SCA Laurel Sovereign of Arms
Online System for Commentary and Response

Site News
LoIs
KLoIs
SENA
Prec
AH
Track
Sub Status

Name:

Password:

Create Account

MAIL ME my password.



SEARCH:

[ Site News | LoIs | KLoIs | SENA | Prec | AH | Track | Sub Status ]

Ansteorra LoI dated 2017-09-05

Greetings to the Sovereigns and College of Arms!

This (late) letter contains submissions from Ansteorra ILoI issued 2017-07-06 and ended 2017-08-10, which can be found here: https://oscar.sca.org/kingdom/kingloi.php?kingdom=8&loi=4588. Unless otherwise noted, the submitter has no desire for authenticity and allows any changes.

Any and all mistakes are mine (and I blame Hurricane Harvey). My barony and region took a few feet of water, and getting this submitted slipped my mind. I'll be watching it closely to fill in any gaps I've likely left in my rush to submit.

The Kingdom of Ansteorra humbly submits for registration the following heraldic items:

1: Caedmon Cargill - New Name & New Device

Vert, on a chevron throughout between three pairs of arrows inverted in saltire Or a Latin cross sable

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Caedmon - Old English given name s.n. Cadman in Reaney and Wilson

English poet d. 680 http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Caedmon-the-first-English-poet/

The Prosopography of Anglo-Saxon database (http://pase.ac.uk/jsp/index.jsp) dates <Caedmon> to 731, citing Bede's Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum.

Cargill - legal name allowance - DL seen and attested to by Ruby Gleann Abhann [ckag], Lawton Meridies (Soran the Wayward), Habicht Herald (Calontir)

Note Submitter prefers <Caedmon>, but there was quite a bit of discussion in Kingdom regarding how legitimate the name may be. With that, the submitter would grudgingly accept the alternative <Cadmon>.


2: Caedmon Cargill - New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Per bend sinister Or and sable a cross flory sable and a dragon dormant wings upraised argent


3: Emma Katerina Wight - New Household Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2016, via Ansteorra.

House of the Golden Shrike

No major changes.
Meaning (Golden Shrike) most important.

- The name follows a well established pattern of inn names derived from a common name or heraldic charge combined with a color or adjective. "English Sign Names" by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada shows inn signs to have color and animal. http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/inn/#coloranimal

- Medieval English Dictionary lists golden (adj) 3)having the color of gold, golden, yellow, shining like gold http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/med

- Oxford Living Dictionary defines shrike as "A songbird with a strong sharply hooked bill, often impaling its prey of small birds, lizards, and insects on thorns." . Dated to the mid-16th century, perhaps related to the Old English seric "thrush" http://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/shrike

Middle English Dictionary s.n. skrī̆ke (n.)

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=id&id=MED40739

(c) a1500(?c1450) Merlin (Cmb Ff.3.11) 15: The childe fill oute of hire arme and cryde; The wemen..axed hir, 'Whi made the childe this shrike?'

note In commentary, it was noted that the OED lists <Shrike> to 1544. the above Oxford Living Dictionary entry was originally mistakenly listed as OED.


4: Eys van Lübeck - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Language (German) most important.
Culture most important.

Eys - http://heraldry.sca.org/names/germmasc.html

1351-1400beck, 1143

Lübeck - 1143 Duden Taschenbücher Geographische Namen in Deutschland

https://searchworks.stanford.edu/catalog?utf8=%E2%9C%93&search_field=search&q=von+lubeck

van

In commentary, it came up that it would be appropriate for middle and low German for the name to be <van> instead of <von> with the attached information supplied as sources. The submitter accepts this change.

The three column picture featuring "van lubike" comes from the book, Mollwo, Carl. 1894. Die ältesten lübischen Zollrollen. page 87

The single column ones come from Das alte Lübische Recht by Dr. Johann Friedrich Hach. I have one picture with the page number in its title, but throughout the text Latin de, used for English and German "of, from, pertaining to" is in the one with "Codex I" on top, while "Codex II" and other pictures show van being using in the vernacular in place of the Latin de. All of these date from mid 13th to mid 14th century.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1792/2017-09-02/23-16-06_de_used_in_the_Latin_for_vernacular_van.JPG
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1792/2017-09-02/23-16-06_lubeck_stadrecht_page_379_van_citation.JPG
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1792/2017-09-02/23-16-06_Van_for_de_usage.JPG
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1792/2017-09-02/23-16-06_van_lubike_citation.PNG


5: Francesca di Lucca - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name on the Ansteorra LoI of October 14, 2016 as submitted.

Checky azure and argent, a delf checky vert and Or

drawing changed in Kingdom with approval from submitter to make the submission more clearly a delf on a field instead of a field with a bordure.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1792/2017-08-14/16-08-07_Francesca_diLucca_badge_color.png


6: Gabriel of Maccuswell - New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2001, via the East.

Per bend sinister argent and sable, a winged trumpet counterchanged all within a bordure vert

Old Item: Per bend sinister argent and sable, a winged trumpet counterchanged all within a bordure embattled vert, to be retained as a badge.

