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Lochac LoI dated 2017-07-26

Unto the Lochac Heralds, and those of the Knowne World does Lord Gunther Boese, Rocket Herald send greetings.

It is our intent to have the following registered.

1: Amelot de Akeney - New Household Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in December of 2002, via Lochac.

Salty Bint Tavern

Spelling (Retain Salty Bint) most important.

This household name was originally submitted as a personal name at kingdom but withdrawn and resubmitted as a household name at Laurel.

Salty is documented as an English byname on the Familysearch IGI website.

William Salty married 12 Dec 1588 Painswick, Gloucester, England - Batch M03621-2 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NL9R-PYG) accessed 31 May 2017.

Bint is documented as an English byname on the Familysearch IGI website.

Ellen Bint married 25 Jan 1587 West Ilsley, Berkshire, England - Batch M01975-2 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK1J-82J) accessed 31 May 2017.

Joane Bint christened 13 Nov 1585 West Ilsley, Berkshire, England - Batch C01975-2 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBMC-ZJR) accessed 31 May 2017.

Christopher Bint married 9 Oct 1589 Sparsholt, Berkshire, England - Batch M01986-2 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK1P-7ZX) accessed 31 May 2017.

Under SENA Appendix A, late period English allows bynames to be used as given names. This allows for the form <Byname as firstname> + <byname> <Salty Bint>.

<Inn> is an acceptable designator for a household name according to the following precedent: 2002.02, François la Flamme, [Inn of the Weeping Unicorn] Inn is an acceptable designator for a household name. [Kathryn atte Unicorn, 02/02, A-Ansteorra]

Tavern is found in the Middle English Dictionary (http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx?type=id&id=MED44615) accessed 12 July 2017.

Definition: An establishment that sells and serves drink and food, a tavern.

The client wishes to establish a household name for those who run the <Salty Bint Tavern>. The <Salty Bint Tavern> has been, for over 15 years, the public tavern for Lochac's major event, Rowany Festival. The Crown of Lochac awarded the <Salty Bint Tavern> with a `Pride of Lochac' which is awarded to groups, such as households, who have as a group made a noteworthy contribution to the Kingdom. The name of the tavern has long been in use in Lochac without objection.

Notes from kingdom

Commentary in-kingdom was mixed as to the name phrase "Salty Bint" being considered offensive, and if it falls afoul of SENA PN.5.C. It was felt that it was less offensive as a household name.


2: Constanza Sancha De Monroy - New Name & New Device

Per pale argent and azure, in pale a fox's mask conjoined to a tree blasted counterchanged.

Language (Spanish) most important.

Constanza
Constanza De La Cruz, female, married 1576, Granada, Spain. Batch no. M79100-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFKN-4PJ)

Sancha
Sancha De Gusman Y Mendoza, female, married 1599, Granada, Spain. Batch no. M79101-3 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFKK-RXY

De Monroy
Isabel De Monroy, female, married 1573, Valladolid, Spain. Batch no. M87149-7 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FF8S-TSN)

SENA Appendix A notes that Castilian names could have double given names, and the locative uses "de X," and all elements are dated to within 26 years of one another.

Device notes from Kingdom

The blazon was changed form "Per pale argent and azure, in pale a fox head cabossed and a tree blasted counterchanged" to "Per pale argent and azure, in pale a fox's mask conjoined to a tree blasted counterchanged".

Daniel the Broc at 2017-06-26 12:53:36
I think I'd personally feel a bit better if the tree was a bit smaller and gave clear separation between the two, or if the mask was a bit larger and didn't look like it was very gently nibbling on just the one top branch.

The mask just feels smaller than the tree to be clearly co-primary to me. It's probably acceptable as is though and I see no conflicts.

