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Northshield ILoI dated 2018-01-21

Greetings unto Honourable Lord Iohannes Glenfidanus, Polaris Herald, the Heralds of Northshield, and our brethren from other kingdoms. Herein please find the Northshield January Internal Letter. Comments are due by February 20, 2018.

1: Ayla von Kiel -New Name & New Device

Argent, a puffin proper on a chief sable three anchors Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Ayla is a feminine given name found in "15th-Century German Women's Names" by Brian Scott (Talan Gwynek) (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/germ15f.html)

von Kiel - SENA: Appendix A permits German locatives based on place names to use the form <von X>. The name Kyle (meaning "fjord," or "spring," possibly derived from the Anglo-Saxon kille: "a safe place for ships") was used for the settlement now known as Kiel as early as the 10th century. The city was founded in 1242, according to the "Encyclopedia Britanica" (https://www.britannica.com/place/Kiel). No information is available for when the spelling changed to Kiel.

Name Comments:

ffride wlffsdotter at 2018-01-22 00:30:32
Gerard Mercator's Holsatia ducatus [Duchy of Holstein], dated 1630 has Kyel. (Image 1).
(http://aleph.unibas.ch/F/?local_base=DSV01&con_lng=GER&func=find-b&find_code=SYS&request=001138714)

Willem Janszoon Blaeu's Dvcatvs Holsatiae Nova Tabvla, ca. 1630-1650 has Kiel: (Image 2)
(https://aleph.mzk.cz/F?func=direct&local_base=MZK03&format=999&doc_number=001060322)

Blaeu was a Dutch cartographer, so that might mean it's more appropriate to use the Dutch (identical to Low German) locative "van Kiel"? Not 100% sure, sorry!

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:12:43
Given name doc checks out. Haven't yet found support for period usage of the modern spelling of Kiel.

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-30 21:19:33
I didn't find any conflict.

Device Comments:

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-21 21:40:32
The argent puffin on the argent field is a big problem.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2018-01-23 13:13:13
Not sure how big a problem. Using a field Or, in a shade different from the beak, would certainly be safer.

We want either an "and" or a comma before the peripheral's phrase, so:

Argent, a puffin proper, on a chief sable three anchors Or

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-23 20:58:35
A penguin proper was returned with a slightly more severe contrast problem of argent on argent, Eva inghean Alaxandair [April 2015 LoAR, R-Trimaris]. The current submission is borderline and could be ruled either direction.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2018-01-24 18:00:55
That returned device is shown at https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=49546, and the registered resubmission at https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=53881. I've looked at a few registered magpies proper (the ones where those two words are together) on argent, and they all have significantly more black against the field.

Submitter should certainly be warned that her design is iffy. Again, I suggest making the field Or, w/ the beak in a visibly different Or--assuming that last is legal.

Jane Waye at 2018-01-21 21:42:03
I find no conflict, having checked single birds proper close to dexter.

As close is the default posture, the blazon reads correctly to me.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:11:21
No conflicts found.

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-30 21:38:34
I see only one possible conflict:

Alesia de Maris of Ravenstar
The following device associated with this name was registered in December of 1987 (via the East):
Argent, a raven close, on a chief sable three mullets Or.
There's one obvious DC for type of the tertiaries. There might be one for the tincture of the primary, if the puffin is considered either argent marked sable, or equally sable and argent. Or, of course, if ravens and puffins are given a DC; I can't find any ruling on that, but I'd expect it.

Nothing else of note.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2018-02-01 01:02:39
Me, I'd give an SC for type under Appendix M. Ravens are there classed as "regular-shaped", and I'd put puffins among the poultry-shaped.

The lurking problem is that according to the OED a puffin, in the sense applicable here of a small auk of genus Fratercula with a brightly coloured beak during the breeding season, is not called that until 1678, after our gray period--and neither "auk", "shearwater", or "razorbill" fares any better in that respect--so it might be arguable whether close is "a period posture for that sort of bird". But since we've registered 7 puffins or their heads between Mar 1984 and Jan 2017, I'd argue for stare decisis!

