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Trimaris ILoI dated 2017-12-31

Greetings!

This is the December Internal Letter of Intent for the Kingdom of Trimaris.

Thank you for your Commentary!

In Service I Remain,

Sibeal inghean Mhurchadha

Lymphad Herald

1: Gustav Siggesson Leijonhofwud -New Alternate Name & New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2015, via Trimaris.

Yamagata Kitsutaro Masatora

Fieldless, A cherry blossom gules, seeded and encircled by a centiped Or.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for 16th Century Japanes.
Language (Japanese) most important.

Surname: Yamagata

http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/miscellany.html "Some surnames of families active prior to 1600"

Sengoku Jinmyo Jiten or Sengoku Biographical Dictionary: which is a dictionary of personages in the Sengoku Period (1467-1615). This list, in english may be viewed at:http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/SJJ-surnames.html

Turnbull, Stephen. The Samurai Sourcebook. Arms & Armor Press, 1998. Chapter I, p.91 "Yamagata Maskuge (d. 1575) was one of the veterans among the Takeda 'Twenty-Four Generals'.

Zokumyo: Kitsutaro

http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/miscellany.html: combines the first element "Kitsu" meaning 'orange' with the principal "Taro" meaning 'first son'. (this is a personal reference as the submitter is a first born son and is red-headed)

Nanori: Masatora

Throndardottir, Solveig, Acadamy of St. Gabriel. Japanes Formal Masculine Given Nmaes, 2001. Can be seen here: https//www.s-gabriel.org/names/solveig/nanori/nanorim.html

Alternate name for Uesugi Kensgin (uesugi Masatora) 1530-1578. See more information at: https://samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Uesugi_Kenshin

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2623/2017-12-31/19-49-09_Yamagata_Masatora_name_documentation_list_001.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2623/2017-12-31/19-49-10_Yamagata_Masatora_name_documentation_p1_001.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2623/2017-12-31/19-49-10_Yamagata_Masatora_name_documentation_p2_001.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2623/2017-12-31/19-49-11_Yamagata_Masatora_name_documentation_list_001.jpg

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2623/2017-12-31/19-58-51_Yamagata_Masatora_badge_documentation_p1_001.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2623/2017-12-31/19-58-52_Yamagata_Masatora_badge_documentation_p2_001.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2623/2017-12-31/19-58-53_Yamagata_Masatora_badge_documentation_p3_001.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=2623/2017-12-31/19-58-53_Badge_submission_for_Yamagata_Kitsutaro_Masatora.docx

Alternate Name Comments:

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-02 00:56:01
Yamagata- NCMJ Historical Surnames s.n. Ya
Yamagata dated to 1600.
Historical Masculine Nanori s.n. Ma
Masatora dated to 1600.

Kitsutaro has no documentation.
[August 2017 LoAR, A-Artemisia] Yuuki Tomoe. Name.
Both name elements were documented in the Letter of Intent from Anthony J. Bryant's "An Online Japanese Miscellancy: Japanese Names" (http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/names.html). We again remind heralds and submitters that, by precedent, this site is not reliable documentation because it does not contain specific dates for any of the elements and does not provide a bibliography. [Morikawa Kenji Katashige, 2/2016 LoAR, A-Antir]

Ii Katsumori at 2018-01-07 09:48:16
http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/SJJ-surnames.html

Here is the list I put together on surnames from the Sengoku Jinmyo Jiten. This was not the case when previous precedent was handed down. I agree, as the current maintainer of Sengoku Daimyo, that the original names portion still needs more work, but this page was specifically created as a useable resource. It contains the bibliographic information, and all names can be expected to fall between the periods of 1467 and 1615. If it should be better documented, please let me know so that it can be improved.

That said, Yamagata is also found in NCMJ, as noted.

"Kitsu" is found as a Tsuushou for Tachibana in NCMJ in the discussion of clan names and Tsuushou, it should be noted that the pronunciation is likely to be "Kittarou" (confirmed by an Internet search of "橘太郎"). It is not otherwise found in NCMJ.

The Tachibana were an old uji and it is reasonable to conclude that it would be used in period.