Eleyne de Comnocke at 2017-06-26 22:47:54
The tree crosses the per fess line and the head does not which suggests the tree is primary and the head a sustained secondary. The head is on the big side for that interpretation though.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-07-25/23-36-42_Martín_Cortés_de_Monroy_(1455_-_1527)_-_Genealogy.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-07-25/23-36-43_The_Genealogy_of_MexicoThe_Genealogy_of_Hernando_Cortes_1.jpg


3: Eleanor d'Arcy - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in June of 2016, via Lochac.

Per pale wavy gules and azure, on a plate a dragon dormant sable.

This device was withdrawn from the last LOI and is now resubmitted with a correction to the shape of the picture.

Notes for returned submission LOAR February 2017

Eleanor d'Arcy. Device. Argent, a bend sinister gules between a feather fesswise and a dragon dormant sable.

This device is returned for multiple conflicts. It conflicts with the device of Wion Neilson: Argent, a bend sinister gules between a lion and a cross potent sable. There is only one DC for changing the types of the charges around the bend sinister.

It also conflicts with the device of Delia Weaver: Argent, a bend sinister gules between a spider inverted and a spiderweb sable. Again, there is only one DC for changing the types of the charges around the bend sinister.

On resubmission, please ensure that the dragon is identifiable. Some commenters had trouble recognizing the charge in the current posture.

Comments from kingdom

Iago ab Adam at 2017-05-24 18:13:45
This dragon is much more clearly identifiable than the one on the previous submission (which can be seen here: https://oscar.sca.org/kingdom/kingsingleitem.php?kingdom=18&id=69827 ).

Iago ab Adam at 2017-05-24 23:17:46
No conflicts found.

Gabriella Borromei (Aquarius) at 2017-06-06 06:27:16
It was suggested originally that the wavy may not be identifable enough, client is happy to portray with more undulation if necessary.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-06 14:39:04
I concur with Lady Eleyne (below): The line is identifiable.

Eleyne de Comnocke at 2017-06-05 07:26:30
A complex line on a low contrast field with an overlying charge can be cause for return. In this case I feel the line remains identifiable.

I found no conflict

Notes from first time at Laurel

Etienne Le Mons (Sea Stag) at 2017-06-26 18:05:50
A complex, low-contrast line of division with a large central primary leaves the line of division hard to identify and is a cause for return.

Nicholas de Estleche dictus le Tardif (Coteswold) at 2017-06-28 06:03:00
I didn't have any problem identifying this particular field division.


4: Elena Sophia di Luciano dei Medici - New Name & New Device

Per fess enarched Or and sable, three torteaux and a serpent nowed in a quatrefoil knot vorant of its own tail Or.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language (Italian) most important.

Consulting herald Sigrith Vigdisardaater

Elena Found in "Names from Sixteenth Century Venice" by Juliana de Luna. https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html

Sophia Found in "Names from an Early 16th C Census of Rome" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael. http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/leofemfreq.html

Also found in FamilySearch historical records:
Anthonina Sophia Fornaguera, Female, 17 Feb 1558, SAN MARTIN, ARENYS DE MUNT, BARCELONA, SPAIN, C89272-1

di Luciano Patronymic derived from the masculine Italian name "Luciano", found in "Italian Men's Names from Genoa, 1376" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/genoa.html

Also found in "Italian Names from Florance, 1427" by Ferrante LaVolpe. https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ferrante/catasto/

dei Medici Found in the Academy of St Gabriel report #3230. http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/3230.txt

Webpages up loaded as packets.

Name notes from Kingdom

Maridonna Benvenuti at 2017-06-25 11:23:25
The docs check out. The St. Gabriel report says about dei Medici, "The standard form of this family name is <dei Medici>, and it is often abbreviated <de' Medici> [2], so this is a fine choice." [2] "The Medici Archive Project" (WWW: Medici.org, 2005). I did not include the urls from the report.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-25 19:22:53
SENA Appendix A authorizes both double given names and double bynames in Italian.

Device Notes from Kingdom

No conflict found


5: Eyia Litlaskolli - New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Per fess azure and argent, two foxes statant counter-statant guardant counterchanged

The name submitted with this device was returned at Kingdom.

