Avacal LoI dated 2017-05-28

Greetings from the Avacal College of Heralds. This month we have four submissions for your consideration.

1: Krescentia von Helfenstein - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound (pronounciation Kri-SHEN(t)-see-a) most important.
Culture (14th C. Germany) most important.
Spelling (Krescentia with a K) most important.

Krescentia

Kristina Walter, 28 Apr 1633,KATHOLISCH,EMPFINGEN,HOHENZOLLERN,PRUSSIA Batch #C94056-1

Cristina Von Coellen, 07 Jan 1623, Sankt Mauritius Katholisch, Koeln Stadt, Rheinland, Prussia Batch #M96957-2

Katarina In Der Pass, 16 Mar 1625, KATHOLISCH,HINSBECK,RHEINLAND,PRUSSIA Batch#C96518-1

Catarina Seisser, Jun 1638, Evangelisch, Kamen, Westfalen, Prussia Batch#M95158-1

Katharina Eberhartt, 08 Jun 1612, Evangelisch Reformierte, Bacharach, Rheinland, Prussia Batch#M99728-2

Catharina Abt, 03 Feb 1637, Sankt Kolumba Katholisch, Koeln Stadt, Rheinland, Prussia, Batch#M96885-6

This shows a pattern in grey period Prussia that they were switching "C" and "K"...

Crescentia Donner, 12 Aug 1622, Evangelisch, Steeg Bei Bacharach, Rheinland, Prussia, Batch#M96347-1

Therefore, Krescentia is plausible variant based on the above.

Von Helfenstein.

Family name in the region. http://www.manfredhiebl.de/Genealogien/Helfenstein/grafen_von_helfenstein.htm

ffride wlffsdotter provided:

"The 1578 Thurnierbuch of Georg Rüxner mentions the noble "Friderich von Helffenstein" on p. cxii

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=3LZYAAAAcAAJ&dq=vom%20Helfenstein&pg=PR112-IA1#v=onepage&q=vom% 20Helfenstein&f=false

Des heyligen Römischen Reichs Ordnungen published 1537 writes about happenings in Regensburg in 1532, and mentions on page CXC:

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=eBJfAAAAcAAJ&dq=%22Helffensteyn%22&pg=PR190#v=onepage&q=%22Helf fensteyn%22&f=false

Ulrich Graff zu Helffensteyn

and

Ulrichs Graffen zu Helffensteyn (ie. his lady, the countess)

Assuming that this isn't a presumptive byname, a 16th century form of the name could be von Helffenstein" or von Helffensteyn."

We questioned if the name had issues with presumption as per PN.4.B.2.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire provided:

"The images below are from Quellen und Forschungen zur Reformationsgeschichte Volume 16; Volume 54 [huh?] Vermittlungsverlag von M. Heinsius Nachf., 1988 (Google Books, of course), p. 116. The first records the elevation of one Veit <von Helfenstein> to the rank of Bürger on 5 November 1544 at Straßburg. The second is the footnotes to the relevant paragraph.

I think anyone admitted to the Bürgertum must be considered a commoner--part of an elite class, but not nobility."

We leave it up to Pelican to decide.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1043/2017-05-16/05-30-41_Von#1.png
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1043/2017-05-16/05-30-41_von#2.png


2: Montengarde, Barony of - New Order Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 1980, via the West.

Horn of Saint Ferdinand, Order of the

No major changes.

Horn MED - (c1390) Chaucer CT.NP.(Manly-Rickert) B.4589: Of bras they broghten bemes, and of box, Of horn, of boon, in whiche they blewe and powped.

St. Ferdinand III of Castile. http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=183

Follows construction of Saint + Other

Medieval Secular Order Names. http://heraldry.sca.org/names/order/new

(Saint)+(Other).

Questions came up in commentary on whether or not the construction had to be saint names + Possessive "s" + object. This would make the order name Saint Ferdinands horn which the barony will accept if required.

Ursula Georges (Palimpsest) indicated that there should not be an issue with the submitted name because:

"Comitiva sancti Georgii de la gartiere", which is Latin + French "Company of Saint George of the garter". Certainly "of Saint Ferdinand" makes sense as a Lingua Anglica version of a Latin reference to the saint."

We leave it up to Pelican to decide if the submitted construction is ok.

Permission letter is in the packet.


3: Severin von Helfenstein - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Culture (14th C. Germany) most important.

Severin.

Severin Sawren, 14 Mar 1637, Evangelisch, Berleburg Stadt, Westfalen, Prussia, Batch #M98048-1

Severin Schreiners 05 Dec 1579 in EVANGELISCH, KASTELLAUN, RHEINLAND, PRUSSIA with a batch number J98998-1

Von Helfenstein.