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-02-01 17:25:47
While puffins might be "poultry-shaped," I'm inclined not to think of them as such.

Clearly, that would have to be decided by someone of a "higher paygrade". ;-)

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2018-02-02 18:14:45
Who is most certainly not me.

I'm sure submitter will be informed of both difficulties.


2: Hákon jórsalafari -New Name & New Device

Per chevron gules and sable, a bear rampant erminois

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language (Danish) most important.
Culture (Danish) most important.

Hákon is a masculine given name found on p 11 of Geirr Bassi

jórsalafari is a nickname found on p 24 of Geirr Bassi

Name Comments:

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-30 21:39:57
I didn't find any conflict.

Device Comments:

Modar Neznanich (Volk) at 2018-01-22 10:08:23
The bear appears to be "in chief" to my eye. YMMV

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:13:46
No conflicts found. Agree with Volk that the bear should be more nearly centered on the field.

Iago ab Adam at 2018-01-23 10:07:24
I can't find a specific precedent about whether missing ermine spots on the black-and-white emblazon is a returnable issue or not.

On the one hand, the two emblazons should match. On the other, the spots are a part of the tincture, so one could argue that a truly uncoloured emblazon would lack them. I lean towards the former.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2018-01-23 13:15:58
It has the interesting effect of emphasizing that the minimal internal detailing, in particular the eye, is obscured by the spots.

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-30 21:45:37
I didn't find any conflict.

I agree the bear has gotten above himself. ;-)

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2018-02-01 01:03:53
Is that going to be sufficient reason for return?


3: Kersteken Arends -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2009, via Northshield.

(Fieldless) A millrind within and conjoined to a mascle purpure

Badge Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:14:00
No conflicts found.

Modar Neznanich (Volk) at 2018-01-23 12:54:11
No conflicts noted. Nice motif!

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-30 21:47:31
I didn't find any conflict.


4: Micheline Elphinstone -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 1998, via the Middle.

Azure, a rose and on a chief Or, a shepherd's hook proper

Badge Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:14:15
No conflicts found.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2018-01-23 13:27:41
We don't need the second comma. Based on previous registrations, we could perhaps get by without calling the device "wooden"--aluminum is modern and the wrought iron ones are intended to hang planters from--but I think it's safer to include the word. And this would be the defining instance of a shepherd's hook. So prefer:

Azure, a rose and on a chief Or a wooden shepherd's crook proper

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-30 21:57:03
I didn't find any conflict.

I agree this is a shepherd's crook.


5: Northshield, Kingdom of -New Heraldic Title

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2004, via Northshield.

Bonne Vouloire Herald

This title follows the motto form of heraldic titles as documented on p. 20-22 of "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance: Dictionary of Period Forms" by Julia Smith (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitles/dictionary.shtml)

The motto "Bonne Vouloire", meaning "good will", was used by Sir William Courtney on February 13, 1511. Source: "The English Tournament Imprese", by Alan R Young, AMS Press, 1988, p 47. Young's source is the British Library, MS Harl. 69, fol 4b.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/15-59-19_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/15-59-21_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/15-59-22_British_Library_Doc1.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/15-59-24_British_Library_Doc2.jpg

Heraldic Title Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:14:40
Docs check out.


6: Northshield, Kingdom of -New Heraldic Title

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2004, via Northshield.

Coeur Loyal Herald

This title follows the motto form of heraldic titles as documented on p. 20-22 of "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance: Dictionary of Period Forms" by Julia Smith (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitles/dictionary.shtml)

The motto "Coeur Loyal", meaning "loyal heart", was used by Henry VIII on February 13, 1511. Source: "The English Tournament Imprese", by Alan R Young, AMS Press, 1988, p 50. Young's source is the British Library, MS Harl. 69, fol 4b.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/15-52-16_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/15-52-18_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/15-52-20_British_Library_Doc1.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/15-52-21_British_Library_Doc3.jpg

Heraldic Title Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:15:00
Docs check out.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-02-07 22:10:12
Possible conflict with Coeur Loyal, L'Ordre du. This order name was registered to Southron Gaard, Barony of in February of 2002 (via Caid).