Notes from Kingdom

The blazon was changed from "Per fess azure and argent, two foxes statant guardant counter changed." to "Per fess azure and argent, two foxes statant counter-statant guardant counterchanged".

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-25 19:43:53
And in case anyone is concerned, I refer my fellow commenters to http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2001/08/01-08cl.html, "From Wreath Queen of Arms: WHERE HAVE ALL THE DETAILS GONE?" where we are told, "not all period heraldic art has internal details, and such silhouette depictions are acceptable in the SCA as long as identifiability is preserved." I find these depictions wholly identifiable (and am pleased that they do show eyes).

Daniel the Broc at 2017-06-26 13:54:09
Agree with the reblazon, and no conflicts seen.

Correction to Device (2017-Jul-28 08:07:40): It is my understanding that this device needs to be withdrawn / returned due to the submitted name being returned at Kingdom level.


6: Fionnabhair inghean ui Mheadhra - New Badge Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2004, via Lochac.

Purpure, two sea-unicorns respectant argent each charged with an ermine spot sable.

Old Item: Purpure, two sea-horses addorsed argent, each charged with an ermine spot sable, to be retained as a badge.

Notes from kingdom

Tha blazon was changed from "Purpure, two sea-unicorns combatant argent each charged with an ermine spot sable." to "Purpure, two sea-unicorns respectant argent each charged with an ermine spot sable".

Daniel the Broc at 2017-06-26 14:02:18
I think the ermine spot is a bit large and might be verging on touching the field.

But i see no conflicts, closest being the badge that they are retaining as a badge.


7: Gaius Quintilius Antoninus - New Name & New Device

Gules, on a double headed eagle between three roundels Or, a skull sable.

Consulting herald Padraig Lowther

Gaius Male praenomen, found in "A Simple Guide to Imperial Roman Names" by Ursula Georges at http://heraldry.sca.org/names/roman.html

Quintilius The Epigraphic Database Heidelberg has: (http://edh-www.adw.uni-heidelberg.de/edh/inschrift/HD021266) "M(arcus) Quintilius Ortphus(!) fec(it)," Ostia, Italy. Trismegistos dates the find to ca. 140-160 CE. (http://www.trismegistos.org/text/249868)

Antoninus Male cognomen, found in "A Simple Guide to Imperial Roman Names" as above.

Name notes from Kingdom

Ursula Georges (Palimpsest) at 2017-06-27 12:59:29
Construction looks good.

Device Notes from Kingdom

Daniel the Broc at 2017-06-26 14:53:05
I see no conflicts. Clear of the Emporer of Constantinople "Gules, a double-headed eagle Or." with dcs for adding secondary and tertiaries.

And yay! the skull's eye sockets aren't showing through to the eagle behind it


8: Hextilda atte Wille - New Name & New Device

Or, three foxes tails couped, tips to base, proper

Consulting herald ffride wlffsdotter

Hextilda Black p. 358 sn. Hextildespethe "Hextilda, wife of Richard Cumyn, witnessed her husband's grant of the church of Lyntunruderic to Kelso Abbey c. 1160."

atte Wille R&W sn. Attwell Richard atte Wille 1333 `Dweller by the stream or spring'

Name notes from kingdom

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-07-18 21:21:19
I don't believe there are any conflicts. I felicitate submitter on increasing our supply of <Hextilda>s by at least a quarter.

Device notes from kingdom

Blazon changed from "Or, three foxes tails couped, tips to base gules." to "Or, three foxes tails couped, tips to base, proper ".


9: Katherine Stewart - New Name & New Device

Purpure, on a bend argent four roses purpure.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.