"Per bend sinister argent and sable, a winged trumpet counterchanged all within a bordure embattled vert" was registered by the submitter on the 06-2006 LoAR, and submitter would like to retain this as a badge.

Previous submission: "http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=539"


7: Jakob Bechstein - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language most important.
Culture (14th century German) most important.

Jakob - Bahlow p 248 (or p260 in Adelaide's edition)

Jakob is dated to 1581 in Medieval German Given Names from Silesia by Talan Gwynek. http://heraldry.sca.org/names/bahlow_v.htm

Bechstein - Bahlow p 33 (or p57)

Dictionary of German Names by Hans Bahlow, second edition

Bahlow, Hans. Deutschland Geographiche Namenwelt is a no photocopy book

Anna Maria Bechstein born 03 Jul 1580, christened at SCHWAEBISCH HALL, JAGSTKREIS, WUE. Batch C92335-1.

In commentary it was noted that the page numbers weren't matching up with an available editio of Bahlow, and Maridonna presented citations for each element (which might be better than the Bahlow doc), which have been included.


8: Lucius Hooper - New Name & New Device

Or, a bear sejant erect and on a chief sable three daggers Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language most important.
Culture most important.

Lucius - Family Search 1539 Lucius Nallson

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3ALucius~%20%2Bsurname%3A Nallson~%20%2Bbatch_number%3AP01834-1 also Lucius Preestlay 1587 https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3ALucius~%20%2Bsurname%3A preestlay~%20%2Bbatch_number%3AC00930-2

Hooper - Reaney & Wilson s.n. Hooper 1444 Ralph Hooper

https://books.google.com/books?id=5sVq7VQlNwcC&pg=PA1659&lpg=PA1659&dq=ralph+hooper+1444&source=bl&o ts=hQsQaKvFNj&sig=CPwrFWDaJbRH16R07FLV5TSJRrc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMhvCgwOHUAhXl6oMKHX_8Be8Q6AEIO DAC#v=onepage&q=ralph%20hooper%201444&f=false


9: Lykos Lakedaimonios - New Name & New Device

Per bend sinister azure and gules, on a bend sinister Or a three-headed wolf tailed of a snake rampant contourny palewise sable

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Language (Greek) most important.
Culture (Greek) most important.
Meaning (wolf) most important.

Lykos - "Classical Mythology:The Basics" https://books.google.com/books?id=rWMRDAAAQBAJ&pg=PT18&lpg=PT18&dq=lykos+in+greek+mythology&source=b l&ots=AAklT__5-2&sig=cDh1eulG5rpv_UD2iPV2n_fvHcQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjr8sOOnNrUAhUG6YMKHWA7AeoQ6A EIgQEwEg#v=onepage&q=lykos%20in%20greek%20mythology&f=false

Lykos (Λύκος) appears 328 times in volumes 1-5a of the LGPN.

Lakedaimonios - "Athenian Generals: Military Authority in the Classical Period" by Debra Hamel. https://books.google.com/books?id=bDTCbh7wmr0C&pg=PA189&dq=lakedaimonios&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwivr6O pn9rUAhWK8YMKHQtYCh8Q6AEINjAD#v=onepage&q=lakedaimonios&f=false

Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon, s.v. Λακεδαίμων (λα^κεδαίμ-ων, LSJ *lakedai/mwn)

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=*lakedai/mwn

"regul. Adj. Λακεδαιμόνιος , α, ον, of persons"

That's a scholarly source declaring that the submitted form is the expected masculine adjectival form for someone who lives in Lacedaemon, i.e., a Spartan.

note Ursula and Adelaide both offered additional documentation for name elements, which has been added above.


10: Masina da Ferrara - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2015, via Ansteorra.

Azure ermined Or, a lion of Saint Mark passant guardant maintaining beneath its forepaw an open book Or, a point pointed ployé argent

Art was updated by the submitter after commentary in Kingdom suggested elongating the ermine to make them more identifiable.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=1792/2017-09-02/22-57-02_Masina_Da_Ferrara_device_color.png


11: Matteo de Genua - New Name & New Device

Gules, two dragons combatant argent and in chief a sun in his splendor Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Language (Late period italian) most important.
Culture most important.

Matteo - found in "Milanese Notaries 1396-1635" by Maridonna Benvenuti.

https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/maridonna/milaneseNotaries/

de Genua - genua is listed in "Italia:Mercator Place Names in 1554" by Maridonna Benvenuti.

https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/drafts/mercator.html

The formation of locative bynames via use of the preposition "de" is described in "15th Century Italian Men's Names" by Brian Scott (Talan Gwynek) http://heraldry.sca.org/names/italian15m.html


12: Quiteria de Onis - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language most important.
Culture (Spanish) most important.

Quiteria - 3 examples listed. "16th Century Spanish Names" by Elsbeth Ann Roth

http://heraldry.sca.org/names/spanish/fem-given-freq.html

de Onis - 2 examples of this surname. "16th Century Spanish Names" by Elsbeth Ann Roth

http://heraldry.sca.org/names/spanish/locatives-freq.html

Previous submittal: "https://oscar.sca.org/kingdom/kingsingleitem.php?kingdom=8&id=52465"


13: Roland Ussier - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in September of 2014, via Caid.