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2018-02-07 23:37:25
The substantive element <Coeur Loyal> is identical. http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#NPN3E does not allow permission to conflict unless there is some difference, and even then not "when one item is an order or award and the other is a heraldic title".


7: Northshield, Kingdom of -New Heraldic Title

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2004, via Northshield.

Concordia Herald

This title follows the motto form of heraldic titles as documented on p. 20-22 of "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance: Dictionary of Period Forms" by Julia Smith (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitles/dictionary.shtml)

The motto "Concordia", meaning "harmony", is Emblem #39 in "Alciato's Book of Emblems" from 1531. (https://www.mun.ca/alciato/039.html)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-03-22_Concordia_Doc1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-03-23_Concordia_Doc2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-03-25_Concordia_Doc3.jpg

Heraldic Title Comments:

Katerinka Lvovicha at 2018-01-21 18:53:05
Potential conflict with the Barony of Concordia of the Snows. I think that "of the Snows" would technically clear it, but the barony is often just referred to as Concordia.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-21 21:48:35
The registered name is Barony of Concordia of the Snows. These do not conflict.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:15:20
Docs check out.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-02-07 22:05:16
Middle English Dictionary s.n. concord(e (n.)
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=id&id=MED8831
[ OF , & L concordia.]
1. (a) A state of mutual friendship or affection; harmony, amity;
3. (a) Unanimity, harmony; (b) reconciliation; (c) an agreement or accord; (d)?harmony of instruments.
(d) a1450(c1410) Lovel. Merlin (Corp-C 80) 21390: Tymbres, Symbelis..Symphanes, concordis, Conclaues, god wote.


8: Northshield, Kingdom of -New Heraldic Title

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2004, via Northshield.

Crescetis Herald

This title follows the motto form of heraldic titles as documented on p. 20-22 of "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance: Dictionary of Period Forms" by Julia Smith (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitles/dictionary.shtml)

The motto "Crescetis", meaning "you will grow", was used by Henry Helmes in 1595. Source: "The English Tournament Imprese", by Alan R Young, AMS Press, 1988, p 52. Young's source is the Quarto MS Hass 68 in Kassel Landesbibliothek und Murhardsche Bibliothek, fol. 135a

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-06-14_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-06-16_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-06-18_Hass_Doc1.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-06-20_Hass_Doc2.jpg

Heraldic Title Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 19:04:59
Docs check out.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-02-07 22:01:13
Middle English Dictionary s.n. crescence (n.)
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=id&id=MED10279
[Cp. L crēscentia]
Increase.


9: Northshield, Kingdom of -New Heraldic Title

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2004, via Northshield.

Elevando Herald

This title follows the motto form of heraldic titles as documented on p. 20-22 of "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance: Dictionary of Period Forms" by Julia Smith (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitles/dictionary.shtml)

The motto "Elevando", meaning "by raising", is not associated with a specific person or date. Source: "The English Tournament Imprese", by Alan R Young, AMS Press, 1988, p 60. Young's source is the Quarto MS Hass 68 in Kassel Landesbibliothek und Murhardsche Bibliothek, fol. 133a

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-07-33_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-07-35_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-07-36_Hass_Doc1.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-07-39_Hass_Doc3.jpg

Heraldic Title Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:15:33
Docs check out.


10: Northshield, Kingdom of -New Heraldic Title

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2004, via Northshield.

Esperanza Herald

This title follows the motto form of heraldic titles as documented on p. 20-22 of "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance: Dictionary of Period Forms" by Julia Smith (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitles/dictionary.shtml)

The motto "Elevando", meaning "hope", is not associated with a specific person or date. Source: "The English Tournament Imprese", by Alan R Young, AMS Press, 1988, p 60. Young's source is the Quarto MS Hass 68 in Kassel Landesbibliothek und Murhardsche Bibliothek, fol. 126b

Correction to Heraldic Title (2018-Jan-22 18:01:46): Please note that Elevando in the documentation summary is an error. It should be replaced with Esperanza.