Consulting herald Sigrith Vigdisardaater

Katherine - FamilySearch Historical Records:
Katherine Trewman, Female, 30 May 1572, EXHALL NEAR COVENTRY,WARWICK,ENGLAND, C04201-2
Katherine Tucker, Female, 30 Jul 1586, NONINGTON,KENT,ENGLAND, P01295-1
Katherine Cole, Female, 06 Feb 1578, SAINT MARTIN,CHICHESTER,SUSSEX,ENGLAND, C04043-1

Stewart - FamilySearch Historical Records:
Jane Stewart, Female, 09 Jul 1598, ALLHALLOWS LONDON WALL,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND, P00085-1
Fraunces Stewart, Male, 28 Dec 1583, SAINT LEONARD,COLCHESTER,ESSEX,ENGLAND, C15175-1
Thomas Stewart, Male, 13 Dec 1572, KIRKHAM,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND, P00536-1

Name notes from kingdom
Karl Faustus von Aachen at 2017-06-26 20:21:25 If this name AND device don't get their very own "Nice"s on the LoAR, I will be very surprised indeed.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-07-18 22:28:42
I do not believe any one of the <(K/C)ath(a/e/0)rine St(u/ew)art>s found by a Net search, no matter how good an author, journalist, actor, physician, dentist, lawyer, athlete, etc., she is, rises to the fame required to be protected under http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#PN4D1.

Whether there is a problem against Catarina de Bragança, queen of England as wife of King Charles II and twice regent of Portugal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Braganza and https://www.britannica.com/biography/Catherine-of-Braganza) is less certain. I can find only Wikipedia and genealogists, as opposed to historians, who call her <Catherine Stuart>--rather as though that had to be her name as a married woman on some anachronistic driver's license--and even those seem invariably to mention <Bragança/Braganza> in the same breath, e.g., "Catherine Stuart (born Braganza)" at https://www.myheritage.com/names/catherine_braganza.

Tentatively assuming a clearly conflicting name for the person, does her couple or three years acting as regent for her brother, King Pedro II, place her among the "sovereign rulers of significant states [who] are generally important enough to protect"? And in this case does "generally" allow ignoring her? Does it matter whether anyone calls her <Catherine Stuart> in reference to that tenure?

Her English-language Wikipedia article is quite long, but it may be diagnostic that her popularizing tea-drinking in England figures so prominently among her legacies to history. The Britannica online article is a mere 3 paragraphs--and it nowhere calls her <Catherine Stuart>. Neither does the rather long https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catarina_de_Bragan%C3%A7a, though it lists her "Casa" 'House' as "Stuart (por casamento)" 'by marriage'. (It claims she left England orange jelly (marmalade?), cutlery, and tobacco, as well as tea drinking.)

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-07-18 22:31:00 No conflict against the O&A--all three gentles of approximately the same name have chosen to use one or two middle names.

Device notes from kingdom

Blazon changed from "Purpure, on a bend argent four roses purpure barbed and seeded proper." to "Purpure, on a bend argent four roses purpure".

Marie Chantal Delaire (Gerfalcon) at 2017-06-25 10:16:39
Nice design. Kudos to the client.

Daniel the Broc at 2017-06-26 12:40:42
More importantly though, I see no conflicts.


10: Rhianna of Politarchopolis - New Name & New Device

Argent, on a bend sable three cinquefoils pierced palewise argent, in dexter chief a Maltese cross gules

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Consulting herald Amelot de Akeney

Rhianna is the legal name of the submitter. Documents are included.

of Politarchopolis Politarchopolis is a Barony in Lochac registered in January 1996 via the West.

Name notes from kingdom

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-07-18 22:36:19
I do not believe there are any conflicts.

Device notes from kingdom

Blazon changed from "Argent, on a bend sable three blackthorn flowers argent, a maltese cross gules" to "Argent, on a bend sable three cinquefoils pierced palewise argent, in dexter chief a Maltese cross gules".


11: Róisín Locha Éirne - New Name

Language (Irish) most important.
Culture (Irish) most important.

Consulting herald Gabriella Borromei

Róisín is the submitters legal name, documentation attached.

Locha Éirne is being submitted based on the rules for locative bynames as published in SENA appendix B section B.