"Masa" and "Tora" can both be found in NCMJ and should be clear.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-07 14:56:40
The ruling was upheld in the August 2017 LoAR. Until Pelican reverses the ruling, the Sengoku Daimyo documentation cannot be used for SCA submissions. When the site is ready, convince Pelican that it is reliable.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2018-01-05 15:20:26
Can't open any of the urls given as documentation of the name save some that document the surname..

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-06 02:23:58
That is just as well since they are useless for documentation.

Badge Comments:

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-01 23:43:57
Suggested blazon: (Fieldless) A cherry blossom gules seeded within a centipede in annulo Or.
This is the first registration of a centipede so the charge has to be documented to period.
The centipede is mentioned in Pliny the Elder, Natural History.
Naturalis Historia. Pliny the Elder. Karl Friedrich Theodor Mayhoff. Lipsiae. Teubner. 1906. Book 9 chapter 67.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0137:book=9:chapter=67&highlight=c entipede
(43.) The scolopendra,8 which bears a strong resemblance9 to the land insect which we call a centipede

The image below is the original Latin. The work is dated to 77 A.D.

I can document the name and creature known to and is native to period Europe but don't know how you would get an image of it dated to period.

1: Image 1

Iago ab Adam at 2018-01-01 23:52:24
We seem to be missing a line emblazon.

This flower doesn't resemble any cherry blossom we've registered in the OSCAR era. They are normally drawn with notched petals (or at most rounded), not pointed ones.

Based on its size, I'd go with the centipede as primary here. We also need to indicate that it and the flower are conjoined. I would expect such a blazon to default to having the bug's head to chief, so I specified the actual location as well.

Reblazon: (Fieldless) Within and conjoined to a centipede in annulo head to dexter chief Or a flower gules seeded Or.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-02 00:06:30
Would that blazon make the centipede the primary charge?

Iago ab Adam at 2018-01-02 00:11:09
It's the first charge mentioned in the blazon, so that would typically indicate primary.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-02 00:37:22
The flower is in the center of the field, so it should be the primary. I thought there was a Cover letter that dealt with primary charges within another secondary change but I cannot find it.

Iago ab Adam at 2018-01-02 07:50:20
There's this (but it only explicitly specifies crescents):

We will therefore treat charges entirely within or between the horns of a crescent, conjoined or not, in a similar manner as to how we treat other paired charges as set forth in the February 2012 precedent on sustained and maintained charges: the more substantial charge is the primary or co-primary charge, and the other charge if smaller is a secondary charge or, if conjoined and less than half the visual weight of the other charge, a maintained charge. [May 2013 Cover letter].


There are also these two registered blazons for badges of Briana Etain MacKorkhill (both registered December of 2012 via Calontir) where the outer charge is clearly blazoned as primary without comment:
(Fieldless) Within and conjoined to an annulet embattled on the outer edge Or a strawberry proper.
(Fieldless) Within and conjoined to an annulet embattled on the outer edge a mullet Or.

Recent parallel non-fieldless example of Varakhii Varenko Vlkovich (September of 2017 via Ealdormere):
Azure, within a chaplet of thorns a maple leaf Or.

The emblazon (https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=76862) shows similar proportions to the emblazon being considered.

Magnus von Lübeck at 2018-01-02 08:56:09
These charges may be co-primary.

[January 2017 LoAR, R-Ansteorra] Wyldewode, Canton of. Device. Per fess embattled Or and azure, three chevronels braced vert and a savage's head couped within a laurel wreath Or.
When part of a primary charge group, a wreath and what it surrounds are co-primary charges, which means that we have a single group of three different types of charge: chevronel, head and wreath. This slot-machine heraldry is disallowed, per SENA A3D2a.

Ii Katsumori at 2018-01-07 18:56:32
I received the following from the submitter:

"While reviewing the comments, I found some questions about the charge of a centipede on my badge--and being able to document it in medieval European artwork. I've contacted another herald--but have not received a response. I have a documented european illumination from the 1590's showing a centipede for reference. This can be found at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hungarian_-_Fly,_Caterpillar,_Pear,_and_Centipede_-_Google_A rt_Project.jpg . I would greatly appreciate it if you could add this link to the comments. Thank you!"



OSCAR counts 1 Alternate Name and 1 Badge. There are a total of 2 items submitted on this letter.

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