SCA Laurel Sovereign of Arms
Online System for Commentary and Response

Site News
LoIs
KLoIs
SENA
Prec
AH
Track
Sub Status

Name:

Password:

Create Account

MAIL ME my password.



SEARCH:

[ Site News | LoIs | KLoIs | SENA | Prec | AH | Track | Sub Status ]

West LoI dated 2017-11-29

Unto Mistress Emma de Featherstan, Laurel; Mistress Alys Mackyntoich, Pelican; Master Cormac Mor, Wreath; and the various members of the College of Arms, greetings from Lady Edith of Swanesdale, Matins Herald for the Kingdom of the West!

The West Kingdom presents the following submissions for registration by the SCA College of Arms:

1: Ahmad ibn Salim al-Hasib - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2008, via the West.

Sable, three armillary spheres argent.

We note a potential conflict: Sable, three roundels argent. (Alewijn van Zeebrouck, Sept. 1998, AnTir), depending on the difference granted for `roundel' to `armillary sphere' (and also wonders why this is not blazoned as `Sable, three plates').


2: Aine inghean Tuathail ui Ghallchobhair - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2012, via the West.

Per bend embattled sable and Or.


3: Annale Breylin - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the West LoI of September 26, 2017 as submitted.

Sable, an open book argent goutty de sang within a serpent in annulo vorant of its tail Or.


4: Asakura Shiro - New Name & New Device

Purpure, two tomoe in annulo within a Japanese well-frame argent.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for 14th-16th century Japanese.
Sound (none noted) most important.

Submitter cares about the sound (none noted) and the gender (female) of the name. Submitter requests Authenticity for 14-16th century Japanese.

Asakura - No Copy Source [NCMJ] Solveig Throndardottir. Name Construction in Mediaeval Japan. `Asakura' p.123 and 313 (under Historical Surnames) in the 1st edition.

Shiro - No Copy Source [NCMJ] `Shiro' p.383 (under Historical Feminine Names) in the 1st edition.

The Japanese name formation <surname + personal name> is found in [NCMJ].

Armory that includes the tomoe in combination with another charge is a SFPP.


5: Caleb Maxwell - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in April of 2011, via the West.

Per pale azure and argent, a dexter gauntlet clenched counterchanged.

Submitter's original depiction showed the gauntlet much smaller; submitter has approved the enlargment of the gauntlet.


6: Elisabeth Anne Gray - Resub Name & Resub Device

Per pale azure and gules, an owl and a domestic cat sejant, a bordure Or.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound (none noted) most important.

Submitter cares about the sound (none noted) and gender (female) of the name. Submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes.

Elisabeth - under 'Elizabeth' the spelling 'Elisabeth' d.1572 is listed from 'Names found in Oldbury-on-Hill, Glouchestershire Marriage Registers 1538-1600' by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Friedemann) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/oldbury.html]

Anne - 'Anne' from 'Late Sixteenth Century English Given Names: Women's Names listed by frequency' by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/eng16/eng16ffreq.html]

Gray - 'Gray' d.1392 from 'Brass Inscription Index' by Julian Goodwyn (mka Janell K. Lovelace) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/brasses/], under link: Index of Surnames A-H, letter G

Per SENA Appendix A, the name formation <double given + byname> is found in late period English.

Name was submitted as `Elisabeth Grey' through Drachenwald and returned on the December 2015 LoAR, which upheld the protection of Elizabeth Grey, Queen of England to Edward IV (exact quote not included, as it is lengthy). The submitter has added a name element to clear this conflict.

Correction to Name (2017-Dec-13 13:12:50): Name marked as 'no Major changes' - this is incorrect, submitter marked no boxes regarding changes, so changes are allowed on this submission. Submitter cares about Sound (none noted) and gender (female).

Originally submitted via Drachenwald and listed on the Dec. 2015 LoAR: Per bend gules and azure, a bend Or between a domestic cat dormant gardant and an owl bendwise argent. which was returned for:

violating SENA A3D2c, Unity of Posture and Orientation, which states "The charges within a charge group should be in either identical postures/orientations or an arrangement that includes posture/orientation". The charges here are not in a unified arrangement, as the orientations of the cat and of the owl must be described independently."

The submitter has changed the orientation of the two animals to the closest possible match for a winged and quadruped combination to clear the unity of posture rule violation.

Note: Because the bordure is NOT split with a line along the pale line, it does NOT give the appearance of marshaling according to the current rules.


7: Elisabeth Anne Gray - New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) A peapod fesswise per pale vert and Or.


8: Evert van Eyck de Vriese - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name on the West LoI of September 26, 2017 as submitted.

Quarterly sable and argent, a mullet of eight points, a bordure vert.


