Laurel LoPaD dated 2016-10-28

To all the College of Arms and all others who may read this missive, from Andrewe Laurel, Lillia Pelican, and Brunissende Wreath, greetings.

This letter contains the issues raised in the August 2016 LoAR for CoA discussion. The text in this letter is copied verbatim from that LoAR; it is provided here for convenience. As with an October LoI, these matters are currently scheduled for the Pelican and Wreath meetings in January 2017. Original commentary, responses, and rebuttals to commentary must be entered into OSCAR no later than Saturday, December 31, 2016.

This item was on the 01-2017 LoAR

1: Eleonora Rose - New Alternate Name

OSCAR finds the name on the Lochac LoI of May 31, 2016 as submitted.

Eleanora Rose

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.

This name is identical in sound and nearly identical in appearance to her primary name, Eleonora Rose, registered elsewhere on this letter. The question was raised during the Pelican decision meeting whether we allow the registration of a name that is identical to another name by the same submitter, even taking into account that a submitter is automatically assumed to grant him or herself permission to conflict.

Admin Handbook section III.C.3 states, "The owner of any item may allow the registration of a specific submission that would otherwise conflict, as long as the new item is not identical to the registered one." Furthermore, PN3C of SENA states, "For identity conflict, any change to appearance and sound is sufficient to allow the registration of a personal name with a letter of permission to conflict. A submission identical to the registered item will not be registered even with permission to conflict."

Thus, under our current conflict standards, we require a change in both sound and appearance for a submission to be non-identical for the purposes of III.C.3 of the Admin Handbook. As this alternate name is identical in sound, we ordinarily cannot register it. However, it is not clear whether this applies to an item submitted by the same individual. Therefore, we are pending this item to allow commentary on whether the same submitter can register multiple personal or non-personal names that are considered to be identical in sound and/or appearance under SENA's conflict rules.

This was item 5 on the Lochac letter of May 31, 2016. (

Pray know that I remain,

In service,

Andrewe Bawldwyn
Laurel Principal King of Arms

OSCAR counts 1 Alternate Name. There are a total of 1 items submitted on this letter.