Outlands LoI dated 2017-04-30

From the Office of Rampart Herald

THL Khalidah bint Yahya'a (Nicole Riviezzo)


Unto the Sovereigns and members of the College of Arms of the Society, does Khalidah bint Yahya'a, Rampart Herald send her greetings.

What follows is the April 2017 Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of the Outlands.

I would like to thank Green Anchor & The NE Calontir Commenting Group, Michael Gerard Curtememoire, Sea Stag, and all of the heralds who were kind enough to contribute to internal commentary on OSCAR.

It is my intent to register this April the following items from the Outlands' College of Heralds.

1: Iohn of Mar - New Name & New Device

Per bend argent and gules, a griffin and a chief sable

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for late 13th c. Scottish.
Sound most important.
Language (13-14th century Scottish) most important.
Culture (13-14th century Scottish) most important.

Iohn: https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/symonFreser/scottish14/scottish14_given.html

of Mar: https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/symonFreser/scottish14/scottish14_given.html

Device was conflicted check on the ILoI by Sea Stag, Iago ab Adam, Aarquelle, Katelin de Irlande. and Green Anchor. No conflicts found.

2: Isabeau de Bernac - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2014, via the Outlands.

Per bend sinister vert and purpure four horseshoes in cross within an orle of feathers argent

The previous submission, Per bend sinister vert and purpure, a bend sinister counter-embowed between four horseshoes in cross and a feather argent, was returned on the June 2016 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2016-05-lop/1606-lor.html) with the following: {Returned for the same reason as the previous submission, Per bend sinister vert and purpure, four horseshoes inverted in cross and a feather bendwise sinister argent, on the September 2014 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/09/14-09lar.html#Outlands_returns17) with the following: This device is returned for violating SENA A3D2c, Unity of Posture and Orientation, which states "A charge group in which postures for different charges must be blazoned individually will not be allowed without period examples of that combination of postures." The charges here are not in a unified arrangement, as the horseshoes in cross must be blazoned separately from the feather in order to adequately describe their positioning. The addition of the bend does not resolve the unity of posture with the horseshoes and the feather.}

Original submitted emblazon had the feathers as co-primary in size, http://oscar.sca.org/emblazons/Outlands/2017-04/isabeau-c.jpg, so the submitting herald submitted a new emblazon to Kingdom with properly sized feathers to make the intended orle.

3: Karen of Golden Oak - New Name

KAREN - Her actual name - shown on a redacted copy of her Colorado Driver License

GOLD - http://domesday.pase.ac.uk/Domesday?p=6&filterString=Gold

-- a man's name as 'GOLD' and 'GOLDA', also part of many other names found in the PASE Domesday book from 1066 A.D.

GOLDEN - http://domesday.pase.ac.uk/Domesday?op=6&filterString=Golden -- a portion of a name as found in the PASE Domesday book from 1066 A.D.

OAK - http://domesday.pase.ac.uk/Domesday?op=6&filterString=Oak - a last name shown to be used as parts of last names as found in the PASE Domesday book from 1066 A.D.

Additional documentation provided by ffride wlffsdotter:

"Comparison of Inn/Shop/House names found London 1473-1600 with those found in the ten shires surrounding London in 1636" (http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~grm/signs-1485-1636.html) has between 1485 and 1600:

Sign of the...

Golden Anchor

Golden Bible

Golden Cross

Golden Cup

Golden Tun

and English Sign Names by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/inn/#OtherItems) has:

[Le] Garland


So, given that an "Oak" is a heraldic charge, and there are examples of inn-names that mention both golden charges, and plants, that might be enough to get "of the Golden Oak."

If we stick with English, that allows us to document the given name as:

Karen, female, buried 1611, Kent, England. Batch no. B05083-6 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZ85-QN5)

4: Martine de La Rochelle - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Outlands LoI of November 29, 2016 as submitted.

