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Atlantia LoP dated 2017-11-01

Unto Cian Triton, Beatrice Golden Dolphin, and the Atlantian College of Heralds does Catherine Ibis send warm greetings! This letter contains the remaining submissions received at Pennsic, 2017. Commentary for this letter will close December 1, 2017.

1: Adelia Rhodes -New Name & New Device

Argent, a fret and a bordure vert

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound (a-dee-lee-ah roads) most important.

ADELIA: Found in Withycombe p. 4 s.n. Adelia - "The name was introduced into England by the Normans; it was borne by the 4th daughter of William I, who was named after her maternal grandmother, a daughter of Robert of France."

From IGI Records: Adelia Todde England Births and Christenings BATCH P00046-1, Christening Date 19 Mar 1636

From IGI Records: Elizabeth Rhodes England Deaths and Burials BATCH B05232-8, Burial Date 24 Aug 1560, Burial Place Redbourne, Lincolnshire, England


2: Ania Stal -New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Atlantia LoI of October 31, 2016 as submitted.

Per pale or and sable, a honeybee and a point pointed counterchanged.


3: Aoyama Kitsusaburou Sukehiro -New Name & New Device

Argent, three delfs palewise azure one and two conjoined at the corners, each charged with an arrow fletching argent. (do not conjoin the bottom two delfs; Japanese motif)

Submitter desires a masculine name.

NCMJ listed below is Name Construction in Midiaeval Japan (NCMJ) revised Edition by Solvveig Throndardottir

Name Pattern: Japanese, Military Class, Male: Family Name, Common Name, Nanori

Family Name: Aoyama (Blue Mountain, Family name, Constructed) Aoyama is a surname intended to mean 'blue mountain'. NCMJ (p. 182, Light and Colour) describes Aoyama as a modern surname meaning 'blue/green mountain'. However, it can be constructed from the period elements Aoki 'blue/green tree', a surname found in 1568, and -yama 'mountain'. Examples of the latter are Okuyama 'innermost mountain' and Ooyama 'big mountain', both from 1568 (ibid., pp. 145, 184, and 323).

Common Name: Kitsusaburou (Clan Kitsu, Third Son, Common Name, Constructed) Similar Example: Gensaburou from the Third Son table p 212. Kitsu (This is a prefix indicating affiliation with a clan - Common Tsuushou of Famus Clans, NCMJ p. 37) sabu (This is the entry indicating birth order: third son - Number and Quantity, Third Son, NCMJ p. 21) rou (this is the suffix to indicate child/son - Number and Quantity, Third Son, NCMJ p. 212)

Nanori: Sukehiro - Historical Masculine Nanori, NCMJ., p. 356) - Sukehiro 1332


4: Eiríkr úlfr Þorisson -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2011, via Atlantia.

(Fieldless) In pale an oak leaf argent conjoined to a Thor's hammer sable.

Correction to Badge (2017-Nov-01 21:11:42): Accidentally duplicated from the first half of Pennsic submissions. Please disregard.


5: Elizabeth MacLean -New Name & New Device

Or, a rabbit couchant purpure between three hearts gules

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.

Elizabeth is found in Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada, "Names From Old Edinburgh, 1597-1598" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/Edinburgh/#Feminine) as a feminine name with 7 instances. Also, Talan's index to Reaney and Wilson, s.n. Elizabeth dates this form in the 16th century.

MacLean is the header spelling in Black, Surnames of Scotland with a number of various spellings. Laurel ruled in March, 2012 (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/03/12-03lar.html) s.n. Rylan Maclean: While MacClean or MacClane are more common period spellings of this byname, multiple citations, including Maclein 1586 and Maclane 1545 (both from Black s.n. MacLean), make it clear that MacLean is a plausible late period spelling of the byname.

The submitter would like to keep the spelling of the last name as it matches the registered name of her real-world father, Cathal MacLean. Feel free to contact the submitter if written attestation is needed.


6: Elye haTayar -New Name & New Device

Argent, a polypus and on a chief purpure, three hands of Fatima Or.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Meaning (byname meaning traveler) most important.

Elye is a Jewish masculine given name found in Beider sn Elye, given in Hebrew as Aleph-Lamed-Iud-Hay transliterated as Elye, and dated to 1298 in South Germany, 1442 Pfalz, 1546 Prague, etc.

ha- is a Hebrew prefix meaning "the" and used as a prefix for occupational and descriptive bynames as per SENA Appendix A.

