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Northshield ILoI dated 2017-05-30

Greetings unto Honourable Lady Merideth NiShionniach, Polaris Herald, the Heralds of Northshield, and our brethren from other kingdoms. Herein please find the Northshield May Internal Letter. Comments are due by June 26, 2017.

1: Decimus Marius Tacitus -Resub Household Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in December of 2014, via Northshield.

Domus Lupi

No major changes.
Language (Latin) most important.
Culture (Roman) most important.

Submission History: Previous submission of <Domus Lupi> was returned on the September 2016 LOAR due to conflict with the heraldic title <Lupine Herald>, currently registered to Andreas of Green Village in February of 2014 (via Calontir). A permission to conflict with that name is included with this submission, as noted on the LOAR.

This household name is a Latinized form of an English sign name meaning House of the Wolf. An example of a fully Latinized inn-sign name was signum Ursi (at the sign of the bear), found in the raw data for Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada, "English Sign Names: Raw Data", p 9 (http://www.medievalscotland.org/kmo/inn/raw.shtml).

Romans had named inns with inn-signs, as documented by W. C. Firebaugh in "The Inns of Greece & Rome, and a History of Hospitality from the Dawn of Time to the Middle Ages", Chicago: Pascal Covici; 1928; pp. 157-171 (http://www.elfinspell.com/ClassicalTexts/Firebaugh-TheInnsOfGreeceAndRome/Chapter11.html).

Domus appears in "Harper Collins Latin Concise Dictionary" p 71, s.n. domus with the meaning "house (esp in town)". Domus has been registered as a household designator in the 02-2011 LOAR for "Domus Pugni Argentei" https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=15506 and in the 09-2013 LOAR for "Domus Millarii" https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=32278

Lupi is the genitive singular case for wolf in Latin, per https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lupi#Latin

Household Name Comments:

Iohannes Glenfidanus (Isundun) at 2017-05-31 18:24:46
No conflicts noted. Closest is Lupine Herald as already noted.

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2017-06-08 17:00:52
Given the LoPtC, I don't find any conflict.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-21 16:37:15
How is the LoPtC being presented? "As noted on the LoAR" seems incorrect.

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2017-06-21 16:21:36
Looks good.


2: Eva of Greenfield -New Alternate Name

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2008, via Northshield.

Milie Fiore

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound (Sounds like millie fee-oh-ray) most important.

Milie is found as a Latin name from Naples, Italy dated to 1522/1532 in DMES under Milia (http://dmnes.org/cite/Milie/1522x1532/DSF)

Fiore is an unmaked patronym listed as a male name from Florence, 1427, in "Italian Names Florance, 1427" (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ferrante/catasto/)

Alternate Name Comments:

Maridonna Benvenuti at 2017-05-30 20:09:42
This is very close to the glass making style Millefiori meaning 'thousand flowers'.
BR>The name in the DMNES documentation is Milia, the nominative and documented to 1522-1532. Milie is the genitive.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-02 18:52:55
So can send up

<Milia Fiore>

if we believe our Sovereigns will not consider that a major change. Prudence as well as courtesy suggest that we get submitter's permission so that a ruling will not be necessary.

Mira Fastova (Keythong) at 2017-06-24 19:26:45
Submitter has been contacted and agreed to a change from <Milie> to <Milia>.

Iohannes Glenfidanus (Isundun) at 2017-05-31 18:25:31
No conflicts noted

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2017-06-08 17:04:50
I don't think this is Obtrusively Modern; just a joke name like Drew Steele or Mould de Cheder

I didn't find any conflict.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire at 2017-06-08 18:25:48
Concur on both points. But <Gemma Stone> is a better partner for this one.

Basil Dragonstrike (Lions Heart) at 2017-06-11 16:06:14
I took my examples from SENA. ;-)

Gawain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor) at 2017-06-21 16:22:27
Millefiori was also the first thing I thought of when I read the name.

Maridonna Benvenuti at 2017-06-23 05:28:39
Me too, but it didn't bother me.

Maridonna Benvenuti at 2017-06-25 05:24:47
Looking at the SCA name articles and the MNA, Milia is found in elsewhere in Pisa and Florence. I wouldn't be surprised if Milia is a hypocorism of Emilia.


Thus ends the May Internal Letter for Northshield.

In service to Northshield & the College of Arms

Mistress Mira Fastova

Keythong Herald


OSCAR counts 1 Alternate Name and 1 Household Name. There are a total of 2 items submitted on this letter.

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