9: Gerard de Canterbury - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language (14th C England) most important.

Submitter cares about language (14th C England) and the gender of the name (male).

Gerard - `Yorkshire Given Names from 1379' by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/yorkshire.html]

de - standard locative article for Middle English (SENA Appendix A)

Canterbury - dated c. 1300 in Middle English Dictionary, SN honour (n.) "þe king þo to canterbury.. To nime vp sein tomas body & in to ssrine do; Arst he adde ileye an erþe vnssrined vifti ger."

The Middle/Early Modern English name formation <given + locative> is found in SENA Appendix A.


10: Halla in mjóva - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name on the West LoI of April 03, 2017 as submitted.

Quarterly vert and sable, a Bowen cross within an orle argent.

This is a resubmission. Original submission (Quarterly sable and vert, a Bowen cross within an orle argent) was returned on the July 2017 LoAR as withdrawn by the West Kingdom.


11: Helen Margit Droman - New Name & New Device

Per fess wavy gules and Or, a dragonfly Or and a thistle proper.

Submitter marked no boxes.

Helen - No Copy Source [Withycombe] Withycombe, E.G. Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names. 1947 edition: p. 148 "The common English form has always been Ellen, but Helen and Helena came in at the Renaissance."

Family Search: `Helen Adams' christened April 1582 in Cambridge, England, batch # K13052-2 [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5KT-HNZ]

Margit - No Copy Source [Withycombe], 1947 edition, p.96: `Margyt' 1540. `Merget' 1460.

Family Search: `Margit Skynner' christened Feb 1566 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England, batch # C03145-3 [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRPD-ZY4]

Submitter requested Dromain, but we were unable to document the spelling. We were able to document the slightly different `Droman':

Family Search: `Jane Droman' married Oct 1607 in Richmond, Surrey, England, batch # M01334-1 [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2DJ-896]

According to `Using FamilySearch Historical Records' by Domhnall na Moicheirghe and Juliana de Luna [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/familysearch.html]: "(B)atch numbers starting with B, C, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), or P are generally acceptable."

Per SENA Appendix A, the name formation <double given + byname> is found in late period English.


12: Katherine Grym - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in June of 2012, via the West.

Old Item: Elizabeth Grym, to be retained as an alternate name.
Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound (none noted) most important.

This is a new submission to change her primary name from `Elizabeth Grym' to `Katherine Grym', with `Elizabeth Grym' retained as an alternate name. The submitter cares about the sound (none noted) and gender (female) of the name.

Katherine - 'Feminine names from Devon, 1238' by Sara L. Uckelman (Aryanhwy merch Catmael) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/devonfem1238.html]

Grym - No Copy Source [Black] Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland. On p.329, sub GRIM notes one `Cuthbert Grym' as a pledge for Andro Fishar in 1488, and `Sir James Grym' as a co-notary in 1541.

The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.


13: Margaret Grym - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in June of 2012, via the West.

Old Item: Margaret Graham, to be released.

This is a new submission to change her primary name from `Margaret Graham' (registered 6/2012) to `Margaret Grym', with `Margaret Graham' released upon the new registration. The submitter checked no boxes.

Margaret - No Copy Source [R&W], Reaney, P.H. and R. M. Wilson. A Dictionary of English Surnames, p. 202, `Graham'. And in No Copy Source [Withycombe] pp. 206-207.

Grym - No Copy Source [Black] on p.329, sub GRIM notes one `Cuthbert Grym' as a pledge for Andro Fishar in 1488, and `Sir James Grym' as a co-notary in 1541.

The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.


14: Meash White - New Name

Submitter has no desire as to gender.
Sound (none noted) most important.

Submitter cares about the sound of the name (none specified) and marked that she doesn't care about gender.

Meash - Family Search: `Meash Jones' buried Apr 1616 in Siston, Gloucester, England, batch # B0841-2 [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC9F-7YM]

White - No Copy Source [R&W], `White' p.486 includes Berwaldus le White, d. 1190, and many others.

According to `Using FamilySearch Historical Records' by Domhnall na Moicheirghe and Juliana de Luna [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/familysearch.html]: "(B)atch numbers starting with B, C, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), or P are generally acceptable."

The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.


15: Músa-Valdís Roðbertsdóttir - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.

M(u')sa-Vald(i')s Ro(dt)bertsd(o')ttir

Submitter cares about the gender of the name (feminine).

Músa - No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], The Old Norse Name by Geirr Bassi Haraldsson, p. 26 s.n. `Músa' prefixed byname meaning mouse (submitter wishes to preserve this meaning)

Valdís - No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], p. 15 s.n. `Valdís'

Roðbert - No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], p. 15 s.n. Irreg genitive, believed to be `Roðberts'

`-dóttir' - No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], standard patronymic

Bassi does not give examples of patronymics formed from a name ending in "t", but the addition of the "s" followed by "-dottir" seems reasonable.