Tayar is a Hebrew byname found in "Database of Medieval Jewish Names" by Julie Stampnitzky meaning "guide, experienced traveller" (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juetta/titles.html)

Submitter will not permit dropping the "ha" element. However, adding a space between "ha" and "Tayar" is acceptable if necessary for registration.


7: Fíne illfjúka -New Name & New Device

Fíne illfjúka

No major changes.
Meaning (Byname must mean \) most important.

Old Norse Pattern "given name, descriptive byname" from Geirr Bassi

Norse-Gaelic Combination as per SENA Appenix C

Fíne (800) Irish Annals http://www.medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Fine.shtml

illfjúka (constructed) fjúkr (snow storm) is found in Geirr Bassi ill (evil/bad) is a common prototheme found in Geirr Bassi fjúkr is feminized as fjúka as per Cleasby and Vigfusson.


8: Finn Gage -New Name & New Device

Per chevron gules and sable, a chevron between five mullets in chevron and an anchor argent.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (fin GAY-ge) most important.

Finn: IGI lists a Robert Finn, Married 12 Sept 1595, England, batch B05205-4 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8RY-SQD

Gage IGI lists Richard Gage, male, Christened 20 Feb 1596, Kersey, Suffolk, England. Batch no. C06301-2 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKX3-M44)

This name uses the established late-period English naming precedent of surname-as-given-name as described in the September 2012 LoAR Cover Letter: http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/09/12-09cl.html#5

From Golden Dolphin: After consulting further with the submitter, he says he would prefer the name Phineas Gage if possible, but had been advised that this might be considered in some way presumptuous or obtrusively modern due to the medical notoriety of a post-period gentleman of that name. Accordingly, he has asked that we include a note regarding this preference, and so I am including documentation for the given name Phineas below:

From IGI records via FamilySearch:

Phineas Hodden, Male, Christened 05 Jul 1584 MYDDLE, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND. Batch no. P01576-1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JM5Y-PHJ

Phineas Fowler, Male, Christened 25 NOV 1604 GOSBERTON,LINCOLN,ENGLAND. Batch no. C02856-2 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3SL-698


9: Franceska of Stormwall -New Name & New Device

Purpure, on a pile inverted vert, fimbriated Or, a fox couchant reguardant erminois.

Submitter desires a feminine name.

The name is Italian. Franceska is a female given name found in "Feminine Given Names from Thirteenth Century Perugia," Arval Benicoeur, https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/perugia/ Stormwall is the Incipient Canton of Stormwall, Kingdom of Atlantia, reg 02/2017 LoAR


10: Grimoald dello Falco -New Name & New Device

Quarterly sable and argent, two scythes bendwise sinister reversed argent.

Grimoald is a constructed name of a person of Germanic heritage in Italy. The Dictionary of Medieval Names in European Sources s.n. Grimald dates grimoaldus to 1018 as the Latin form in Italy ( http://dmnes.org/name/Grimald ). Grimoald is a constructed vernacular form, dropping the Latin -us ending. dello Falco: This is the registered surname of the submitter's legal parents, Tancred dello Falco (July 1990, Meridies) and Christiana dello Falco (September 1993, East). A Letter documenting the relationship *should* be attached to this! The submitter will bring one of his parents to pickup in order to sign a letter attesting their relationship. PLEASE make a letter for one of them to sign!


11: Hákon of Ponte Alto -New Name & New Badge

H{a?}kon hábrók

Argent, on a pale sable in chief an apple blossom argent.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.

Correction to Name (2017-Nov-07 19:11:36): Should be listed as "change of holding name" rather than new name.


12: Heinrich von Holstein -New Name & New Device

Gules, in fess a snail shell fesswise and issuant therefrom a demi-lobster fesswise Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (Holstein please) most important.

