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Atenveldt LoI dated 2018-02-20


Letter of Intent

20 February 2018


Unto Juliana Laurel; Alys Pelican; Cormac Wreath; and the commenting Members of the College of Arms,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

The Atenveldt College of Heralds requests the consideration and registration of the following names and armory with the College of Arms.

Unless specifically stated, the client will accept any spelling and grammar corrections; all assistance is appreciated.

1: Áine inghean Uí Ó Raghallaigh - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Language (Irish Gaelic) most important.
Culture (Celtic) most important.
Spelling most important.

Áine is a Middle Irish Gaelic and Early Modern Irish Gaelic female given name, dated 1169 through 1468 ("Index of Names in Irish Annals: Áine," Mari Elspeth nic Bryan,

Raghallaigh is found in "16th & 17th Century Anglicized Irish Surnames from Woulfe," Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada, p. 628 with the Gaelic header Ó Raghailligh, and Ó Raghallaigh, This is the genitive form of Rogellach, Rogallach / Raghallach. This is the Early Modern Irish Gaelic form of the name, dated 1233 ("Index of Names in Irish Annals: Áine," Mari Elspeth nic Bryan,

inghean Uí is the standard way to form a name using an Irish clan affiliation byname for women ("Quick and Easy Gaelic Names" 3rd Edition, Sharon L. Krossa,

In internal commentary, ffride wlffsdotter reiterated the standard way to form a name using an Irish clan affilitation byname for women as set dorn by Krossa. In addition, "Index of Names in Irish Annals: Failghe," by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan has: ( Failghe mac Mhaol Mhórdha Uí Raghallaigh, died 1512. She believes (and I concur) that the name should be Áine inghean Uí Raghallaigh, without the extraneous Ó.

2: Ari Ánsson and Æsa ongull - Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name (Ari Ánsson) registered exactly as it appears in February of 2006, via Atenveldt.
OSCAR finds the name (Æsa ongull) registered exactly as it appears in July of 2009, via Atenveldt.

Per bend sinister gules scaly and argent semy of escallops inverted gules.

The previous submission (by Ari alone), an appeal for the badge Gules scaly argent., was "returned for conflict with the device of Antonius Hasebroek: Gules scaly Or. The underlying field tincture is the same and there is only one DC for changing the tincture of the scales. At the time the current precedent on field only armory with field treatments like scaly was set in February, 2012, Laurel declined to rule on whether or not two fields of identical underlying tinctures with the same type of field treatments in different tinctures are clear of conflict or not. At this time we are ruling that, if two field primary pieces of armory share the same field treatment and an identical underlying tincture, the fields do not differ by a substantial change of tincture and, absent an additional change (e.g., for the presence of a peripheral charge) will conflict."

I think the blazon might require some enhancement, Per bend sinister gules scaly argent, and argent, semy of escallops inverted gules., to assure that the scales won't have escallops upon them.

3: Emelyn Fraser - Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in April of 2014, via Atenveldt.

Argent, a bat-winged man-tyger sejant erect within a bordure embattled sable.

This badge should be associated with the client's household, Stonegard Keep. The household name was registered September 2015.

The previous submission, (Fieldless) A bat-winged lion with a human head sejant erect sable face argent., was returned for conflict with the badge of Lijsbet vande Visschereye: Per pale Or and argent, a winged lion rampant guardant sable. "There is one DC for fieldlessness but no DC for the type of wings, no DC between the postures and no difference granted for changing the head. Although there would be a DC between a winged lion and a sphinx, it relies on the fact that both are period charges. The charge here is not a sphinx but a bat-winged lion: it lacks both breasts and bird wings."

The man-tyger is a monster with a leonine body and a human head; the Pictorial Dictionary notes that "sometimes the feet have been replaced by human hands.", which is not the case here. The client has chosen to use the man-tyger so as not to have to use the scorpion tail that is associated with a manticore; they are both collected under "Monster--Manticore" in the Ordinary. These monsters appear to be distinct from other feline-like monsters.

4: Eugene Haraldson - Resub Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Per pale sable and argent, a sun eclipsed between in bend two broad-arrows counterchanged.

The name was registered November 2017.

The previous submission, Per pale sable and argent, a sun eclipsed between in bend two broad-arrows, that in base inverted, counterchanged., was returned by Laurel November 2017 "for violation of SENA A3D2c, which requires that charges in the same group be in a unified orientation. The two broad-arrows in this submission are placed in bend, with one upright and the other inverted. These orientations must be blazoned individually, rather than being in an identical orientation (either upright or inverted) or a complementary orientation (points to center/outward). If evidence could be found of such a design in period, it could of course be registered."

The client has chosen to place the broad-arrows in the same orientation.

5: Lilias Mar - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Atenveldt LoI of April 26, 2017 as submitted.

Per bend sinister azure mullety Or and vert, in sinister base a scorpion inverted bendwise sinister Or.

6: Lucius James - New Name & New Device

Or, a fist and a bordure rayonny Or.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for 16th C. England.
Language (English) most important.
Culture most important.