Family name in the region. http://www.manfredhiebl.de/Genealogien/Helfenstein/grafen_von_helfenstein.htm

ffride wlffsdotter provided:

"The 1578 Thurnierbuch of Georg Rüxner mentions the noble "Friderich von Helffenstein" on p. cxii

(https://books.google.com.au/books?id=3LZYAAAAcAAJ&dq=vom%20Helfenstein&pg=PR112-IA1#v=onepage&q=vom% 20Helfenstein&f=false)

Des heyligen Römischen Reichs Ordnungen published 1537 writes about happenings in Regensburg in 1532, and mentions on page CXC:

(https://books.google.com.au/books?id=eBJfAAAAcAAJ&dq=%22Helffensteyn%22&pg=PR190#v=onepage&q=%22Helf fensteyn%22&f=false)

Ulrich Graff zu Helffensteyn

and

Ulrichs Graffen zu Helffensteyn (ie. his lady, the countess)

Assuming that this isn't a presumptive byname, a 16th century form of the name could be von Helffenstein" or von Helffensteyn."

We questioned if the name had issues with presumption as per PN.4.B.2.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire provided:

"The images below are from Quellen und Forschungen zur Reformationsgeschichte Volume 16; Volume 54 [huh?] Vermittlungsverlag von M. Heinsius Nachf., 1988 (Google Books, of course), p. 116. The first records the elevation of one Veit <von Helfenstein> to the rank of Bürger on 5 November 1544 at Straßburg. The second is the footnotes to the relevant paragraph.

I think anyone admitted to the Bürgertum must be considered a commoner--part of an elite class, but not nobility."

We leave it up to Pelican to decide.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1043/2017-05-16/06-12-01_Von#1.png
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1043/2017-05-16/06-12-01_von#2.png


4: Svava Suanhuita - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Svava:
Column 982, E.H. Lind, Norsk-Isländska Dopnamn Ock Fingerade Namn Från Medeltiden

"Sváfa, -u. Kv. Fing. Svava, g. Svá-, Svavo Eylima d. Ed1 173 b 176 178 191..."

According to SENA PN.4.C [Claim of Powers], no one can use a name that holds claim to supernatural powers, unless a name can "be demonstrated to have been used in contexts that are not claims to magical abilities."

Although "Svava" is found as the name of a Valkyrie [The Poetic Edda], it was also found as the name of a human female, as per Precedence [Svava Þorgeirsdóttir, LoAR 12/2004, East-A]

"The given name Svava had previously been ruled unregisterable because it was found only as the name of a Valkyrie. However, the submitter has found the name used by a human character in one of the manuscripts of The Saga of King Heidrek the Wise. While a mention in a single manuscript copy (the name is not found in all manuscripts of this saga) is not great documentation, it is sufficient to give the submitter the benefit of the doubt to register this name."

Suanhuita:


Page 432, Saxo Grammaticus, The First Nine Books of the Danish History of Saxo Grammaticus

"Swanhwid, Suanhuita, d. of Hadding, xxxiv, 50, 52;"

https://books.google.ca/books?id=-bYZAAAAYAAJ&lpg=PR104&dq=Suanhuita&pg=PA432#v=onepage&q=Suanhuita& f=false

Page 126, 127, Karsten Friis-Jensen, Saxo Grammaticus: A Medieval Author Between Norse and Latin Culture

"Of his children the most interesting one is Suanhuita."

https://books.google.ca/books?id=nk0_P7ivRtAC&lpg=PA126&dq=Suanhuita&pg=PA126#v=onepage&q=Suanhuita& f=true

Also kindly provided by ffride wlffsdotter:

Lind Personbinamn col. 371 sn. svanhvít

was only used as the byname of a Valkyrie in the Edda, spelled as Hlaðgvþr svanhvit.

So, I'm not sure that Suanhuita/Swanwhite is a registerable byname, since it was only used by a Valkyrie. Saxo's Suanhuita is a legendary woman's given name. Since we lack a comparable pattern in Old Norse of human people being nicknamed <animal+colour> or <colour+animal> I suspect Svava might have to go for the double byname route.

To that end, col. 371 sn. svanr has:

Geiraðr svanr

It's taken from Karlamagnús saga (so, a 13th century Norse translation of French epic poetry!) but given that there are other examples of people named after animals out there, it should fit into a pre-existing pattern.

Given the interchangeability of u and v in manuscripts (and I'll make a new comment with examples), I can't see why suanr wouldn't also work.

(For the page from Lind Personbinamn, see: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1. $ b468098;seq=200)

Lind col. 165 sn. Hvíti has multiple examples of men using the weak adjectival form of the name, both with and without the definite article "inn," so the expected feminine form would be normalised to hvíta. A plausible manuscript spelling could be huita.

(https://hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1. $ b468098?urlappend=%3Bseq=97)

(http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/09/15-09lar.html#237)

"... double bynames are allowed in Old Norse as long as both can reasonably describe the same person..."

So, for switching between u's and v's in manuscripts, there is:

Lind col. 165 sn. Hvíti

Barðr huiti

Eystein hviti

col. 48 sn. Búkr ("body, trunk")

Vlfr bukr, Diplomatarium Norvegicum, 1347

Havardhvr bvkvr, Diplomatarium Norvegicum, 1345

col. 45 sn. Brúsi. (a buck, or male goat or deer)

Ion brvsa, Diplomatarium Norvegicum, 1490

Gulegh bruse, Diplomatarium Norvegicum, 1511.


Avacal College of Heralds


OSCAR counts 3 New Names and 1 New Order Name. These 4 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $16 for them. There are a total of 4 items submitted on this letter.