Heinrich: given male name Heinrich at Plauen 1451 -1500 in Talan (Brian Scott) Late Period German Masculine Given Names on http://server.penheralds.net/heraldry/mirrors/heraldry.sca.org/names/germmasc.html

von German locative form

Holstein German place name in article "Holstein region, Germany" in online Britannica (by editors of the Britannica) https://www.britannica.com/place/Holstein "Holstein was created as a county of the Holy Roman Empire in 1111. It came under a personal union with the Danish king in 1459, an arrangement which caused much unrest among the German majority. In 1474 Holstein was raised to the rank of a duchy in the Holy Roman Empire" Client is willing to accept the form "Holtzeten" found in Bahlow p.231 s.v. Holst: Rabbart von Holtzeten Osn. 1367. However, his first choice is the modern spelling "Holstein" Client willing to omit "von" if necessary. The name has a problem of presumption. Heinrich von Holstein is also Count Heinrich von Holstein of Schleswig or Duke Heinrich von Holstein


13: Isabella Mea Caterina d'Angelo -New Device Change

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Isabella Mea Caterina d'Angelo in January of 2007, via Atlantia.

Argent, a fess gules semi of plates between in chief three strawberries proper and in base three lozenges vert

Old Item: Bendy sinister sable and argent, on a chief Or a pair of wings conjoined in lure gules., to be retained as a badge.

Consulting Herald: Thory Vedardottir


14: Jǫðurr of Seareach -New Name & New Device

Argent, on a pile gules between two goats combatant sable, a boar's head cabossed argent, facing dexter.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Jǫðurr - masculine given name found in Geirr Bassi, p. 12

Seareach is the registered name of an SCA branch (May 1988, via Atlantia)


15: Johannes des Ritters Volt -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2016, via Atlantia.

Or, a wyvern erect wings displayed vert and on a chief dovetailed sable three fleus-de-lys Or. Original device returned at Kingdom December 2015 for contrast issues, this is a redraw.

Submission History:

This is a resubmission after the November 2015 Kingdom Return of the previously-submitted device, Or, a legless wyvern wings displayed vert grasping with its tail a wooden Latin cross proper on a chief dovetailed sable three fleurs-de-lis Or:

"The device must be returned for rework because the brown cross has a contrast issue with the vert dragon. Brown is a color when determining contrast. The cross also cannot be considered an overall charge because overall charges must have a significant portion of the charge on the field, in this design most of the cross is on the dragon. Also when resubmitting the device, if the submitter would like a wooden cross proper, the color for a wooden cross is brown."


16: Kalara of Lochmere -New Name & New Device

Vert, a chalice Or and in chief a fish embowed argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Spelling most important.

Kalara is included in the list of Hungarian female given names here: http://heraldry.sca.org/names/magfern2.html.

Lochmere is a registered SCA branch (Barony of Lochmere, Kingdom of Atlantia). Submitter is a resident of the barony. SENA PN.1.B.2.f -- http://lochmere.atlantia.sca.org

Consulting Herald: Shannon inghaen Bhriain ui Dhuilleain


17: Laelia Sulpiciana -New Name Change & New Device Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in January of 2006, via Atlantia.

Or, a pomegranate within an orle gules

Old Item: Iohanna filia Iacobi, to be retained as an alternate name.
Old Item: Sable, on a tower within an orle argent a decrescent gules., to be retained as a badge.
Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.

The submitter will not allow changes to the given name without consultation.

Laelia is a nomen found in "A to Z of Ancient Greek and Roman Women", Revised Edition by Marjorie Lightman and Benjamin Lightman, Copyright 2008. Laelia was a speaker who lived in the 2nd - 1st century B.C.E whose father is Gaius Laelius.

Sulpicia is a nomen found in "Women's Life in Greece and Rome" by Mary R. Lefkowitz and Maureen B. Fant (http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/wlgr/wlgr-privatelife224.shtml) 224. Sulpicia. Rome, late 1st cent. A.D. (Martial, Epigrams 10.35. L) "The work of the second Roman woman poet named Sulpicia (for the first see here), who lived in the Flavian period (A.D. 69-96), is not preserved." Per Ursula, based on adoption model where second nomen (adoptive family) would be declined by -na for females; Sulpicia becomes Sulpiciana Site with abbreviations in Latin for "Supliciana" http://www.trismegistos.org/abb/abbreflist.php?combin_id=73265 Example of Sulpiciana abbreviation to "SUL" http://db.edcs.eu/epigr/edcs_id.php?s_sprache=en&p_edcs_id=EDCS-40301508 Publication: CIL 15, 01838,11 EDCS-ID: EDCS-40301508 Province: Roma Place: Roma Sul(piciana)


18: Laelia Sulpiciana -New Badge Change

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) Three annulets interlaced one and two gules

Old Item: (Fieldless) On a tower Or a cross crosslet fitchy azure. AND (Fieldless) On a tower argent, in pale three de, to be released.


