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Laurel LoPaD dated 2017-12-18

To all the College of Arms and all others who may read this missive, from Juliana Laurel, Alys Pelican, and Cormac Wreath, greetings.

This letter contains the issues raised in the October 2017 LoAR for CoA discussion. The text in this letter is copied verbatim from that LoAR; it is provided here for convenience. As with a December LoI, these matters are currently scheduled for the Pelican and Wreath meetings in March 2018. Original commentary, responses, and rebuttals to commentary must be entered into OSCAR no later than Wednesday, February 28, 2018.

1: Aries de Spencer - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Artemisia LoI of July 30, 2017 as submitted.

Per chevron inverted enhanced sable and azure, in pale a mullet argent and a natural tiger's head cabossed Or marked sable

This registration depends on the existing registration allowance, to register this field division (which would otherwise be returned for being either unadmissably high as a per chevron inverted line or a low contrast chief triangular). This motif was registered by the submitter's grandmother, Leah de Spencer, in November 1980. This is pended for discussion of how to apply this allowance.

This submission has a step from period practice for the use of a natural tiger's head; natural tigers were not attested in period heraldry, though the tyger, a monster, was found. Commenters raised the question of whether the use of the existing registration allowance is an additional step from period practice. If so, this item would be returned for being two steps from period practice. This is pended to allow commenters to discuss whether the use of the existing registration allowance should carry a step from period practice.

This was item 1 on the Artemisia letter of July 30, 2017. (http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=77705)


2: Sneferu sa Djedi mewetif Merit - New Alternate Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2016, via Artemisia.

Aa-ef-en-moet of Artemisia

Currently, we permit registration only of Egyptian names recorded in Common Demotic script and Coptic, as these languages are compatible with the Society's time period. [Einarr inn kristni Hákonsson. Alternate name Imhotep sa Maare mewetif Ankhet, 7/2015 LoAR, A-Artemisia] However, in this case, the given name is from 879 B.C.E., from a papyrus written in Hieratic script. We received no commentary on whether Hieratic names from the Pharaonic period are or should be registerable.

SENA and past precedent are against the registration of names from Pharaonic Egypt. GP3A of SENA states:

The center of the Society is medieval and Renaissance Europe. As in the Governing Documents, period is defined as "pre-17th Century". Elements and patterns of names and heraldry found in the Middle Ages and Renaissance (in those places defined below) are allowed. We allow elements and patterns from before the Middle Ages, but require them to be from cultures that were known to medieval and Renaissance Europeans. Therefore, classical Greek and Roman names are registerable, but names from Pharaonic Egypt are not.

In addition, in the past, Pharaonic Egyptian names were disallowed because the writings of this culture were not passed into Western Europe in the same manner that classical Greek and Roman names were [Merit-ankht-Seker of Sakkara, March 1995, R-Caid].

Rather than returning this name based on these precedents, we are pending it for further commentary based on current research about the contacts between Egypt and Europe. We ask commenters to address the test set out in the registration of Imhotep sa Maare mewetif Ankhet: whether there was "significant, direct cultural exchange" between medieval and Renaissance Europe and Pharaonic (9th century B.C.E.) Egypt.

In addition, we ask commenters to address whether names recorded solely in Hieratic script should be registerable.

This was item 6 on the Artemisia letter of July 30, 2017.(http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=77708)


Pray know that I remain,

In service,

Juliana de Luna
Laurel Queen of Arms


OSCAR counts 1 Alternate Name and 1 Device. There are a total of 2 items submitted on this letter.

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