The Scandinavian name formation <given + patronymic byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Correction to Name (2017-Nov-30 12:11:08): Submitter cares about the meaning (none noted) of the name. (My apologies, I missed a box when generating this entry. -Edith)


16: Sæmundr Ulfsson - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound (Sæm) most important.
Language (Old Norse) most important.
Culture (Old Norse) most important.

S(ae)mundr Ulfsson

Submitter cares about the sound (`Sæm'), language and/or culture (Old Norse), and gender of the name (male).

Sæmundr - No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], p. 15

Ulfr - No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], p. 15

`-sson' - According to Bassi, p. 17, the patronymic from masculine names ending in a single "-r" is usually formed by dropping the "r" and adding "-sson", and "Ulfr" is NOT one of the exceptions listed.

The Scandinavian name formation <given + patronymic byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.


17: Tama Katerina Evstokh'eva - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2013, via the West.

Per pale azure and vert, a clarion Or within a bordure argent.


18: Tytus the Wayfarer - New Name & New Device

Sable, a lion's head erased Or, a bordure Or semy of pellets.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No holding name.
Client requests authenticity for language and/or culture: English.
Meaning (He wants to keep `the Wayfarer') most important.

Submitter cares about the meaning ("I want to keep `the Wayfarer' ") and the gender (male) of the name. Submitter requests Authenticity for language and/or culture (English) and will NOT allow the creation of a holding name.

Tytus - Linked from [http://heraldry.sca.org/names.html] under Name Article Archives: `Articles by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara Uckelman)': `A Dictionary of Tudor London Names' [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/tudorlondon.pdf] p.25 under `Titus' "Tytus Castle Baynard, 1582"

the Wayfarer - Compact Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary, volume 2, p. 3715 dated to 1440 as 'Weyferere' and 1514 as 'wayfarer'.

The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

The submitter will NOT allow the creation of a holding name.


19: Tziporah bas Baruch ben Eliezar - New Name & New Device

Argent, on a hand of Fatima vert, a snail shell contourny argent.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound ('Tz') most important.

Submitter will allow no Major changes. Submitter cares about the sound (Tz) and gender of the name (female).

Tziporah - Tziporah, Tzipporah, Zippora, Zipora, Tsipporah are all variant spelling on the same name. Tzipporah is the name of Moses' wife in Exodus. Exodus 2:21; Hebrew meaning "bird". It is a fairly common Hebrew name for women. found listed in 'Names from Hebrew Chronicles of the 10th to 13th Centuries' by Julie Stampnitzky [https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juetta/crusades.html]

bas - standard patronymic meaning "daughter of" listed in SENA Appendix A.

Baruch - means "blessing". Masculine Hebrew name from Book of Jeremiah. found listed in: `Jewish Naming Convention in Angevin England' by Eleazar ha-Levi [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/jewish.html], and in `Jewish Names in the World of Medieval Islam: Men's Names' compiled by Yehoshua ben Haim haYerushalmi (MKA Zachary Kessin), at: [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/Jewish/Cairo/cairo_men.html]

ben - standard patronymic meaning "son of" listed in SENA Appendix A.

Eliezar - listed as a given name in `Jewish Naming Convention in Angevin England', by Eleazar ha-Levi, at [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/jewish.html].

The Hebrew name formation <given + patronymic + patronymic> is found in SENA Appendix A.


20: Tziporah bas Baruch ben Eliezar - New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) On a hand of Fatima vert, a snail argent.


21: William Talemache - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2009, via Caid.

Per fess embattled sable and argent, an open book Or and an oak tree vert.

The fess line on the original submission was drawn too low, the submission was redrawn with a properly located fess line. The submitter reviewed and approved the change.


22: Yseult de Michel - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2015, via Calontir.

(Fieldless) A chevron couped per pale Or and purpure.


Standard disclaimer: This letter accurately reflects the contents of the various submission forms and accompanying documents, including consent to changes, expressed preferences, requests for authenticity, and formation of holding names. Any and all assistance will be gratefully accepted.

Respectfully submitted,

Edith of Swanesdale, Matins Herald

West Kingdom College of Heralds

matins@heralds.westkingdom.org Matins.WestKingdom@gmail.com


OSCAR counts 8 New Names, 2 New Name Changes, 9 New Devices and 5 New Badges. These 24 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $96 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Name and 2 Resub Devices. These 3 items are not chargeable. There are a total of 27 items submitted on this letter.

[ Site News | LoIs | KLoIs | SENA | Prec | AH | Track | Sub Status ]


Site Copyright © 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, Lewis Tanzos