19: Lughaidh Ó Murchadha -New Name & New Device

Per chevron azure and argent, two triquetras and an Irish wolfhound sejant reguardant counterchaged.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.

'Lughaidh' is found in "Index of Names in Irish Annals: Lugaid / Lughaidh" by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O'Brien) as a masculine given name. Mari indicates that this is the Early Modern Irish Gaelic nominative form. The name in its various forms is used 10 times in the Annals dated from 503 to 1337.

(https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Lugaid.shtml)

Ó - Sharon L. Krossa, "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names", under Clan Affiliation Bynames

[http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/#clanaffiliationbyname]

states: The standard way to form a name using an Irish clan affiliation byname for men is: <single given name> Ó <eponymous clan ancestor's name (in genitive case)>which means <given name> male descendant <of eponymous clan ancestor>

Murchadha - Woulfe, p. 622, s.n. Ó Murchadha, dates the Anglicized forms O Morchowe, O Morghoe and O Murphy to the times of Elizabeth I and James I of England.

Reany and Wilson, p. 317, s.n. Murchie, gives the Gaelic MacMhurchaidh as meaning "son of Murchadh" "sea-warrior".

Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, "Index of Names in Irish Annals: Murchad / Murchadh"

[http://www.medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Murchad.shtml] gives

Murchadha as one of two normalized Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c1200-c1700) genitive forms and counts 15 occurrences of the name in the years 715, 741, 887, 972, 974, 980, 1103, 1160, 1254, 1414, 1451, 1475, 1491, 1511, 1583 and 1591. The raw data gives Mac Murchadha in the year 1511.

Name Pattern given name + patronymic is attested in SENA Appendix A for Early Modern Irish Gaelic.


20: Oliver Oxen Free -New Name & New Device

Argent, three brown oxen passant proper collared and chained of a fracted chain Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound (oxenfree) most important.

OLIVER: Withycombe p. 232 s.n. Oliver, this spelling is dated 1249. "English Names found in Brass Enscriptions" by Juliean Goodwyn (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/brasses/men.html) shows Oliver in this spelling dated to 1516.

OXEN: Family Search - Mary Oxen "England Births and Christenings", Christening Date 20 Dec 1573, BLUNHAM,BEDFORD,ENGLAND Batch P00367-1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPD7-TQY

FREE: Family Search record - Joanna Free, "England Births and Christenings", Christening Date 03 Nov 1579, BALSHAM,CAMBRIDGE,ENGLAND Batch C13406-1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKV2-6BH Construction according to English pattern given+byname+byname found in SENA Appendix A


21: Philomene de Lys -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2016, via Atlantia.

Azure, a fleur de lys and on flaunches Or two rods of Aesclepius azure


22: Philomene de Lys -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2016, via Atlantia.

Fieldless, a fleur de lys Or, entwined by a serpent vert


23: Pietro Trevisan de Vettor -New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in July of 2005, via Atlantia.

Old Item: Tristan de Brailesford, to be released.
Submitter desires a masculine name.

Pietro - referenced as an example (Pietro Paolo Querini) in the "construction" segment of Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names by Arval Benicoeur (Josh Mittleman, mittle@panix.com) and Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott, scott@math.csuohio.edu) https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/venice14/

Trevisan - locative-origin family name found in "Fifteenth Century Venetian Masculine Names" by Sara L. Uckelman ( http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/venicefamalpha.html )

de Vettor - s.n. Nicolo Moresini fu de Vettor dated to 1443 found in Fifteenth Century Venetian Masculine Names: Raw Data by Sara L. Uckelman http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/veniceraw.html

Pattern according to SENA Appendix A - allows double surnames in Italian


24: Rhiannon Morgaine -New Name & New Badge

Company of the Pye

(Fieldless) A magpie rising maintaining in its claws bendwise a trident sable.

Submitter has no desire as to gender.
Meaning (magpie) most important.

This is a household name based on a heraldic charge. Company is an accepted household name designator according to SENA Appendix E. Examples of words meaning "company" combined with charges may be found in Juliana de Luna, "Medieval Secular Order Names" ( http://medievalscotland.org/jes/OrderNames/ ) Pye - a pie is a type of bird, modernly known as a magpie. The Middle English Dictionary s.v. pī(e (n.(1)) sense (e) dates the spelling Pye to 1339 in a surname.