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#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-08-45_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-08-47_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-08-49_Hass_Doc1.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-08-50_Hass_Doc3.jpg

Heraldic Title Comments:

ffride wlffsdotter at 2018-01-22 00:06:51
I think there may be a copy-paste error here -- the title is Esperanza and the documentation is for Elevando.

Mira Fastova (Keythong) at 2018-01-22 16:28:35
If you check again, you will see that both are on the same page. :-)

ffride wlffsdotter at 2018-01-22 16:39:59
Not the attached images, the documentation summary. I mis-typed. :)

Mira Fastova (Keythong) at 2018-01-22 17:39:11
Oops! So it is. I will get a correction up.

Mira Fastova (Keythong) at 2018-01-22 18:13:36
Correction is up.

ffride wlffsdotter at 2018-01-22 20:05:38
Thank-you Mira Keythong.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:16:01
Docs check out.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-02-07 21:53:47
Middle English Dictionary esperaunce (n.) http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=id&id=MED14489
(a) Hope, confidence, trust; (b) esperaunce pursevaunt, a heraldic officer attached to the Percies (whose battle-cry was esperaunce).
(b) a1600(1472) Rec.Bluemantle (Add 6113) 284: Herrauld to the Kinge of Scottes, Blewmantell Poursevunte, Esperance purcevunte to the erle of Northumberlande.


11: Northshield, Kingdom of -New Heraldic Title

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2004, via Northshield.

Tempestas Herald

This title follows the motto form of heraldic titles as documented on p. 20-22 of "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance: Dictionary of Period Forms" by Julia Smith (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitles/dictionary.shtml)

The motto "Tempestas", meaning "period or time (or a storm)", was used by the Earl of Arundel on June 6, 1610. Source: "The English Tournament Imprese", by Alan R Young, AMS Press, 1988, p 131. Young's source is the Quarto MS Hass 68 in Kassel Landesbibliothek und Murhardsche Bibliothek, fol. 141a

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#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-09-55_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-09-57_English_Tournament_Imprese_Doc2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-09-58_Hass_Doc1.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1123/2018-01-21/16-10-00_Hass_Doc4.jpg

Heraldic Title Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:16:29
Docs check out.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-02-07 21:48:29
This should just clear Tempest, Order of the. This order name was registered to Windmasters' Hill, Barony of in April of 1990 (via Atlantia).

Middle English Dictionary s.n. tempest (n.)
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=id&id=MED44725
[OF tempest, tempes & tempeste & L tempestas.]
c1350 MPPsalter (Add 17376) 10.7: Þe gost [WBible(1): spiritis; WBible(2): spirit] of tempestes ys partener of her wyckednesse.


12: Pedro de Benavides -New Name & New Device

Azure, three breadloaves Or and on a chief argent a yoke gules

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Pedro is a masculine Spanish given name dated to 1495 found in DMES as follows:

Pedro m. (n/a) ● Spanish. Blesa, Aragon, Spain . 1495. montalvo (http://dmnes.org/cite/Pedro/1495/montalvo)

de Benavides is a Spanish surname dated to 1495 found in "Spanish Names from Jaén, 1495" by Sara L. Uckelman (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/spanish/jaen1495.html)

Name Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:16:40
Docs check out.

Device Comments:

Jane Waye at 2018-01-21 21:48:49
I find no conflict. The blazon reads accurately.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:16:53
No conflicts found.

Beatrice Domenici della Campana at 2018-01-22 15:32:45
The color and black and white emblazons are not identical, which is often cause for administrative return.

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-22 17:03:35
Usually, they only do that when the difference is blazonable. However, in this case, where neither of the tertiaries is readily identifiable, it might get the ol' Admin Return.

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-22 17:06:06
This doesn't look anything like any yoke I've ever seen. Check out the PicDic:
http://mistholme.com/?s=yoke

Frankly, I couldn't identify it, without the blazon, as anything other than a badly drawn bow--and that's only the color version. The black&white version looks like nothing I've ever seen.

