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Palimpsest Rules Letter dated 2017-02-19

To Andrewe Laurel, Alys Pelican, Brunissende Wreath, and the heralds of the College of Arms. After most heartly commendations.

The May 2013 Cover Letter included the following message from Pelican:

Company as Order Name Designator

In period, company and its cognates was used to refer to a variety of kinds of groups of people, including military groups, guilds, and knightly orders.

Under the Rules for Submissions and SENA, company was limited to household names and not allowed as a designator for order names. However, commenters agreed that we should follow period practice and allow company and other similar words to be used as a designator for any suitable non-personal name.

This of course does not remove the requirement that a designator be documented as appropriate to the type of non-personal name submitted. It simply allows designators to be used for multiple types of non-personal names.

We are therefore directing Palimpsest to develop new wording for the relevant sections of SENA.

This Rules Letter changes multiple portions of SENA, together with Appendix E, in order to comply with Pelican's request.

This item was on the 05-2017 LoAR

1: Change to SENA Appendix E - New Rule Change

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

This rule change adds Company as an order name designator to Appendix E, and expands the lists of designators in different languages.

Current Wording:

B. Award and Order Names: The appropriate English and lingua Anglica forms for order names are Award and Order. Terms like Company, Companions, and Defenders are not registerable as designators for orders and awards. Company is allowed as the designator for household and association names. Companions can be used to describe the members of an order, but such terms were not used in order names, and will not be registered. Defenders may be used in the substantive element of an order, but may not be registered as a designator.

Order has been found in attested forms in many languages:

Orden Spanish

Ordre French

Geselschaft, orden German

Geselsscaf, Geselschap Low German

Ordo Latin

Ordine Italian

There are other terms used for knightly orders in period. Many of them use words that refer to knighthood; these are not registerable, because they are considered a claim that the members are peers.

Proposed Wording:

B. Award and Order Names: The appropriate English and lingua Anglica forms for order names are Award and Order. The designator Company and its translations may be used for both orders and household names.

The terms Companions and Defenders are not registerable as designators for orders and awards. Companions can be used to describe the members of an order, but such terms were not used in order names, and will not be registered. Defenders may be used in the substantive element of an order, but may not be registered as a designator.

Order has been found in attested forms in many languages:

Order, Ordre, Ordoure (English)

Orden (Spanish)

Ordre (French)

Orden (German)

Ordo (Latin)

Ordine (Italian)

In some languages, words meaning 'Society' are also used for orders:

Geselschaft (German)

Geselsscaf, Geselschap (Low German)

Societas (Latin)

There are other terms used for knightly orders in period. Many of them use words that refer to knighthood; these are not registerable, because they are considered a claim that the members are peers.


This item was on the 05-2017 LoAR

2: Change to SENA NPN.1.B.2. Order and Award Designators - New Rule Change

OSCAR is unable to find the name (Change to SENA NPN.1.B.2. Order) , either registered or submitted.
OSCAR is unable to find the name (Award Designators) , either registered or submitted.

This item changes the rule on designators for orders so that the examples of unregisterable designators are consistent with current precedent.

Current Wording

NPN.1.B.2. Order and Award Designators: The designators for order names must follow a documented pattern for medieval order names. The standard designators are Order and Award. Any pattern suitable for one such designator is suitable for the other. These designators may take the lingua Anglica form, using the forms above regardless of the language of the substantive phrase. Alternately, they may take the language of the substantive element. A list of some translations of these designators is listed in Appendix E. In general, designators which are used for household and association names cannot be used for orders and awards.

For example, either Order of the Levrier or Ordre du Levrier is registerable for the meaning 'order of the hound', but Order du Levrier and Ordre of the Levrier are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.

For example, Order of the Levrier is registerable as an order name, but not as a household name. Similarly, Company of the Levrier is registerable as a household name, but not as an award or order name.

Proposed Wording

NPN.1.B.2. Order and Award Designators: The designators for order names must follow a documented pattern for medieval order names. The standard designators are Order and Award. Any pattern suitable for one such designator is suitable for the other. These designators may take the lingua Anglica form, using the forms above regardless of the language of the substantive phrase. Alternately, they may take the language of the substantive element. A list of some translations of these designators is listed in Appendix E. Documenting a designator for an order name does not show it is appropriate for household names, and documenting a designator for household names does not show it is appropriate for orders.

For example, either Order of the Levrier or Ordre du Levrier is registerable for the meaning 'order of the hound', but Order du Levrier and Ordre of the Levrier are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.

For example, Order of the Levrier is registerable as an order name, but not as a household name. On the other hand, Galeón San Pedro y San Philippe is registerable as a household name (for a group of sailors), but not as an order name.


This item was on the 05-2017 LoAR

3: Change to SENA NPN.1.B.3. Household and Association Names - New Rule Change

OSCAR is unable to find the name (Change to SENA NPN.1.B.3. Household) , either registered or submitted.
OSCAR is unable to find the name (Association Names) , either registered or submitted.

This item changes the rule on style of household names to allow for the fact that Company is registerable for orders or for households.

Current Wording:

NPN.1.B.3. Household and Association Names: The designators for household names must be documented as a form describing a group of people in a particular culture. It must be compatible with the substantive element in terms of content and style. There is no standard designator which is considered compatible with all types of names for groups of people.

Several kinds of groups of people have served as models for household names. They include a noble household, a military unit, a guild, a group of people associated with an inn or tenement house, a university or school (noting that the word college is reserved for branches), clans, and an organized group of musicians or actors. Designators may be registered in the original language or may take the lingua Anglica form. Suitable substantive elements (like simple descriptions) may take the lingua Anglica form as well. In general, designators which are used within the SCA for orders and awards cannot be used for household and association names, even if they were so used in period.

For example, either Compagnia di Santa Lucia or Company of Santa Lucia is registerable for the meaning 'company of Saint Lucia', but Company di Santa Lucia and Compagnia of Santa Lucia are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.

For example, Compagnia di Santa Lucia is registerable as a household name, but not as an order name. Similarly, Order of Santa Lucia is registerable as an award or order name, but not a household name.

Proposed Wording:

NPN.1.B.3. Household and Association Names: The designators for household names must be documented as a form describing a group of people in a particular culture. It must be compatible with the substantive element in terms of content and style. There is no standard designator which is considered compatible with all types of names for groups of people.

Several kinds of groups of people have served as models for household names. They include a noble household, a military unit, a guild, a group of people associated with an inn or tenement house, a university or school (noting that the word college is reserved for branches), clans, and an organized group of musicians or actors. Designators may be registered in the original language or may take the lingua Anglica form. Suitable substantive elements (like simple descriptions) may take the lingua Anglica form as well. Documenting a designator for an order name does not show it is appropriate for household names, and documenting a designator for household names does not show it is appropriate for orders.

For example, either Compagnia di Santa Lucia or Company of Santa Lucia is registerable for the meaning 'company of Saint Lucia', but Company di Santa Lucia and Compagnia of Santa Lucia are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.

For example, Galeón San Pedro y San Philippe is registerable as a household name (for a group of sailors), but not as an order name. On the other hand, Order of San Philippe is registerable as an award or order name, but not a household name.


Written in the Barony of Cynnabar on the feast of Saint Valerius in the year of grace mmxvii.

Ursula Georges, Palimpsest Herald.


OSCAR counts 3 Rule Changes. These 3 items may or may not require payment. There are a total of 3 items submitted on this letter.

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