Correction to Name (2017-Nov-07 20:11:33): Item should be listed as "New Household Name."


25: Rhiannon Morgaine -New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in March of 2010, via Atlantia.

(Fieldless) Two housecats combatant conjoined at the front paw sable


26: Sabine de Hollande -New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Sound (sa-BEEN de/of HALL-and) most important.

Sabine is a feminine given name found in FamilySearch Historical Records:

Sabine Adam, Female, Christened 11 May 1564, Ufford, Suffolk, England. Batch number P01378-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGFH-Q9Q)

de Hollande is a marked locative byname. Earlier marked forms of this byname are found in Reaney & Wilson s.n. Holland: de Holande (c975) and de Holaund (1246), with the place name Holland found in the MED from a1398. The submitted spelling is a plausible interpolated form. In addition, Hollande is found as an inherited surname in FamilySearch:

Lawrance Hollande, Male, Christened 23 Feb 1583, St Giles Cripplegate, London, England. Batch number C02243-1

Per SENA Appendix A, English/Welsh, Middle/Early Modern English: Locative Bynames are acceptable using All forms: Phrase (de X, of X, atte Y, de la/del Y).


27: Sonya Flicker -New Appeal of Kingdom Return of Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2015, via Atlantia.

Per fess vert and purpure, a fess dancetty and in base four double-pointed knitting needles fretted in saltire argent.

Submission history: Device was returned at Kingdom level in September 2016:

Unfortunately, after in-kingdom commentary and consideration we believe your device, "Per fess vert and purpure a dance and four double-pointed knitting needles in fret argent," needs further work to have the best chances for successful registration by Laurel King of Arms.

This device is being returned for rework because the charges are not in a standard period arrangement for groups with 4 or more charges. In fret is not an arrangement listed in SENA Appendix K for charge groups with 4 or more charges. To register this arrangement of four charges, it would need to be documented.

This was in turn a resubmission after the February 2015 Laurel return of "Per fess purpure and vert, a fess dancetty between three sets of four knitting needles fretted in saltire argent.":

This device is returned because the charges are not in a standard period arrangement for groups with four or more charges as listed in SENA Appendix K. To be registerable, this arrangement of twelve charges would need to be documented.

The wording of the appeal is as follows:

This return is in error. It does not cite a rule in SENA that is being violated, and it applies Appendix K in a manner contrary to what it says. Appendix K begins:

"This appendix is a tool to determine if two charge groups of different sizes with different arrangements have comparable arrangements. First, identify the number of charges in each group and their arrangement. If the arrangement of either group is not listed below, then they are not in a standard arrangement and no DC can generally be given for arrangement between the two designs."

Appendix K does not apply to Armory Style. It is a tool for assisting with certain conflict considerations.

Further, SENA A3, Armory Style, makes no reference to Appendix K, nor do any of the subsections support the text of the return.

The design is readily blazonable without contortions, and should be registered as submitted.


28: William of Nunn -New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Sable, on a pile between two oak trees Or, a cross pommety gules.


29: Wulfwyn of Black Diamond -New Name & New Device

Sable, on a bezant a bat-winged horse segreant contourny sable, in chief a wolf's head erased and a raven's head erased respectant argent.

Sound (WOLF-in or WOLF-win or similar) most important.

Wulfwyn - Anglo-Saxon Women's Names from Royal Charters, by Marieke van de Dal (Christina Krupp, ckrupp@moose.uvm.edu), 2001 by Christina Krupp; all rights reserved. Version: 11/27/01. Entry: Wulfwyn, sub-entry: Wulfwyn S-1454, 990x992; English (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/marieke/anglosaxonfem/). This spelling as well as Wulfwin are found in PASE, s.n. Wulfwynn.

Black Diamond is the registered name of an SCA branch (January 1986, Atlantia).

Submitter understands that this is a feminine name and is just fine with it. If a masculine name with the same sound can be found it would be welcome.


Yours in Service,

Catherine Ibis


OSCAR counts 17 Names, 2 Name Changes, 18 Devices, 2 Device Changes, 6 Badges and 1 Badge Change. There are a total of 46 items submitted on this letter.

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