Mira Fastova (Keythong) at 2018-01-22 17:43:35
Please remember that the purpose of commentary is not to critique the artistic skills of the submitter. :-)

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-22 18:02:29
When a charge is unrecognizable, it is not a matter of "artistic skills". SENA A.2.C.2:

For example, a lion which is drawn so badly it cannot be identified, even when considering the wide variation in depictions of lions in heraldry in period, cannot be registered...
If you think these are recognizable as yokes, fine. But, please, do not accuse me of complaining about artistic skill when I have clearly stated my belief these are unidentifiable.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-22 18:19:10
If Wreath does the critique of the artistic skills of the submitter it is called "this device must be returned for a redraw." We would like to avoid that.

Here are the two types of yoke that Mistholme has:

1: Image 1 2: Image 2

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2018-01-23 14:17:44
I believe the following examples are all post-period, although the technology is arguably medieval.

A Google image search on yoke turns up many close or identical to #1 above. On yoke german I find relevant only the first image below, from http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-german-barn-farm-tool-antique-weathered-rust-wood-yoke-24394774.htm l, somewhat like #2 above.

However, from yoke french, there are the second image, from https://anthonysfineart.com/products/french-carved-walnut-double-cattle-yoke, described as 19th-c., and the third (turned into a chandelier), from https://barn51.com/products/ox-yoke-repurposed-into-one-of-a-kind-chandelier-very-cool. Something like the French examples could very well be the source of submitter's drawing, although neither shows horizontal strings.

That arrangement is shown for a Portuguese yoke, fourth image below from http://www.me-n-youinportugal.com/index.php?blog&nid=55 (scroll down), and in several of the much simpler withers yokes at http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=q-00000-00---off-0hdl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-----ste--0- 1l--11-en-50---20-about-withers+yoke--00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-00-0utfZz-8-10&a=d&c=hdl&srp=0&srn=0 &cl=search&d=HASHe51c1b601305eaad3be351.7.3 (scroll down, and search at the Humanity Development Library 2.0 if the link fails) such as the last image below.

But even having seen these, I agree that the submission is not accurate enough to be identifiable.

1: Image 1 2: Image 2 3: Image 3 4: Image 4 5: Image 5

Mira Fastova (Keythong) at 2018-01-22 18:56:15
I appreciate your help in determining that this charge is not identifiable and will therefore need to be returned for a redraw.

Iago ab Adam at 2018-01-23 10:14:52
Although 'breadloaf' is the header name for this charge in Mistholme, majority usage is definitely 'loaf of bread'. In the last 20 years we've registered 13 'loaves of bread' and only one 'breadloaf'. While reblazoning the device of Hubert de Recoing (in May of 2012 for reasons unrelated to the loaves), we even changed the way his bread was blazoned from 'breadloaf' to 'loaf of bread'.

Reblazon: Azure, three loaves of bread Or and on a chief argent a yoke gules.


13: Sol Tizona -New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2003, via the Middle.

Argent, a sun between a chief enarched and a base azure

Old Item: Argent, a sun between a chief enarched and a base sable, to be released.

Device Comments:

Jane Waye at 2018-01-21 21:58:04
I find no conflict. A nice simple design!

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:17:17
No conflicts found.

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-30 22:08:40
I didn't find any conflict.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-02-07 18:54:13
The old device was registered in July of 2004 (via Northshield): Argent, a sun between a chief enarched and a base sable.


14: Ynes Garcia -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2005, via Atlantia.

(Fieldless) A lightning bolt fesswise gules

Badge Comments:

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-22 13:17:31
No conflicts found.

Iago ab Adam at 2018-01-23 10:16:56
The use of a lightning bolt is a step from period practice when it is not part of a thunderbolt. Fairly certain there isn't a 2nd SFPP here though.

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2018-01-30 22:11:03
I didn't find any conflict.


Thus ends the January Internal Letter for Northshield.

In service to Northshield & the College of Arms

Mistress Mira Fastova

Keythong Herald


OSCAR counts 3 Names, 7 Heraldic Titles, 3 Devices, 1 Device Change and 3 Badges. There are a total of 17 items submitted on this letter.

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