Lough Erne in Irish is Loch Éirne, and the genitive of "Loch" is "Locha", so Roisín Locha Éirne means Roisín of Loch Erne, literally "Loch Erne's Roisín".

https://www.britannica.com/place/Lough-Erne
https://www.britannica.com/place/Fermanagh

Early Celtic Christian antiquities abound, particularly on the islands in the loughs. Devenish Island, in Lower Lough Erne, is the site of an ancient monastery that has a round tower 81 feet (25 metres) high and a standing cross. During the reign of James I (1603-25), king of Great Britain and Ireland, many English Anglicans were settled here as part of the Plantation of Ulster scheme. At Newtownbutler (now

Notes from kingdom

Brían dorcha ua Conaill (Ex-Rocket) at 2017-06-25 21:54:57
In the Annals, <Eirne> has 80 hits, <Éirne> has 11. That includes references to the river. Restricting to the Loch alone is 34 and 4.

Those eleven references are

FM1342.14 Loch Éirne
FM1371.8 Loch Éirne
FM1468.21 Éirne [river]
U1518.1 Loch Éirne
FM1527.10 officél Locha h-Éirne
FM1561.9 Éirne [river]
FM1586.4 Éirne [river]
FM1595.17 Éirne [river]
FM1595.27 Éirne [river]
FM1597.14 Éirne [river]
FM1597.32 Éirne [river]

<Locha Éirne> is the correct genitive, and the submitted name is correctly constructed.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-07-26/06-29-38_Fermanagh___district,_Northern_Ireland,_United_Kingdom___Britannica.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-07-26/06-29-40_Lough_Erne___lake,_Northern_Ireland,_United_Kingdom___Britannica.jpg


12: Salbiǫrg vís - New Name & New Device

Gules, an owl contourny argent perched upon a key fesswise Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Language (10th Century Norse) most important.
Culture (10th Century Norse) most important.

Consulting herald Padraig Lowther

Salbiǫrg Norse feminine given name, found in Viking Names found in Landnámabók by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html

viss Norse byname, found in Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html

Name notes from kingdom

The name had a minor change from "Salbiǫrg viss" to "Salbiǫrg vís".

Gunnvor silfraharr (Orle) at 2017-06-25 17:06:45
This particular byname is found in four forms:

Weak Masculine Adjective: <inn vísi>
Weak Feminine Adjective: <inn vísa>
Strong Masculine Adjective: <víss>
Strong Feminine Adjective: <vís>

Here the byname should be the feminine strong adjective <vís>, please note the i-acute.

Consulting herald Padraig Lowther

Device notes from kingdom

Blazon changed from "Gules, an owl close contourney argent perched upon a key Or." to "Gules, an owl contourny argent perched upon a key fesswise Or".

No conflicts found.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-07-26/06-36-53_Viking_Bynames_found_in_the_Landnamabok1.jpg
#2 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-07-26/06-36-53_Viking_Bynames_found_in_the_Landnamabok_2.jpg
#3 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-07-26/06-36-54_Viking_Names_found_in_Landnamabok_1.jpg
#4 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-07-26/06-36-54_Viking_Names_found_in_Landnamabok_2.jpg


13: Titus Flavius Marcellus - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Lochac LoI of May 25, 2017 as submitted.

Gules, two lightning bolts in saltire argent, overall an eagle, a bordure Or

Consulting herald Adeliz Fergusson

Notes from kingdom

Blazon changed from "Gules, overall of two lightning bolts in saltire argent, an eagle displayed and a bordure Or." to "Gules, two lightning bolts in saltire argent, overall an eagle, a bordure Or.".

Marie Chantal Delaire (Gerfalcon) at 2017-06-25 10:17:44
There is a step from period practice for the use of the lightening bolts without the thunderbolt.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-25 22:06:37
Bolts and eagle could all be beefier as befits primary and overall charges.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2017-06-26 06:58:24
Agree that the bolts and eagle need to be beefed up. I believe that the eagle is not overall since it doesn't reach the bordure. The eagle is surmounting the bolts.

