

Lisebet is a dutch female name dated between 1358 and 1361, listed in "Dutch Names 1358-1361" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman)
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/dutch/earlydutch14.html - no photocopy source

Skinkel van Egeskow From the online Diplomatarium Danicum
http://diplomatarium.dk/dokument/14050110001
Ludeke Skinkel van Egeskow, 10 January 1405, Funen County Council

Comments from kingdom for name

Gunther Boese (Rocket) at 2017-05-24 22:34:56
This name seems to check out.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2017-05-25 05:32:10
It's also probably worth noting that "Skinkel van Egeskow" is recorded in a Middle Low German context. :)

Name docs check out, and Dutch/German is an acceptable mix under SENA Appendix C.

Comments from kingdom for device

Oliuier Le Floc'h at 2017-06-21 05:15:47
Nothing else with a green bend that has three trees or an erminois field. No conflicts found.

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25: Louisa Lyppard Cattone du Lac - New Name Change & New Device Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in June of 1991, via the West.

Per pale argent and sable, two unicorn's heads couped respectant counterchanged, a point pointed barry wavy gules and Or

Old Item: Louisa Lyppard de Cattone, to be released.
Old Item: Per pale argent and sable, two unicorn's heads couped respectant counterchanged, on a point pointed gules a flame proper., to be released.
Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Meaning most important.

Louisa Lyppard Cattone du Lac as a French-English name:
Louisa Emily Withers christened 1563, English Batch no. C13669-5
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKGT-8Q7

James Lyppard daughter christened 1594, England Batch No. C07100-1
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J73K-2XX

Annas Cattone married 1590, England Batch No. M10546-3
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVXS-CX4

In this case Louisa and Lyppard would be considered double given names, as there was a pattern in late period English to use surnames as personal names. As per the september 2012 LOAR cover letter http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/09/12-09cl.html#5

du Lac apears in:
"History de L'Eglise, diocèse, vile et université d'Oriéans" 1647 https://books.google.fr/books?id=szqLl_oQl_0C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false p.335 where Lancelot du Lac a govenor of Orleans is mentioned in 1504.

Ideally I would prefer Louisa Lyppard Cattone du Lac if that is possible but understand if this is not linguistically possible.

Comments from kingdom for name

ffride wlffsdotter at 2017-05-25 06:12:57
Does the submitter want "Louisa Lyppard de Cattone du Lac if that is possible"?

My understading is that the grandfather clause (which we could call upon) "does not allow the submitter to evade new style problems" as per SENA PN1B2g.

According to the May 1991 Camel (p. 12 of the PDF http://herald.lochac.sca.org/files/camel/CAMELMay1991.pdf) "de Cattone" is a locative byname taken from Black's The Surnames of Scotland (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015011274175;view=1up;seq=231) where it's a locative byname for the town of Catton, in Northumberland,

My understanding is that "de Cattone du Lac" would give us two unrelated locative bynames, which would require documentation to show it was a thing that happened in period? But "Cattone du Lac" is ambiguous enough that it's an inherited surname with a locative byname?

Notes from Kingdom for device

Blazon was corrected from "Per pale argent and sable, two unicorn's heads couped respectant counterchanged, on a point pointed barry wavy gules and Or." to "Per pale argent and sable, two unicorn's heads couped respectant counterchanged, a point pointed barry wavy gules and Or.".

Eleyne de Comnocke at 2017-05-28 04:46:12
Because this point extends a fairly long way into the field, and it is not ploye as most points are, I worry that this looks a lot like per pall, without being per pall.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-05-28 09:29:39
This is probably around the upper limit of an acceptable point pointed. So long as the point's top point doesn't approach the fess line, it seems to be fine. Cf. the registered items below. They are respectively for Briony Kortsdottir from http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=68742, Cecile de Perches from http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=31029, and Marthe Elsbeth of Oak Hill from http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=4786.

Andrew von Otelingen at 2017-06-04 03:13:16
My first impression when I saw this depiction was that "This per pall line of division is a bit low."

I would argue that the confusion of this depiction is not with per chevron line division, but rather of per pall. As such, I do not believe the normal measure is applicable.

The decision belongs to Wreath - but - I would suggest that this has inadequate visual difference from Per Pall. In my opinion the point should be significantly smaller to remove the confusion - or a per pall line of division should be used.

No Conflicts Found.

Eleyne de Comnocke at 2017-06-05 07:03:12
I went looking for the tick marks to see just how close the point got to the fess line and I can't see them. This makes me concerned that the shield shape may have been altered.