Old Item: Ásbjorn Solveigarson, to be released.
No major changes.
Meaning most important.

Previous Name: Ásbjorn Solveigarson registered in the Kingdom of Caid

"Ásbjorn Solveigarson|201409C|N||(regid:104401)(Full form: Ásbjǫrn Sǫlveigarson)"

Roland - http://oanda.sca.org/oanda.db

Ussier - https://www.google.com/search?q=heraldry.sca.org%2Fnames%2Fparisbynames.html+(Uissier)+www.anglo-norman.net%2F+(Ussier)+Occupation&rlz=1C1CHWA_enUS667US667&oq=heraldry.sca.org%2Fnames%2Fparisbynames.html+(Uissier)+www.anglo-norman.net%2F+(Ussier)+Occupation&aqs=chrome..69i58j69i57.1550j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

and listed at http://www.anglo-norman.net/gate/index.shtml?session=SSGB20104T1501098785

R&W has a <Richard Ussier>, s.n. Usher (p.360).


14: Roric Rainerson - New Name & New Device

Gules, an elk rampant contourny and on a chief Or three valknuts sable

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound most important.

Roric - http://opendomesday.org/name/473150/roric/ Lord in 1086

Wattisfield, Blackburn, Suffolk

Academy of St. Gabriel report 2308, url http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2308+0

From the report: You asked whether <Roderick Hunter> is an appropriate name for a period Englishman…The name ultimately derives from the early Germanic common ancestor of a group of names in several Germanic languages, e.g. <Roderich> in German, <Hro/ðri/kr> and <Hrœrekr> in Old Norse, <Ro|rik> in Old Danish [2, 3, 4]... The name passed into Old French in a form something like <Roric> [5], but if it travelled to England with the Normans, it was very rare and dropped out of use very early [6, 14].

Footnote for Roric . [6] Forssner, Thorvald, _Continental-Germanic Personal Names in England in Old and Middle English Times_ (Uppsala: K.W. Appelbergs Boktryckeri, 1916), s.n. Roricus. He notes a Latinized example <Roricus> in Suffolk , but gives no date.

Rainer - http://opendomesday.org/name/407650/rainer/

R&W, s.n. Rayner, et.al. shows Richardus filius Rainer in 1148.

SENA Appendix A says that Middle English (which Appendix C seems to date to after 1100) that "Marked patronymics may use Fitz X or Xson; women may use these or use Xdaughter. These forms may all use the father's name unmodified; Xson and Xdaughter may also use the possessive form."

Hence, the submitted Rainerson should be fine.

note Both Maridonna and ffride contributed extra information for these name elements.


15: Simha bint Yusuf - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2014, via Ansteorra.

(Fieldless), within and conjoined to a crescent argent, a fox sejant contourny proper

This item was on the 08-2014 LoAR

[Ansteorra - 2014-05-31] Vert, a wolf dormant and a chief argent estencely azure

"https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=41697"

Correction to Badge (2017-Sep-04 18:09:38): This submission was not an appeal, but simply a resubmission after a Kingdom return. My apologies for forgetting to fix the tag on this one.


16: Walter Thomas Longstride - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound most important.

Walter - dated to 1273 Walter HR Wythecombe

Thomas - dated to 1170 Thomas Becket ibid, Used as unmarked patronymic.

Longstride - plausibly constructed name. R + W lists Longstreet, longstaff, and Longshanks on p 284 Rev Ed, Also in R + W lists Stride as a surname on p 431, Adam stte Stryd (1296) and Sarah Stride (1662 - 1664)

Fleshing out R&W docs a bit, Longstreet lists de Langstret, 1249. Longstaff, etc. shows Langstaf 1210, Longstaf 1210. Longshank, etc., has Longschaunk 1307, Longschankes, 1315, Langssonke 1334, "Long legs'. Stride, "OE stride `stride,pace', probably used of a place where one can stride a brook'.

"Misplaced" Names in Reaney & Wilson,Sorted By Name" byJeanne Marie Lacroix shows several other descriptive names. Langnase, 'long nose',13thc, s.n. Longenow. Longhals, [long neck], c1200, s.n. Shorthose. Longeto, 'long toe',1291-2, s.n. Longenow. Then there is Stepesoft, 'step softly', 1260, s.n. Steptoe. http://heraldry.sca.org/names/misplacednamesbyname.htm

SENS allows for name + patronymic + description byname.


In Service,

Elena

Bordure


OSCAR counts 9 New Names, 1 New Name Change, 1 New Household Name, 6 New Devices, 1 New Device Change and 3 New Badges. These 21 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $84 for them. There are a total of 21 items submitted on this letter.

[ Site News | LoIs | KLoIs | SENA | Prec | AH | Track | Sub Status ]


Site Copyright © 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, Lewis Tanzos