Daniel the Broc at 2017-06-26 15:43:01
Agreed. For primary charges, those bolts are tiny. They're not even as wide as the bordure is, and look like they would fit very comfortably on that as a tertiary, and they all but dissapear on the colour-corrected form.

I see no conflicts. Clear of Decimus Marius Tacitus "Gules, two lightning bolts in saltire argent and overall a wolf's head erased Or." with DC for change of overall type and addition of the bordure.

Etienne Le Mons (Sea Stag) at 2017-06-26 19:48:06
How does this compare to: Josué Ezequiel Xavier de Navarra
The following device associated with this name was registered in March of 1995 (via the West): Azure, a thunderbolt and a bordure Or.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-26 20:29:16
I think we need to treat the thunderbolt as a unitary charge, not as two (comparatively anemic) lightning bolts in saltire argent and overall a winged pillar (nearly always) enflamed. Neither the Mistholme model nor the several thunderbolts submitted in the OSCAR era conduce to that interpretation. However, even accepting such a reblazon for Josué, there should be at least a DC for tincture and another for a different type of charge overall against this submission.

Nevertheless, I've requested Josué's original emblazon (as any of us may) from our excellent College archivist@heraldry.sca.org. It's conceivable his lightning is unblazoned argent.

In any case, it does make one more reason for submitter to beef up the emblazon.

Etienne Le Mons (Sea Stag) at 2017-06-26 20:50:23
For style purposes, I agree that we should treat the thunderbolt as a unitary charge. For conflict purposes, I think we need to treat it in as many ways as we can. DC for tincture of the lightning bolts and the field and type of the overall.

Gunther Boese (Rocket) at 2017-06-27 02:27:56
I would urge a redraw of this device. The lightening bolts need to be bigger at the very least. As it currently stands it would likely be returned.

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=948/2017-07-26/07-34-20_T-22-56-04_Josue_Ezquiel_Zavier_de_Navarre_device_1995.jpg


14: Titus Quintilius Calidus - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name on the Lochac LoI of November 30, 2016 as submitted.

Purpure, a pale Or between two demi roundels flats to centre argent, on a bordure Or a orle purpure.

Consulting herald Padraig Lowther

Notes from kingdom

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-25 22:15:26
Submitter's present arms are registered as Vert, a pale between two demi-roundels flats to center and on a bordure argent an orle sable. Two decades and more ago Laurel three times registered to centre for various non-SCA arms, and there was one for a gentle in 1988, but center is more common in the O&A by more than a hundred to one. So blazon, with additional tweaks:

Purpure, a pale Or between two demi-roundels flats to center argent and on a bordure Or an orle purpure

Daniel the Broc at 2017-06-26 15:38:01
"Centre" is a perfectly accepted way to spell the word for people in Canada, likely owing to French/Québécois influence. To be honest, I'm somewhat surprised it's not more widespread in our psuedo Anglo-Norman French heraldese. But I digress.

I see nothing particularly close. It's also good on complexity, despite me wantign to count it out a few times at 7 "Argent, Or, Purpure, Pale, demi-roundel, bordure, orle."

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-26 18:49:25
Actually, Merriam-Webster says "centre" is a "chiefly British spelling", meaning the whole old Commonwealth. The OED shows the etymology as partly "Anglo-Norman and Middle French centre (French centre)" and partly "classical Latin centrum". In the Forms section it lists "center" from 15th c. on and marks it "now chiefly U.S.".

Note that I haven't and don't claim anything about correctness, but merely note prevalence. Including submitter's previous registration.


My thanks to all those who commented on the Kingdom letter.

In service to the Crown of Lochac

Gunther Rocket


OSCAR counts 8 New Names, 1 New Household Name, 9 New Devices, 1 New Badge and 1 New Badge Change. These 20 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $80 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Device. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 21 items submitted on this letter.

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