Sigrith Vigdisardaater at 2017-06-21 07:36:37
I agree. The difference is slight, but the shield is not quite the shape it should be.

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26: Louisa Lyppard Cattone du Lac - New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Gules ermined Or, a fess wavy azure fimbriated Or, overall a natural leopard rampant tail nowed Or spotted sable armed and langued argent.

Notes from kingdom

The line art picture differed from the colour and so new pictures were sought.

Iago ab Adam at 2017-05-24 14:59:34
There is a step from period practice for having a fimbriated ordinary with an overall charge, but that appears to be the only one.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-05-26 22:40:22
The "armed and langued argent" is a) undetectable at proper viewing distance but b) generally omitted from our blazons this past number of years anyway. So I urge deleting the phrase from this blazon.

Eleyne de Comnocke at 2017-06-05 06:59:33
I found no conflict.


27: Southron Gaard, Barony of - New Household Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 1999, via Caid.

Hamlet of Gildenwick

No changes.

Hamlet The desired designator for this household is "Hamlet."
OED sn. hamlet defines it as: "A group of houses or small village in the country" hence, it is a smaller group of people than a canton, shire or barony, and could be considered a valid designator.

Gildenwick The Historical Gazetteer of England's Place Names, sn. Goldenwick
Goldenwick 1614, 1649
http://placenames.org.uk/browse/mads/epns-deep-04-c-mappedname-000271 (Goldenwick.jpg)

The element "Golden" also appears as "Gilden" in placenames mentioned in the Middle English Dictionary, sv. gilden
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=byte&byte=66001457&egdisplay=open&egs=66019714
De la Gildenetune, 1278 Alicia Gildenwater, 1294, as an unmarked locative byname.
Gildenhaleford ca. 1300

The Historical Gazetteer of England's Place Names, lists sn. Gildenock
Gildenock 1620
http://placenames.org.uk/index.php/browse/mads/epns-deep-59-c-mappedname-000517 (Gildenock.jpg)

Hence it is plausible that Goldenwick could have been recorded as Gildenwick.

Hamlet of Gildenwick The name construction <Hamlet of *Name*> is documented in the "Early English Books Online database"
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo?c=eebo;c=eebo2;g=eebogroup;page=home;xc=1:

"The firste [laste] volume of the chronicles of England, Scotlande, and Irelande" by Raphael Holinshed, 1577: "... his Manour of Ferneham, with the hamlet of Cere ..." (HamletOfCere.jpg)

"The survey of London" by John Stowe, 1633 "... the Hamlet of VVapping ..." (HamletOfWapping.jpg)

Comments from kingdom

Gunther Boese (Rocket) at 2017-05-26 08:54:27
Bearing in mind the unique to Lochac situation of Hamlets, this name checks out and looks nicely period.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2017-05-26 20:14:17
A bit more supporting documentation. A Dictionary of British Place Names by A. D. Mills (2012 online edition) sn. Gilmorton notes in its etymology:
ME gilden `prosperous' or referring to gold-coloured flowers.

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#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/14-04-22_HamletOfCere.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/14-04-23_HamletOfTilbury.jpg
#5 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-06-26/14-04-25_HamletOfWapping.jpg


28: Timothy Haast - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No changes.

Timothy
FamilySearch Historical Records:
Timothy Rand, Male, 30 Nov 1596, Whittlesford, Cambridge, England, C13838-1.
Timothy ball, Male, 31 Mar 1566, Terling, Essex, England, P01505-1.
Timothy Grenewell, Male, 28 Sep 1600, St Nicholas Parish Rec. and Nonconf., Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, P00435-1

Haast
FamilySearch Historical Records:
Magdalena Haast, Female, 21 Nov 1599, Heimerdingen, Württemberg, Germany, C39171-9.
Johan Clemens Haast
, Male, 25 Nov 1632, Stuttgart, Württemberg, Germany C91613-2.

16th century German-English mixed names are permitted as per the February 2015 LOAR

Comments from kingdom

Gunther Boese (Rocket) at 2017-05-24 22:38:20
This looks like a good name.


Yours in service to Lochac

Gunther Rocket


OSCAR counts 7 New Names, 2 New Name Changes, 1 New Alternate Name, 1 New Household Name, 9 New Devices, 2 New Device Changes and 4 New Badges. These 26 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $104 for them. OSCAR counts 2 Resub Devices. These 2 items are not chargeable. There are 3 transfers, which do not require payment. There are 3 acceptances of transfers, which do not require payment. There are a total of 34 items submitted on this letter.