Azure, three dragonflies within an orle argent

Originally submitted emblazon, http://oscar.sca.org/emblazons/Outlands/2017-04/martine-c.jpg, the submitter submitted the new art with larger dragonflies at Kingdom's request for better identifiablity.

Device conflict checked on the ILoI by Sea Stag, Green Anchor, and Jibra'il `Attar. No conflicts found.

5: Raven Midnight - New Name

No changes.

Raven: is an English given name found in R&W. s.n. - Raven as the given name <Rauen de Engelbi> dated to 1185; by precedent the u/v switch allows for the derivation of "Raven" from the 1185 entry.

Midnight: is a surname found in R&W sn. Midnight <John Midnyght> dated to 1327. As the i/y swap is well established in English, the documented spelling supports the submitted Midnight.

6: Syla Marston - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.
Sound most important.

Syla - family search.org - Syla Brendon, f, 02 Sep 1612, Saint Budeaux, Devon, England. Batch #C05264-1. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5ZD-Y5L

Marston - "Names from 15th Century York" by Karen Larsdatter; http://heraldry.sca.org/names/york15

7: Torin of Norwood - Resub Household Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 1989, via the West.

Norwolfes Hus

No major changes.

Norwolf: The PACE database (http://pase.ac.uk/jsp/index.jsp) contains three given names using the prototheme "Nor-": "Norbert", "Norgaud", and "Norman". They appear to be standard Anglo-Saxon dithematic names; both "-bert" and "-man" are fairly common deuterothemes, and while "-gaud" is unusual "Norgaud" is not the only name containing it that appears. The dates are the middle and late 10th century and the late 11th century.

PACE also lists a few dozen names using the very common deuterotheme "-wulf", which occasionally appears in the variant spelling "-wolf". (The name of the individual identified in the database as Æthelwulf 1 was recorded as "Athelwolf" and "Æthelwolf" in the 9th century and that of Oswulf 16 as "Oswolf" in the middle of the 10th century, for example. Other recorded forms using "-olf" further support the appropriateness of the vowel swap, as for instance when Eardwulf 28 was recorded as "EADVVOLF" sometime between the late 8th and middle 9th century and when Ordwulf 7 was recorded as "Ordolf" in the Domesday Book.)

On that basis, I would submit that "Norwolf" is a plausible constructed Anglo-Saxon given name from the 10th century or so.

Prosopography of Anglo Saxon England: Database Home


Hus: There is precedent for the Old English "hus" as a designator (http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Designations.html#hus), hus. Shauna of Carrick Point, 2004.03

Submitted as House Gunnulf, the submitter requested an Old English designator for House. Siren found a citation from the OED for Aarones hus dated to c. 1000. We have changed this name to the equivalent for Gunnulf: Gunnulfes hus. [Birgir inn Blakki, 03/04, A-Caid]

Used with the genitive of an Old English name. "Norwolf", as constructed above, would qualify.

The previous submission (submitted jointly with Michael Vladimir Gerewolf), Hus Vanagandr was returned on the December 2015 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/12/15-12lar.html#Outlands_returns57) with the following: {Submitted as Hus Vanagandral, the name was changed in kingdom with the submitter's approval to Hus Vanagandr to match the documentation that could be found. No evidence was provided that a Norse house or household could be named after a monster and a legendary river. We also note the clear association with the mythological wolf Fenrir, who uses the appellation Vánagandr ("monster of hope river"). Without evidence to show that a household could be named after a specific mythological animal, we cannot register this household name. As documented in the Letter of Intent, the only pattern found for Hus ("house") is [person's given name in the possessive form] + Hus. In resubmission, the submitter should show that the designator is appropriate for the submission.}

Thus ends the April 2017 Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of the Outlands.

In Service,

THL Khalidah bint Yahya'a

Rampart Herald

OSCAR counts 4 New Names and 2 New Devices. These 6 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $24 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Household Name and 1 Resub Device. These 2 items are not chargeable. There are a total of 8 items submitted on this letter.