Lucius is found as an English male given name as Lucius Deringe, with a marriage date 22 Sep 1578 in Wolborough and Newgon Abbor, Devon, England (Batch M05188-1, Bsurname%3ADeringe~%20%2Bbirth_place%3AEngland~).

The surname James can be found with Gwilliam James' christening date of 02 Sep 1554 at St. Thomas', Newport, Hampshire, England,

The client desires a male name and is most interested in the language/culture of the name (English). He would like it authentic for 16th C. England.

There were some issues by internal commentar with the size of the shield and the depiction of the rayonny bordure; they have been dealt with.

7: Melonia Marie Popoff - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Atenveldt LoI of July 30, 2017 as submitted.

Vert, a catamount rampant gardant argent enflamed proper, a bordure ermine.

The previous submission, Vert, a catamount rampant gardant argent, fimbriated with flames proper, a bordure ermine., was returned in-Kingdom July 2017 because such use of flames has been prohibited for a long time. The client has changed the flames to be enflamed in an acceptable manner.

8: Nichelle of Whitewolfe - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 1973, via Atenveldt.

Sable, a demi-panther argent spotted sable and incensed gules, maintaining a cross formy argent.

Although the flames are gules, there are similar examples of registered armory, in which incensing deals with color on color or metal on metal:

Nikea of Istanbul (device registered September 2014): Potent, a panther rampant guardant Or incensed gules and spotted of diverse tinctures. (This is likely a moot point, with the use of a neutral field.)

Alexandra de Louvain (device registered December 2013): Gules billety Or, a Continental panther rampant argent incensed sable.

Stephen Locksley (device registered 2006): Vert, a Continental panther rampant to sinister argent incensed gules between two pallets engrailed argent.

Andrew de Londres (device registered October 2004): Vert, a sword Or hilted sable between two continental panthers combattant Or incensed gules.

9: Nudd McPherson - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in December of 1989, via Caid.

Old Item: Ian Nudd MacPherson, to be retained as an alternate name.
Submitter desires a masculine name.

The current name was registered December 1989, before the College of Arms allowed English surnames permitted as given names in late period. The client registered the given name Ian at the time to comply with the rules, but his preference has always been to be known at Nudd.

George Nudd is shown with a marriage date of 1582 to Margaret Feild at Yelverton, Norfolk, England, Batch M09677-1 (

Dowgall McPherson is shown with a 16 Sep 1649 marriage date at Kenmore, Perth, Scotland, Batch M11360-2 (

ffride wlffsdotter notes in the May 2017 LoAR for the registration of Keviliock MacKinley: "Submitted as Keviliock McKinley, Mc is a scribal abbreviation for Mac. By precedent, "both Mc and M' will be expanded to Mac for registration purposes. Individuals with names expanded to Mac should of course feel free to use abbreviated forms like Mc and M' as documentary forms of their name." [September 2013 Cover Letter] We therefore have expanded the byname to MacKinley for registration." (

Upon further consultation, the client will allow the surname as MacPherson if needed to register the name change.

10: Tir Ysgithr, Barony of - New Order Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 1973, .

Order of the Ffrind of Tir Ysgithr

This submission is to be associated with Registered badge: Fieldless) A maunch Or charged with a boar
Submitter has no desire as to gender.
Language (Welsh) most important.

The name is Welsh. Ffrind is Welsh for "friend"; it is found in English Elements in Welsh, T. H. Parry-Williams, p. 125. The name for the Barony of Tir Ysgithr was registered in January 1973. If this is registered, it should be associated with the badge (Fieldless) A maunch Or charged with a boar's head couped contourny sable., registered to the Barony in August 2017.

The award is presented to individuals who support the Barony with their participation in Baronial activities but who do not live within the region of the Barony.

Coblaith Muimnech mentioned several ways to establish that a name phrase is suitable for inclusion in a registered order name via It seems that f. Branch Name Allowance: "Name phrases may be created from the registered forms of SCA branches. Only the exact registered form of the branch name may be used, in the lingua Anglica form "of Branchname". Translated forms will not be registered under this allowance." would work, since Tir Ysgithr is a registered name. However, according to SENA, the translated form is not allowed; I hope that my fears are groundless, since it is the hope by the clients that Ffrind, being Welsh, it compatible with the Welsh name of the Barony ("Land of the Tusk").

I was assisted in the preparation of the Letter of Intent by Commentary was provided by Coblaith Muimnech, ffride wlffsdotter, Lyn of Whitewolfe, Magnus von Lübeck, Michael Gerard Curtememoire and Sigrith Vigdisardaater.

Thank you to those who provide your wisdom and patience, your expertise and your willingness to share it.

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street; Tucson AZ 85716

OSCAR counts 2 New Names, 1 New Name Change, 1 New Order Name, 3 New Devices and 1 New Badge. These 8 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $32 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Device and 2 Resub Badges. These 3 items are not chargeable. There are a total of 11 items submitted on this letter.

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